Re: [PHP-DEV] Objectified Request Parameters

2007-01-27 Thread Pierre
On 1/27/07, Sara Golemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Btw, having a request object was one of the #1 requests in framework :) People actually really like encapsulating this because it > also makes unit testing easier down the road... > Just mentioning this because I don't think we should be to

RE: [PHP-DEV] Objectified Request Parameters

2007-01-27 Thread Andi Gutmans
Thanks Sara for the additional insight. Give me a few days to look into this further and catch the various people in person. Unfortunately I'm going to be at a four day offsite Monday-Thursday but I'll still try my best to touch base and try and find some agreed upon solution. Right now, I would

Re: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-27 Thread Pierre
On 1/27/07, Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Btw, for people who truly need the Unicode support I actually do think we might want to consider requiring them to fetch the input variables through a new API and/or object. I don't think we need to make it seamless if the "default" behavior w

Re: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-27 Thread Pierre
Hi Andi, On 1/27/07, Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Sara, I don't feel to great with this patch. It kind of feels like twisting the language implementation around for some very specific problem which probably shouldn't be fixed at this level. Andrei says performance of Unicode isn'

Re: [PHP-DEV] Runtime-JIT, the whole enchilada

2007-01-27 Thread Pierre
Hi Andi, On 1/27/07, Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: s during PHP 5 where I warned that they might introduce bugs in other areas but it's hard to forsee. No one believed me because I couldn't give a concrete enough example and we had quite a few of those bugs afterwards. Given the stat

[PHP-DEV] Objectified Request Parameters

2007-01-27 Thread Sara Golemon
> Btw, having a request object was one of the #1 requests in framework :) People actually really like encapsulating this because it > also makes unit testing easier down the road... > Just mentioning this because I don't think we should be too set with our ways esp. for people who need to accomp

Re: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-27 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Jan 27, 2007, at 9:15 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote: Hi Sara, I don't feel to great with this patch. It kind of feels like twisting the language implementation around for some very specific problem which probably shouldn't be fixed at this level. Andrei says performance of Unicode isn't great so

[PHP-DEV] [PATCH] fix zend_llist_remove_tail

2007-01-27 Thread Michael Wallner
The attached patch fixes zend_llist_remove_tail() which didn't reset zend_llist->head properly. The diff was generated against 5_2. Regards, -- Michael Index: Zend/zend_llist.c === RCS file: /repository/ZendEngine2/zend_llist.c,v re

RE: [PHP-DEV] Runtime-JIT, the whole enchilada

2007-01-27 Thread Andi Gutmans
Sorry for the spam (I'm a bit behind). I agree 100% with Dmitry. Guys (n'girls), I don't know if you've realized but the engine has become much involved. We've added a lot of new features in PHP 5 and beyond, Unicode has muliplied that by 2, we added some performance features and we've just more

RE: [PHP-DEV] Runtime-JIT, the whole enchilada

2007-01-27 Thread Andi Gutmans
Btw, having a request object was one of the #1 requests in framework :) People actually really like encapsulating this because it also makes unit testing easier down the road... Just mentioning this because I don't think we should be too set with our ways esp. for people who need to accomplish mo

RE: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-27 Thread Andi Gutmans
Btw, for people who truly need the Unicode support I actually do think we might want to consider requiring them to fetch the input variables through a new API and/or object. I don't think we need to make it seamless if the "default" behavior we provide (whatever that ends up being) isn't good eno

RE: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-27 Thread Andi Gutmans
Hi Sara, I don't feel to great with this patch. It kind of feels like twisting the language implementation around for some very specific problem which probably shouldn't be fixed at this level. Andrei says performance of Unicode isn't great so it shouldn't matter too much, but I think a) it's not

[PHP-DEV] Improving the documentation

2007-01-27 Thread Mehdi Achour
Hello internals, I've been helping with PHP documentation for 4 years now, and I still can't help the fact that a lt of things are not documented, that our/my way of handling the PHP documentation update is not accurate, nor productive, nor bug free at all. Personally, I try to follow co

Re: [PHP-DEV] Runtime-JIT, the whole enchilada

2007-01-27 Thread Pierre
On 1/27/07, Dmitry Stogov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Pierre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:16 PM > To: Andrei Zmievski > Cc: Dmitry Stogov; Sara Golemon; internals@lists.php.net; > Andi Gutmans; Zeev Suraski; Stanislav Malyshev

RE: [PHP-DEV] Runtime-JIT, the whole enchilada

2007-01-27 Thread Dmitry Stogov
> -Original Message- > From: Pierre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:16 PM > To: Andrei Zmievski > Cc: Dmitry Stogov; Sara Golemon; internals@lists.php.net; > Andi Gutmans; Zeev Suraski; Stanislav Malyshev > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Runtime-JIT, the whole enchi

Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: wharmby

2007-01-27 Thread Pierre
On 1/27/07, andy wharmby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maintaining the COM extension. Andi Gutmans suggested I apply for access. And if there is any need to confirm this request, please check Andy's nice work on the existing bug and his recent patch sent to the list. COM needs some love :) --Pier

Re: [PHP-DEV] Runtime-JIT, the whole enchilada

2007-01-27 Thread Pierre
Hello Andrei, On 1/27/07, Andrei Zmievski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good luck trying to retrain millions of programmers to use a CGI object or a function to retrieve GPC values. You will be surprised, really :) Really, how much of a performance hit is Sara's patch going to be, compared to o

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: wharmby

2007-01-27 Thread andy wharmby
Maintaining the COM extension. Andi Gutmans suggested I apply for access. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php