Re: [PHP-DEV][DISCUSSION] Multilingual PHP

2019-05-02 Thread Er Galvao Abbott
My two cents on this, since I teach beginner courses on a regular basis: All languages - that I'm aware of - have English as their basis. As a matter of fact our industry as a whole have English as it's basis. I often tell my students: learn English. You'll eventually need it and it will provi

Re: [PHP-DEV][DISCUSSION] Multilingual PHP

2019-05-02 Thread Legale Legage
We (Russians) have got such experience already. The language is 1S where syntax is Cyrillic. This kind of syntax doesn’t like even Russian patriots. чт, 11 апр. 2019 г., 23:16 Benjamin Morel : > The problem with this approach is that while it may become more readable > for the native speaker, it

Re: [PHP-DEV][DISCUSSION] Multilingual PHP

2019-05-02 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:32 AM Michael Morris wrote: > Submitted to the floor is a Wired article from 2 days ago I came across > > > https://www.wired.com/story/coding-is-for-everyoneas-long-as-you-speak-english/ > > The manual of PHP is translated into multiple languages - but what are the > de

Re: [PHP-DEV][DISCUSSION] Multilingual PHP

2019-04-12 Thread Michael Morris
The replies so far have been excellent and I do appreciate the time given to write them. Being a lazy one-language American (I tried to learn Spanish but I've forgotten most of what I learned out of lack of use) I'm not familiar with the obstacles to learning English beyond "gittin rid my accint" w

Re: [PHP-DEV][DISCUSSION] Multilingual PHP

2019-04-11 Thread Johannes Schlüter
Hi, On Do, 2019-04-11 at 15:32 -0500, Michael Morris wrote: > Submitted to the floor is a Wired article from 2 days ago I came > across > > https://www.wired.com/story/coding-is-for-everyoneas-long-as-you-spea > k-english/ > Oh, memories. Microsoft Office has (or had) localised macros. This lea

Re: [PHP-DEV][DISCUSSION] Multilingual PHP

2019-04-11 Thread Bruce Weirdan
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 1:10 AM Derick Rethans wrote: > > My favourite annoyance is using a non breaking space in > function/method names ;-) "Better" yet, you can use characters that are different, but look the same as Latin chars e.g. CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ES (U+0441) instead of (LATIN SMALL LE

Re: [PHP-DEV][DISCUSSION] Multilingual PHP

2019-04-11 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019, Walter Parker wrote: > I also am old enough to have used/remember using BASIC. I remember German > and Japanese friends that wrote in BASIC. It was interesting to see German > programs where all the keywords were in English and all the text was in > German. The Japanese was ev

Re: [PHP-DEV][DISCUSSION] Multilingual PHP

2019-04-11 Thread Walter Parker
I also am old enough to have used/remember using BASIC. I remember German and Japanese friends that wrote in BASIC. It was interesting to see German programs where all the keywords were in English and all the text was in German. The Japanese was even more strange as the system had to switch between

Re: [PHP-DEV][DISCUSSION] Multilingual PHP

2019-04-11 Thread Bruce Weirdan
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:17 AM Benjamin Morel wrote: > This may be harder for people having a native language with a different > alphabet, though. > That's unlikely to be a problem. Even to get to the PHP manual you have to type `www.php.net` (or `google.com` if you want to google something),

Re: [PHP-DEV][DISCUSSION] Multilingual PHP

2019-04-11 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > I'll stop there cause I know there are problems I haven't thought of. And > I'm not going to argue the syntax I just kicked out from the top of my head > is the best either. For better or for worse, English is the lingua franca of the internet technology. You can, of course, create a compil

Re: [PHP-DEV][DISCUSSION] Multilingual PHP

2019-04-11 Thread Benjamin Morel
The problem with this approach is that while it may become more readable for the native speaker, it becomes pretty much impossible to read for the rest of the world. Having one single syntax for everyone allows all programmers in the world to share code. I can't imagine a world where I'd find a lib