Btw, having a request object was one of the #1 requests in framework :) People 
actually really like encapsulating this because it
also makes unit testing easier down the road...
Just mentioning this because I don't think we should be too set with our ways 
esp. for people who need to accomplish more
functionality.
Andi 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pierre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:16 AM
> To: Andrei Zmievski
> Cc: Dmitry Stogov; Sara Golemon; internals@lists.php.net; 
> Andi Gutmans; Zeev Suraski; Stanislav Malyshev
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Runtime-JIT, the whole enchilada
> 
> Hello Andrei,
> 
> On 1/27/07, Andrei Zmievski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Good luck trying to retrain millions of programmers to use a CGI 
> > object or a function to retrieve GPC values.
> 
> You will be surprised, really :)
> 
> > Really, how much of a
> > performance hit is Sara's patch going to be, compared to 
> other things 
> > in PHP 6?
> 
> It is to early to argue about performance problems in my 
> humble opinion. My point was more about the complexity. 
> That's why I prefer the other solution which simply moves the 
> JIT to runtime without other changes but a function to get 
> the encoding error.
> 
> To be honest, I do not understand the resistance to commit 
> experimental code in head. For what really matters, we need a 
> working solution. It does not need to be perfert, it needs to 
> work (more or less). We still have plenty of time to improve 
> it until 6 is out (not going to happen in the next months anyway).
> 
> --Pierre
> 

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