Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-09-02 Thread Common Man
>On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > is it possible to use our face as password? > > http://www.keylemon.com/ gives a software for windows. > > is it available in linux? Look at OpenCv at http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/. BSD licensed C libraries to develop industrial s

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-09-01 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/01/2009 04:20 PM, R.Subramanian (RS) wrote: We carried out tests on a miniature database of about a million records. where and how were you able to get such a 'large' sample database ? or was this generated rather than real ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq __

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-09-01 Thread R.Subramanian (RS)
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Eknath Venkataramani wrote: > how efficient is the search? Can you describe the best case, worst case and > average case? > We carried out tests on a miniature database of about a million records. The False match was in the order of 2-3 in a million. The False no

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-31 Thread Eknath Venkataramani
Checking against a database without any indexing would be absurd considering the number of misses the system would encounter. As you have penned that indexing of fingerprints has been done, how efficient is the search? Can you describe the best case, worst case and average case? On Mon, Aug 31, 200

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-31 Thread R.Subramanian (RS)
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Prem Kurian Philip wrote: > > These have already been busted. They use a thin film (with the finger > print image) which covers the finger and the heat from the hand goes right > through. > > > Any good sensor with LFD will reject them all. I have made dozens

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-31 Thread Prem Kurian Philip
> >> A group of german hackers published the fingerprints of the German Home >> Secretary and also published tips on how to make a copy of the fingerprint >> for use on fingerprint readers. >> >Today's fingerprint readers have something called LFD. ( Live finger >Detection) It measures the tempera

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-31 Thread R.Subramanian (RS)
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Prem Kurian Philip wrote: > > A group of german hackers published the fingerprints of the German Home > Secretary and also published tips on how to make a copy of the fingerprint > for use on fingerprint readers. > Today's fingerprint readers have something calle

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-31 Thread R.Subramanian (RS)
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Eknath Venkataramani wrote: > Is it then that finger print scanners and/or iris scanners are going to be > used for the UID project? > > Yes. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/Politics/Nation/I-am-aware-of-UID-challenges-Nilekani/articleshow/4952912.cms __

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-31 Thread R.Subramanian (RS)
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Venkatraman S wrote: > > > it is very much possible to identify a human being uniquely even against > a > > database of 6 billion biometric records. > > > > > Is it? Can you expatiate plz? > Most of the biometric images are taken at 50 micrometer resolution or le

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-30 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello, On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Prem Kurian Philip wrote: > If your entire ID mechanism relies on this compromised biometric code, > then the person will have to be locked out of the system - because the > person cannot change their finger / iris print once they become public > knowledge. Bruce Schne

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-30 Thread Prem Kurian Philip
Eknath Venkataramani wrote: >Is it then that finger print scanners and/or iris scanners are going to be >used for the UID project? I hope not. The problem with all biometric mechanisms such as finger prints, iris prints etc is that it gives an illusion of security but the truth is that these sys

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-30 Thread Eknath Venkataramani
Is it then that finger print scanners and/or iris scanners are going to be used for the UID project? *suddenly thinks of minority report* On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 2:00 PM, R.Subramanian (RS) wrote: > Today , with the current high resolution scanners and image processing > techniques, it is very mu

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-30 Thread Venkatraman S
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 2:00 PM, R.Subramanian (RS) wrote: > > Today , with the current high resolution scanners and image processing > techniques, > it is very much possible to identify a human being uniquely even against a > database of 6 billion biometric records. > > Is it? Can you expatiate p

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-29 Thread R.Subramanian (RS)
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Eknath Venkataramani < eknath.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > Off-topic but still.. Is there no ONE technology that could identify a > human > being uniquely? Today , with the current high resolution scanners and image processing techniques, it is very much possible to

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-28 Thread Eknath Venkataramani
Nice.. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Raja Subramanian wrote: > > Had the opportunity of working with both briefly. > ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iit

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-27 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Eknath Venkataramani wrote: > Off-topic but still.. Is there no ONE technology that could identify a human > being uniquely? Finger prints are unique, and scanners are < $20 and should suffice for most cases. If you want something more fancy, palm vein based biom

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-27 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/27/2009 06:42 PM, Eknath Venkataramani wrote: Off-topic but still.. Is there no ONE technology that could identify a human being uniquely? I though retinal scanners work perfectly but the only drawback in using iris scanners and retinal scanners is that excessive exposure to that instrument

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-27 Thread Vinod Parthasarathy
2D face recognition algorithms face so many problems such as change of lighting, facial features, profile etc. 3D recognition is showing some promise, but its still an active research area, though some commercial products are available Vinod. On 27/08/2009, Eknath Venkataramani wrote: > Off-topi

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-27 Thread Eknath Venkataramani
Off-topic but still.. Is there no ONE technology that could identify a human being uniquely? I though retinal scanners work perfectly but the only drawback in using iris scanners and retinal scanners is that excessive exposure to that instrument could visually impair you or something like that. On

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-27 Thread Aanjhan R
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:28 PM, varadarajan narayanan wrote: >>> I dont want someone, who has a photo of mine, to be able to get into my >>> computers :) > > But Iris scanners are used as a secure log in ! Facial recognition - Disadvantage of having photographs and getting through the security. I

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-27 Thread varadarajan narayanan
>> >>> http://www.keylemon.com/ gives a software for windows. >>> is it available in linux? >>> >> >> I dont want someone, who has a photo of mine, to be able to get into my >> computers :) But Iris scanners are used as a secure log in ! Cheers varadarajan ___

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-27 Thread Venkatraman S
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 08/27/2009 04:38 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > >> http://www.keylemon.com/ gives a software for windows. >> is it available in linux? >> > > I dont want someone, who has a photo of mine, to be able to get into my > computers :) > > btw, sony

Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-27 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/27/2009 04:38 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote: http://www.keylemon.com/ gives a software for windows. is it available in linux? I dont want someone, who has a photo of mine, to be able to get into my computers :) btw, sony have a demo s/w that is in Linux, iirc - that they run on the ps3's to

[Ilugc] face as password

2009-08-27 Thread Shrinivasan T
is it possible to use our face as password? http://www.keylemon.com/ gives a software for windows. is it available in linux? if not, I request students to take this as their project. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My experiences with Linux are here http://goinggnu.wordpress.com For Free and Open