On Sun, Jun 29, 2003 at 11:14:38PM -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote: > > > Without going into detail on any of these specific items, I think that > > > the only work that should be undertaken between now and the release of > > > PHP 5 is cleanup and bug fixing. There's plenty of that to go around, > > > and while I realize that everyone wants to get their pet feature added > > > to or expanded in PHP 5, we need to be realistic. > > Jon, the overloading issues were left to beta 2, this was already agreed > upon.
Okay. I admit that I don't know much about that feature. > Its still a long way to a release (I'd guestimate 6-9 months). The > beta is not at this point solid from an API perspective. But since > you seem to think a lot needs fixing up - what would you like fixed > up? I could have phrased that better. I meant that, now that PHP 5 is on a release track, there's plenty of work to be done with regard to QA testing and responding to testing feedback / bug reports. If PHP 5 really is 6-9 months away than I agree with Rasmus: this beta was premature and gives the false impression that PHP 5 is nearing a final release. > What's not working for you atm? Marcus is, btw, not proposing new > features, just completing the existing feature, integrated > overloading. Everything is working well for me now, and I'd prefer to keep it that way. I'm wary of adding new features (I consider integrating SPL to be a new feature, for instance) which may upset the stability that we've just recently achieved. > There won't be truly drastic internals rewrites at this point, but we > are not 100% feature complete. Things like a modified API for > overloading, or clarifications in the type hint model are certainly > valid for consideration in the beta process. There will of course be > lots of bugfixing, but I don't think we should be overly strict at this > point. Not to be too picky (after all, I'm not directly involved in any of this code at this point, so I don't have any real authority there), but I'd really like to see a PHP project-wide release roadmap for PHP 5 than a bunch of developers posting their TODO lists. I realize that's what you're trying to generate, but it seems like whatever results will be largely emergent and de facto based on these TODO lists, with very little strategy involved. The fact that this discussion is even happening in the first place is indicative of a lack of developer unity over the issue. This is all just my opinion, of course. -- Jon Parise ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) :: The PHP Project (http://www.php.net/) -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
