[Ietf-dkim] Re: New drafts published

2025-03-15 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Michael Thomas wrote in : |On 3/6/25 3:34 AM, Richard Clayton wrote: |> In message <799da3ac-0b80-4aa4-857d-25d1b1027...@mtcc.com>, Michael |> Thomas writes |> |>> 3) Any intermediary along the mail path is completely at liberty to |>> (re)sign a message already with DKIM. |> |> Yes and m

[Ietf-dkim] Re: single deliveries, was New drafts published

2025-03-15 Thread John Levine
It appears that Laura Atkins said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >Right, almost everything that comes out of a commercial ESP is single >recipient already - and many of those actually use unique MAIL FROM: addresses >as well. > >> But mailing lists might be a very different story. This week’s delays on >> IET

[Ietf-dkim] Re: New drafts published

2025-03-15 Thread Richard Clayton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message , Murray S. Kucherawy writes >The argument has been made that the bulk of Internet mail these >days is single recipient anyway, so the load increase this would >cause is negligible. > >Someone who has data to back up that

[Ietf-dkim] Forwarding, was Review: draft-gondwana-dkim2-motivation-01

2025-03-15 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 12/Mar/2025 15:51:44 +0100 Allen Robinson wrote: Definition of forwarding In the context of DKIM2, this is the act of accepting a message with some 821.To address and resending it to some number of other 821.To addresses, potentially after modifying the message. This definition covers

[Ietf-dkim] Re: New drafts published

2025-03-15 Thread Richard Clayton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message <1ab921c3-9ebd-4e81-8d19-c3772b02d...@dcrocker.net>, Dave Crocker writes >On 3/6/2025 5:07 AM, Richard Clayton wrote: >> Yesterday (Wednesday) at $DAYJOB the percentage of mail delivered to a >> single recipient (rather than 2 or more) was

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Forwarding, was Review: draft-gondwana-dkim2-motivation-01

2025-03-15 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Alessandro Vesely wrote in <8e3080de-64c8-40ae-87be-9538bd2be...@tana.it>: |On Wed 12/Mar/2025 15:51:44 +0100 Allen Robinson wrote: |>> Definition of forwarding |> |> In the context of DKIM2, this is the act of accepting a message with \ |> some |> 821.To address and resending it to some nu

[Ietf-dkim] Re: New drafts published

2025-03-15 Thread Pete Resnick
On 6 Mar 2025, at 14:35, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: ...a german one that is known to be no good to customers... OK, this is going to stop right now. In the IETF, we do not make comments on anyone's personal traits, company reputations, or other ad hominem comments in our discussions. Steffen,

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Forwarding, was Review: draft-gondwana-dkim2-motivation-01

2025-03-15 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in <20250315233133.olukXXgT@steffen%sdaoden.eu>: |Alessandro Vesely wrote in | <8e3080de-64c8-40ae-87be-9538bd2be...@tana.it>: ... ||If signing 821.To could somehow be made into a separate signature, the ||"classic" alias forwarding would not break the other (part of t

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Forwarding, was Review: draft-gondwana-dkim2-motivation-01

2025-03-15 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Sun, Mar 16, 2025, at 04:50, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > > I think an argument could be made that this definition doesn't apply to all > > relays. Systems that don't need to change 821.From or 821.To and don't > > modify > > the message being transferred would probably be able to operate witho