Re: [Int-area] Introductions of 2 new drafts in Intarea wg

Luigi, Yihao, all, Thanks for initiating this work. For some comments, please see inline. Best, Dirk From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Luigi Iannone Sent: 18 November 2020 07:39 To: Jiayihao (Network, 2012 Lab) Cc: Yanshen (2012 NGIP) ; Dangjuanna ; Chenzhe (Z) ;

Re: [Int-area] The small address use case in FlexIP

Stewart, all, As Yihao pointed out, we are working on an update to the draft to focus the discussion on the communication scenarios and problems arising in those scenarios. In that sense, we agree with your desire for a holistic discussion and see this upcoming update as one of the next towards

Re: [Int-area] The small address use case in FlexIP

Stewart, all, You may have noticed that we did submit the mentioned update to the draft, available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jia-intarea-scenarios-problems-addressing/. I hope this addresses a few points discussed so far. Best, Dirk From: Dirk Trossen Sent: 05 February 2021

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-sarathchandra-tactile-internet-00.txt

Hi Chathura, Interesting draft, indeed, to start a discussion here on this list. Adrian's responded with a piece I'd also recommended, namely the SARAH list, where this contribution may well contribute to possible discussions on addressing and routing aspects related to the Tactile Internet.

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-sarathchandra-tactile-internet-00.txt

Hi Chathura, Please see inline. I'm also CCing the SARAH list where some members may have comments on this draft, too. Best, Dirk -Original Message- From: Chathura Sarathchandra [mailto:chathura.sarathchan...@interdigital.com] Sent: 28 June 2021 18:26 To: Dirk Trossen ; int

[Int-area] Follow-up on Internet addressing presentation at IETF111 int-area meeting

Dear all, As a follow-up from the int-area meeting on 31st of July, we would like to solicit comments and feedback on the Internet addressing problem statement and gap analysis drafts (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jia-intarea-scenarios-problems-addressing/ and https://datatracker.ie

[Int-area] Side meeting on Problems and Gap Analysis for Internet Addressing [WAS RE: I-D. Updates on Internet Addressing: Problem statement and Gap analysis]

Dear all, You may have seen the update to our drafts on problem statement and gap analysis for Internet addressing, to be found at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jia-intarea-scenarios-problems-addressing/ and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jia-intarea-internet-addressing-gap-an

Re: [Int-area] IETF-112 Side meeting on "Service Routing and Addressing"

Hi Alex, Indeed, the side meeting you refer to is more specifically discussing the evolution of Internet addressing, tying into the current drafts submitted to the INT area WG (the side meeting is meant to stimulate discussion on those drafts). We have asked Vasileios from CloudFlare to join th

Re: [Int-area] overlay networks and the democratizing of address allocations

Hi Dino & Michael, Thanks for kicking off the discussion. We showed our main points and take-away at the INT area WG meeting just now. On your point of > The side meeting was focus on bottom-up and that always results in no one > wanting the solution. I think Luigi/Dirk wanted this discussion

[Int-area] Side meeting follow-up: What exact features do we want from the Internet?

Dear all, Many thanks for those participating in the side meeting on Internet addressing during the IETF 112 week. As suggested during the meeting, we want to take various points of discussion during the meeting onto the mailing list to continue discussion here on possible ways forward. Specif

Re: [Int-area] Side meeting follow-up: What exact features do we want from the Internet?

? More inline. Best, Dirk -Original Message- From: Dino Farinacci [mailto:farina...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 December 2021 23:18 To: Dirk Trossen Cc: int-area@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Int-area] Side meeting follow-up: What exact features do we want from the Internet? Here's my single fe

Re: [Int-area] Side meeting follow-up: What exact features do we want from the Internet?

in (US), Fred L [mailto:fred.l.temp...@boeing.com] Sent: 01 December 2021 23:28 To: Dino Farinacci ; Dirk Trossen Cc: int-area@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Int-area] Side meeting follow-up: What exact features do we want from the Internet? My input is that we will want the "6 M's of Modern

Re: [Int-area] Side meeting follow-up: What exact features do we want from the Internet?

- From: Dino Farinacci [mailto:farina...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 December 2021 20:01 To: Dirk Trossen Cc: int-area@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Int-area] Side meeting follow-up: What exact features do we want from the Internet? > Many thanks for the reply. Let me tie this back to my question regard

Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening?

Jumping into this late (due to a few days off), see inline. -Original Message- From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter Sent: 18 December 2021 20:51 To: Stewart Bryant ; Geoff Huston Cc: Int-area@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the fea

Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening?

Just as a thought: how much is this discussion led by the use of Internet technologies for the public Internet vs use of Internet technologies for non-public use or limited domains (or even something we may consider future versions of the 'public internet')? In other words, is this trend to cen

Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening?

Brian,. See inline. Dirk -Original Message- From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com] Sent: 20 December 2021 21:03 To: Dirk Trossen ; Stewart Bryant ; Geoff Huston Cc: Int-area@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening? On 20

[Int-area] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway?

All, Thanks for the great discussion, following our side meeting at IETF 112, so far. I wanted to turn the discussion to a key question which not only arose in the side meeting already but also in the discussions since, namely "what is an address anyway?". It seems that any answer would very m

Re: [Int-area] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway?

riginal Message- From: Geoff Huston [mailto:g...@apnic.net] Sent: 25 January 2022 20:42 To: Stewart Bryant Cc: int-area@ietf.org; Dirk Trossen Subject: Re: [Int-area] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway? > On 26 Jan 2022, at 5:47 am, Stewart Bryant wrote: &

Re: [Int-area] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway?

Apologies, the below should read " then the question arises how much of an ephemeral nature we see in the relations between a client and an egress ", of course. -Original Message----- From: Dirk Trossen Sent: 26 January 2022 10:21 To: 'Geoff Huston' ; Stewart Bryant C

Re: [Int-area] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway?

Hi Geoff, Thanks for the thoughts below, which is much aligned with previous interactions on the development of the current Internet. Please see inline. Best, Dirk -Original Message- From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Huston Sent: 26 January 2022 20:35

Re: [Int-area] Call for comments of the draft Service Routing in MEC

Hi Zongpeng, Thanks for pointing out the draft again (I couldn't attend the full INTArea meeting last week due to conflicts with other meetings). Let me try to summarize the proposed mechanism, hoping I understood it right: you are proposing to use the lower 128bit for identifying a service IP

Re: [Int-area] Call for comments of the draft Service Routing in MEC

Hi Zongpeng, Thanks for the answers. Please see inline. Best, Dirk From: duzongp...@foxmail.com Sent: 02 August 2022 11:36 To: Dirk Trossen ; Int-area Subject: Re: RE: [Int-area] Call for comments of the draft Service Routing in MEC Hi, Dirk Thanks for the reply. Please see in

Re: [Int-area] whither multicast?

Hi John, Thanks for the comments. Please see inline. Best, Dirk -Original Message- From: Int-area On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: 30 November 2022 03:16 To: Luigi Iannone Cc: int-area ; g...@toad.com Subject: Re: [Int-area] whither multicast? > https://arxiv.org/pdf/2211.09029.pdf T

Re: [Int-area] [Cats] More on "Service Aware Network"

All, Chiming in here from my travel to the IETF. At the upcoming Friday meeting of the RTG WG, there will also be a presentation of the Routing on Service Addresses (ROSA) draft (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-trossen-rtgwg-rosa). Given the emphasis on the routing aspect, this has