Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-18 Thread Uwe Schindler
Due to a lot of emails and bug reports from SunONE webserver users, the apache2 multithreading message should also be marked as important for *ALL* multithreaded webservers. With some modifications it could be used for all multithreaded environments not only Apache2. We could link this faq messa

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-17 Thread Lester Caine
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Lester Caine wrote: Are we actually looking at development time? Perhaps we just need to run test on the alternative platform(s) I have two machines running W2k/A2/PHP5RC3/Firebird1.5 which are serving up demos, and I've yet to see an error. The SUSE9.1 ma

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-17 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Lester Caine wrote: > Are we actually looking at development time? > Perhaps we just need to run test on the alternative platform(s) > I have two machines running W2k/A2/PHP5RC3/Firebird1.5 which are serving > up demos, and I've yet to see an error. The SUSE9.1 machine is on th

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-17 Thread Lester Caine
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Marc Richards wrote: Going form Apache1 to Apache2, aside form filters (which you mentioned in bug 27583) there is the default inclusion of mod_ssl and mod_ldap, better Internationalization features, mod_perl 2.0 (which ONLY works with Apache2), Subversion

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-16 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Marc Richards wrote: > Going form Apache1 to Apache2, aside form filters (which you mentioned > in bug 27583) there is the default inclusion of mod_ssl and mod_ldap, > better Internationalization features, mod_perl 2.0 (which ONLY works > with Apache2), Subversion via WebDAV, a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-16 Thread Marc Richards
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: [snip] The problem here is not as simple as people like to make it sound. Time and time again I see the /. mentality where people berate PHP developers for being stupid and stubborn for not just "fixing PHP" so it is stable and robust with Apache2. I have explained this a num

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-16 Thread Lester Caine
Jan Lehnardt wrote: I have seem this questions been asked many times in a few mail list. Someone should post this reply into a FAQ page or the Manual in www.php.net I am about to commit this to the installation chapter of the manual. Looking forward to it :) -- Lester Caine

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-16 Thread Jan Lehnardt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 16 Jun 2004, at 11:35, Joseph Lee wrote: I have seem this questions been asked many times in a few mail list. Someone should post this reply into a FAQ page or the Manual in www.php.net I am about to commit this to the installation chapter of the

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-16 Thread Joseph Lee
e 16, 2004 6:57 AM To: Lester Caine Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2 On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Lester Caine wrote: > Lester Caine wrote: > > What I should have added is:- > > What are the problem modules? :) Ah, you see, if we knew that we would just fix th

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-16 Thread Jakub Vrana
Lester Caine wrote: > The only difficulty is > " Do not use Apache 2.0 and PHP in a production environment neither on > Unix nor on Windows." > in the manual tells my customers that I should not be! There is also good Rasmus' explanation at http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=27583 Jakub Vrana -- PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-16 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Curt Zirzow wrote: > * Thus wrote Christian Schneider ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Lester Caine wrote: > > >Well is it approved for use with Apache2? > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that the PHP core is > > approved with Apache2 in threaded mode. > > If my

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-15 Thread Lester Caine
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Lester Caine wrote: Lester Caine wrote: What I should have added is:- What are the problem modules? :) Ah, you see, if we knew that we would just fix them and be done with it. [SNIP] sticking with Apache1 for serving up PHP pages with the one caveat that A

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-15 Thread Thomas Goyne
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:56:44 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time), Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Lester Caine wrote: Lester Caine wrote: What I should have added is:- What are the problem modules? :) [snip] Perhaps this should be put into the docs rather than the curren

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-15 Thread Pan qingfeng
For example, usleep() is not thread-safe on Solaris, and I can grep this function call from the source codes( I don't make a deep look, it may be my misunderstand...), but that explain how hard the review jobs are. "Lester Caine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Lester Caine wrote

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-15 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Rasmus Lerdorf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Lester Caine wrote: > > Lester Caine wrote: > > > > What I should have added is:- > > > > What are the problem modules? :) > > Ah, you see, if we knew that we would just fix them and be done with it. Thanks rasmus for rewriti

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-15 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Lester Caine wrote: > Lester Caine wrote: > > What I should have added is:- > > What are the problem modules? :) Ah, you see, if we knew that we would just fix them and be done with it. The problem here is not as simple as people like to make it sound. Time and time again I

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-15 Thread Lester Caine
Lester Caine wrote: What I should have added is:- What are the problem modules? :) -- Lester Caine - L.S.Caine Electronic Services -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-15 Thread Lester Caine
Christian Schneider wrote: Lester Caine wrote: Well is it approved for use with Apache2? Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that the PHP core is approved with Apache2 in threaded mode. If you use non-threadsafe modules you have to use Apache 2 in --mpm=prefork mode and then it's appr

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-15 Thread Pan qingfeng
Yes, it's right, there is no problem if Apache2 in prefork MPM mode, but I will prefer Apache1 if I don't need a thread-enable Web server... "Christian Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Lester Caine wrote: > > Well is it approved for use with Apache2? > > Correct me if

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-15 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Christian Schneider ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Lester Caine wrote: > >Well is it approved for use with Apache2? > > Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that the PHP core is > approved with Apache2 in threaded mode. If my memory serves my right, I dont think that all extesion

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP and Apache2

2004-06-15 Thread Christian Schneider
Lester Caine wrote: Well is it approved for use with Apache2? Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that the PHP core is approved with Apache2 in threaded mode. If you use non-threadsafe modules you have to use Apache 2 in --mpm=prefork mode and then it's approved too. We've been usin