RE: [PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll

2015-03-15 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mar 16, 2015 8:41 AM, "Zeev Suraski" wrote: > > Stelian, > > Respectfully, I think internals@ is being just a bit too uptight here. > First, I did ask Bob before doing this, and while he said he thought it > wasn't a good idea (mostly because of feedback such as yours) - he didn't > 'block' me.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll

2015-03-15 Thread Lester Caine
On 15/03/15 21:32, Stelian Mocanita wrote: > I voted no just because at this point no matter which way STH goes, it > will end bad so I would rather not have it until people reconcile on > something that works for all parties. There does seem to be a general assumption that a 2/3rds majority actua

Re: [PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll

2015-03-15 Thread Stelian Mocanita
mail.com] > > On Behalf Of Stelian Mocanita > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 11:11 PM > > To: Zeev Suraski > > Cc: PHP internals > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll > > > > Now you are just pushing the limits and doing things yo

RE: [PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll

2015-03-15 Thread Zeev Suraski
On Behalf Of Stelian Mocanita > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 11:11 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll > > Now you are just pushing the limits and doing things your way. Bob clearly > stated he does not want

Re: [PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll

2015-03-15 Thread Stelian Mocanita
I voted no just because at this point no matter which way STH goes, it will end bad so I would rather not have it until people reconcile on something that works for all parties. On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Mar 16, 2015 8:03 AM, "Zeev Suraski" wrote: > > > > All, >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll

2015-03-15 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mar 16, 2015 8:03 AM, "Zeev Suraski" wrote: > > All, > > > > First, I decided not to propose Basic STH under my name, despite the fact I > think that not committing to put it to a vote adds unneeded risk for > delivering STH in PHP 7.0. Whether or not it’s put to a vote will be up to > Bob. I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll

2015-03-15 Thread Stelian Mocanita
Now you are just pushing the limits and doing things your way. Bob clearly stated he does not want a vote and you want with an "unofficial poll"? You need to learn to let things go their course and not always push matters your way. I do not see how you can pull this move yet still be offended when

[PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll

2015-03-15 Thread Zeev Suraski
All, First, I decided not to propose Basic STH under my name, despite the fact I think that not committing to put it to a vote adds unneeded risk for delivering STH in PHP 7.0. Whether or not it’s put to a vote will be up to Bob. Secondly, I do want to attempt to understand what will happen