On Mar 16, 2015 8:41 AM, "Zeev Suraski" <z...@zend.com> wrote: > > Stelian, > > Respectfully, I think internals@ is being just a bit too uptight here. > First, I did ask Bob before doing this, and while he said he thought it > wasn't a good idea (mostly because of feedback such as yours) - he didn't > 'block' me. > > Secondly, can we all relax a bit with the rules, RFCs, legalese and what's > allowed and not allowed to do? It's a simple POLL.
I won't relax on the rules sorry. If there is a more consensus based group I would, maybe, on very rare occasions. But right now, I wouldake them harder and find a way to enforce them instead of relaxing them. Now talking about the ability or will to find compromises, I have to remember you what we (Anatol and team) did for the 64bit RFC, which was accepted. We did not apply it as we could have done. It would have spared us weeks of work but we did not. It would have given us exactly what we wanted but we did not. We instead decided to work with your team (phpng) so your team and php at large won't suffer. And know what? It works out of the box. That's why I have it to say it again, take a step back and reconsider your stance on this whole thing. What is best for php, its contributor and what will make us be seen as a team, what will make us act as a team. Because right now all we show is that we are doing politics, it damages php, get our most valuable contributors to leave the project and prevent new ones to come. I am not over analyzing that, it is a matter of facts and we must stop this madness.