Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's mail servers suck

2017-10-25 Thread Tom Samplonius
> On Oct 25, 2017, at 2:17 PM, Aidan Woods wrote: > >> anyways, don't reject mailing-list messages > > I don't reject the messages, Google rejects the messages because of failed > DMARC requirements. See support[.]google[.]com/mail/answer/2451690 > > The error occurs when the php mailing list

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC - Array Of for PHP 7

2017-10-25 Thread Dan Ackroyd
On 25 October 2017 at 21:41, Michał Harężlak wrote: > Hallo, > > I think this RFC should be voted again. Although 'array of' as well as full blown generics are popular ideas, I'm pretty certain the RFC failed due to the type check on the array happening every time the 'array of' was passed from

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's mail servers suck

2017-10-25 Thread Aidan Woods
> anyways, don't reject mailing-list messages I don't reject the messages, Google rejects the messages because of failed DMARC requirements. See support[.]google[.]com/mail/answer/2451690 The error occurs when the php mailing list attempts to forward messages from a domain which has a (likey stri

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC - Array Of for PHP 7

2017-10-25 Thread Sara Golemon
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Michał Harężlak wrote: > I would like to create a RFC for PHP 7, but the same RFC was created and > declined 3 years ago for PHP 5.4. PHP 7 support much better type hinging so > I think this RFC should be voted again. > > What should I do? Should I create the RPF i

[PHP-DEV] RFC - Array Of for PHP 7

2017-10-25 Thread Michał Harężlak
Hallo, I would like to create a RFC for PHP 7, but the same RFC was created and declined 3 years ago for PHP 5.4. PHP 7 support much better type hinging so I think this RFC should be voted again. What should I do? Should I create the RPF in common way? Link to mentioned RFC: https://wiki.php.net

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's mail servers suck

2017-10-25 Thread Helmut K. C. Tessarek
On 2017-10-25 15:38, Aidan Woods wrote: > I occasionally get emails from the mailing list bot warning I'll be > auto-unsubscribed because messages it is sending to me are are bouncing. > (It sends me back the bounce notification it received, so I can see that > the cause is failed DMARC signing req

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's mail servers suck

2017-10-25 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> > the wording "bounce" is wrong as you don't send active mails, you reject > messages FYI, while incorrect, the wording comes from ezmlm, not Aidan: Messages to you from the internals mailing list seem to > have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce > message I received.

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's mail servers suck

2017-10-25 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 25.10.2017 um 21:38 schrieb Aidan Woods: To throw something else on the heap of things that need fixing in the mail servers: I occasionally get emails from the mailing list bot warning I'll be auto-unsubscribed because messages it is sending to me are are bouncing. (It sends me back the boun

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's mail servers suck

2017-10-25 Thread Aidan Woods
To throw something else on the heap of things that need fixing in the mail servers: I occasionally get emails from the mailing list bot warning I'll be auto-unsubscribed because messages it is sending to me are are bouncing. (It sends me back the bounce notification it received, so I can see that t

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's mail servers suck

2017-10-25 Thread Helmut K. C. Tessarek
On 2017-10-25 10:30, Sara Golemon wrote: > Quick show of hands: Who's had a "looks like spam" bounce from > php.net mail servers in the past... lets say the past month. Not last month, but in the past. Quite often actually. > This isn't directed at any one person because AFAICT, the maintainer >

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] PCRE2 migration

2017-10-25 Thread Christoph M. Becker
Hi Anatol! On 23.10.2017 at 22:12, Anatol Belski wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Christoph M. Becker [mailto:cmbecke...@gmx.de] >> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 4:24 PM >> To: Anatol Belski ; internals@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [RFC] PCRE2 migration >> >> In my opinion, the onl

[PHP-DEV] PHP's mail servers suck

2017-10-25 Thread Sara Golemon
Quick show of hands: Who's had a "looks like spam" bounce from php.net mail servers in the past... lets say the past month. Or how about the fact that new users tend to have a very hard time even subscribing to this list? This isn't directed at any one person because AFAICT, the maintainer of those