To throw something else on the heap of things that need fixing in the mail servers: I occasionally get emails from the mailing list bot warning I'll be auto-unsubscribed because messages it is sending to me are are bouncing. (It sends me back the bounce notification it received, so I can see that the cause is failed DMARC signing requirements on messages from a certain domain). I attempted to forward the bounced email text to internals-owner@lists[.]php[.]net (which was listed in the email as the owner of the bot) along with a link to Google's support page on why it failed. I was unable to make contact because the forwarded message inevitably contained URLs and IPs both in my text and in the forwarded bounce mail, and so I ran into multiple "looks like spam" warnings.
If anyone wants to debug this I can forward the emails I've got (though obviously I can't send them via this mailing list because of domains contained in the text 🤷♂️) On 25 October 2017 at 17:05, Helmut K. C. Tessarek <tessa...@evermeet.cx> wrote: > On 2017-10-25 10:30, Sara Golemon wrote: > > Quick show of hands: Who's had a "looks like spam" bounce from > > php.net mail servers in the past... lets say the past month. > > Not last month, but in the past. Quite often actually. > > > This isn't directed at any one person because AFAICT, the maintainer > > of those systems is "nobody". > > When I mentioned years ago that there was a problem with the mail > server, people on this list became very agressive. > > I even stopped writing to this list for this exact reason. People on > this list tend to react with hostility, when they hear something they > don't like or don't agree with. > > Good luck. > > -- > regards Helmut K. C. Tessarek KeyID 0xF7832007C11F128D > Key fingerprint = 28A3 1666 4FE8 D72C CFD5 8B23 F783 2007 C11F 128D > > /* > Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer for chaos and madness > await thee at its end. > */ > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
