Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-04 Thread Ambar Roy
> I'm glad this discussion came up, since it enables us to look deeper > into a school's requirements and determine what we can provide to meet > them. There's RHIDE for Linux, which (from the one screenshot I saw) > appears to look and work exactly like Turbo C. Anyone willing to > evaluate tha

RE: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-03 Thread Ramneek Handa
depend upon ... Drop them in a spool and they shall learn to swim ;) ramneek -Original Message- From: Harshal Vaidya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:52 AM To: multiple recipients of Subject: Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools Although I respect your view

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-03 Thread Harshal Vaidya
- Original Message - From: "Ramneek Handa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:35 AM Subject: RE: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools > hi all, >i have been working on rhide for abt 1 year now it is a real good > de

RE: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-03 Thread Ramneek Handa
-Original Message- From: Raju Mathur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:43 AM To: multiple recipients of Subject: Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools I agree with Ambar here (whatever I can make out of that part of his post which is written in English ). If we're a

RE: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-03 Thread Raju Mathur
> "Venky" == D Venkatasubramanian writes: Venky> Hi, >> Promoting a mix of Linux and DOS/Windows weakens our case >> significantly Venky> since it >> projects Linux as an incomplete and consequently undesirable >> solution. Venky> You do have a point there, but

RE: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-03 Thread D.Venkatasubramanian, Noida
Hi, >If after installing Linux we say, `However >you still need to purchase Turbo C (or any other DOS/Win app)', we >lose that advantage. xwpe is free, if anyone wants, I could give you the rpms, you could evaluate that. Similar to TC++, you don't have to create a project, just type in a C sourc

RE: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools - TC++

2002-06-03 Thread D.Venkatasubramanian, Noida
Hi, 1. Most of the students like to make their projects graphics-based, which is pretty simple and straight forward in TC++, but that may not be the case with linux. Why don't you try XWPE for Linux. Very similar to the TC++ environment. Also supports source-level debuggi

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-03 Thread Raju Mathur
I agree with Ambar here (whatever I can make out of that part of his post which is written in English ). If we're aiming to popularise Linux in schools, one (though not the only) argument we have to present is cost. If after installing Linux we say, `However you still need to purchase Turbo C (o

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-03 Thread Ambar Roy
In fact if you code your apps properly, you shud be able to use glut/open gl and get a completely cross platform app. And so you shudn't really require to use wine for opengl. Also opengl doesn't run very well on the hardware that most of the schools tend to have, u do need a graphics accelerator

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-03 Thread Ambar Roy
> > Can't we run tc++ under dosemu?? This way we can have linux, and if any > > student/external examiner wants they can use tc++! Last time i checked (and > > this is a very long time back) dosemu was a functional system, and it cud > > run most of the sw for dos! > > We could try that, but i hav

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-03 Thread Karan Aggarwal
--- Ankit Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ambar, > We could try that, but i have my doubts. Any decent Emulation program will handle Graphics stuff really well. Last time I used wine they were adding openGL support in it. I am sure just simple graphics.h calls will not be a problem. > Not con

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-03 Thread Ankit Jain
Ambar, > Can't we run tc++ under dosemu?? This way we can have linux, and if any > student/external examiner wants they can use tc++! Last time i checked (and > this is a very long time back) dosemu was a functional system, and it cud > run most of the sw for dos! We could try that, but i have m

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-03 Thread Ambar Roy
> 1. Most of the students like to make their projects graphics-based, which > is pretty simple and straight forward in TC++, but that > may not be the case with linux. Can't we run tc++ under dosemu?? This way we can have linux, and if any student/external examiner wants they can use tc++! Last ti

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-02 Thread Ankit Jain
Hey, AFAIK, the cbse syllabus won't be the problem. It doesnt have anything dos/windows specific. But we will face a problem in case of the projects that 12th class students have to make. Those are "checked" by external teachers. Following are the problems we might encounter : 1. Most of the s

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-02 Thread M.K.Pai
Hi guys, I can confirm that the computer science syllabus does *not* appear on the CBSE website. For the benefit of the list members, the URL is http://www.cbse.nic.in . This, I think, makes it critical that M/s Prateek and his gang get us the syllabi for classes 11 and 12 as soon as they can.

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-01 Thread Karan Aggarwal
--- Raju Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nice points, where were you at the Linux for Schools > Meeting? :-) :) I would have loved to be there. But I landed just a couple of weeks ago. And I figured I have had a good long break and now its time to do something more than just sit and watch

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-01 Thread Raju Mathur
Hi Karan, Nice points, where were you at the Linux for Schools Meeting? :-) Anyway, please be there tomorrow (Sunday) so we can discuss these issues. Regards, -- Raju > "Karan" == Karan Aggarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Karan> Since the e-mail is fairly long, I am going to reply t

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-06-01 Thread Karan Aggarwal
Since the e-mail is fairly long, I am going to reply to it in a Newsgroups sort of manner. -Karan --- Leo Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > which their syllabus can be covered. An environment > with which the teachers > are familiar. It is not yet a conscious decision on > the part of

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-05-31 Thread Gami
pls unsubscribe from the list in that case - Original Message - From: "Subrata Saha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools > Pl donot send such mails again > > > >

Re: [ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-05-31 Thread Subrata Saha
Pl donot send such mails again --- Leo Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Am due to start (today/tomorrow - time permitting) > installation and > configuration of Red Hat Linux on a 40Gb HDD to be > used as a server in a > school computer Lab. This an attempt to demon

[ilugd]: Linux for Schools

2002-05-31 Thread Leo Fernandez
Hi, Am due to start (today/tomorrow - time permitting) installation and configuration of Red Hat Linux on a 40Gb HDD to be used as a server in a school computer Lab. This an attempt to demonstrate to the school that a Linux server could be used in place of the Novell server they intend to