RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension

2008-04-01 Thread Andi Gutmans
> -Original Message- > From: Hannes Magnusson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 7:12 AM > To: Steph Fox > Cc: Tex Texin; Marcus Boerger; Pierre Joye; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP > Developers Mailing List > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Double quoted NOWDOC is HEREDOC

2008-04-01 Thread Christopher Jones
Lars Strojny wrote: Hi, Am Dienstag, den 01.04.2008, 13:21 -0700 schrieb Stanislav Malyshev: 2008? If there is a majority for the syntax until then, I will commit the patch and the test cases. I think if we want to have a vote it should be explicitly announced as a vote, shouldn't it? OK,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Double quoted NOWDOC is HEREDOC

2008-04-01 Thread Lars Strojny
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 01.04.2008, 13:21 -0700 schrieb Stanislav Malyshev: > > 2008? If there is a majority for the syntax until then, I will commit > > the patch and the test cases. > > I think if we want to have a vote it should be explicitly announced as a > vote, shouldn't it? OK, fine. From

Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag

2008-04-01 Thread Wietse Venema
Rasmus Lerdorf: > You can also choose to never store the raw single quote and always work > with encoded data. Or, as I suggest, always filter it by default and in > the places where you want the raw quote back or you want it filtered for > a specific use, specify explicitly which filter you wa

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src(PHP_5_3) / configure.in

2008-04-01 Thread Gwynne Raskind
On Apr 1, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: -O2 is prepended to CFLAGS; with GCC the *last* -O option specified takes precedence. Anything specified by the user will thus override the default -O2. I admit this isn't the cleanest possible solution, but it works, and I don't understand aut

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Double quoted NOWDOC is HEREDOC

2008-04-01 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
2008? If there is a majority for the syntax until then, I will commit the patch and the test cases. I think if we want to have a vote it should be explicitly announced as a vote, shouldn't it? -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Double quoted NOWDOC is HEREDOC

2008-04-01 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
As the original proposer of nowdocs, I also give it a +1 for consistency! "Consistency" must be the most over-used word on the list lately :) -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP Internals - PHP Run

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src(PHP_5_3) /win32/build config.w32

2008-04-01 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
That is not going to happen if no one cares about creating zend multibyte tests. Or we decide on getting rid of that stuff. Because obviously no on ecares about it anyway. I think it was known before you committed the patch that multibyte support needs to be done. It's not something new, and it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Opensource / Job

2008-04-01 Thread Fernando Gabrieli
David I did not think of it as that, sorry if my post was misunderstood Since i did not know any other place to go, somebody at ##php told me it was the official channel For that reason i sent the mail Again, i apologize if it was not a good idea Thank you for telling me about the gsoc, in fa

Re: [PHP-DEV] Opensource / Job

2008-04-01 Thread David Coallier
> I have been a developer for about 11 years and been using PHP about five > > Today i am looking for a job that can be done in my own environment and i > thought that contributing to opensource projects could be a good > possibility, if there is that possibility of course, because i am not sur

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables

2008-04-01 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Steph, On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Steph Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Pierre, > > > > and about Attic, the idea behind a graveyard was about leaving the > > code around for study purposes. > > Code in the attic can be read online but can't be checked out, so I take > your point a

[PHP-DEV] Opensource / Job

2008-04-01 Thread Fernando Gabrieli
Hello all, i am new to this list I have been to the channel at freenode, ##php and they told that the current official channel for PHP developers was here, using the mailing lists I have been a developer for about 11 years and been using PHP about five Today i am looking for a job that can be do

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables

2008-04-01 Thread Steph Fox
Hi Pierre, and about Attic, the idea behind a graveyard was about leaving the code around for study purposes. Code in the attic can be read online but can't be checked out, so I take your point about 'study purposes'. I'd use siberia for things like axis2, where the project is live and hoste

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables

2008-04-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Steph Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Siberia was meant for dead module with no potential to come back to > > live. > > Not in my eyes. There's only a problem with CVS Attic if you want to bring > something back to life, so if there's no potential for that - wh

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables

2008-04-01 Thread Steph Fox
Siberia was meant for dead module with no potential to come back to live. Not in my eyes. There's only a problem with CVS Attic if you want to bring something back to life, so if there's no potential for that - why not use it? I can't see how these two can live again as they are under GPL,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables

2008-04-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Steph Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 01.04.2008 17:00, Marcus Boerger wrote: > >>> So - plain old CVS attic or 'siberia' for the GPL'd ones? > >> > >> IMO Attic. > > > > Yep, attic should be fine. > > I agree with you both (consider it done). > We'll ne

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables

2008-04-01 Thread Steph Fox
On 01.04.2008 17:00, Marcus Boerger wrote: So - plain old CVS attic or 'siberia' for the GPL'd ones? IMO Attic. Yep, attic should be fine. I agree with you both (consider it done). We'll need siberia for modules that have the potential to live again - these two aren't in that category. -

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables

2008-04-01 Thread Antony Dovgal
On 01.04.2008 17:00, Marcus Boerger wrote: So - plain old CVS attic or 'siberia' for the GPL'd ones? IMO Attic. Yep, attic should be fine. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables

2008-04-01 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Steph, Tuesday, April 1, 2008, 2:50:51 PM, you wrote: > Hi all, >> No need to wait, if the code is under GPL and still there, it must be >> moved out from CVS (both never had a pecl release so it is half of an >> issue). Let say we can move it as soon as the siberia top level module >> is

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables

2008-04-01 Thread Steph Fox
Hi all, No need to wait, if the code is under GPL and still there, it must be moved out from CVS (both never had a pecl release so it is half of an issue). Let say we can move it as soon as the siberia top level module is in place. OK, I heard from the muscat author. Both GPL'd extensions can

Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables

2008-04-01 Thread Steph Fox
Hi Philip, Recently the pecl/muscat documentation was removed from phpdoc CVS. No horse mouth was involved, but it seemed like a good time. Just recording this to eliminate the bus factor. For the 'dead extensions' page in the manual: The replacement for the PHP interface to the muscat sear

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src(PHP_5_3) / acinclude.m4

2008-04-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Marcus Boerger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Derick, > > > Tuesday, April 1, 2008, 9:41:08 AM, you wrote: > > > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Marcus Boerger wrote: > > >> we are relying on it as only current HEAD of re2c can actually build the > >> language parser

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.3 the slowest PHP of all times ?!?

2008-04-01 Thread Mario Brandt
Hi, I made some benchmarking on XP Pro. The new PHP is not always faster, but over all. Mario PHP 5.2.5 Benchmark Time Peak MemoryPeak Memory (Real) --- ./benchmarks\ackermann2.222 678144

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src(PHP_5_3) /win32/build config.w32

2008-04-01 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Marcus Boerger wrote: > Monday, March 31, 2008, 5:09:23 PM, you wrote: > > > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Marcus Boerger wrote: > > >> this doesn't work! When allowing to wotk with 0.13.3 then you will end up > >> in a broken .c. Since we have the stuff checked in there really is