Michael Thomas wrote in
 <a0da12a1-82f9-4346-974a-cdc77660b...@mtcc.com>:
 |On 3/6/25 3:34 AM, Richard Clayton wrote:
 |> In message <799da3ac-0b80-4aa4-857d-25d1b1027...@mtcc.com>, Michael
 |> Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> writes
 |>
 |>> 3) Any intermediary along the mail path is completely at liberty to
 |>> (re)sign a message already with DKIM.
 |>
 |> Yes and many do ... as a result of which a high proportion of email has
 |> two signatures and in some cases it can be dozens. This is expensive for
 |> recipients who need to check all the signatures to assess which are
 |> valid (and then they must reason about reputation in complex ways)
 |
 |No they don't. Recipients don't have to do anything if they don't want 
 |to. That said, RSA verify operations are cheap and completely in the 
 |noise of processing incoming mail.
 |
 |But I don't see anything with what is being proposed which would cause 
 |fewer signatures in the mail path in any case. If anything, it seems to 
 |encourage more.

Currently you have ARC which creates two per hop.  Plus DKIM.
Thereafter you have one.
Or more of course, with DKIM2, for some years, until DKIM as such
vanishs, at least.

You only need to check one signature, unless you *really* want to
check in depth, because *then* you know exactly which one.
(Whereas before some first look for RFC5322.From, which is more
expensive to find, and not the signature which will succeed for at
least many mailing-lists.)

Sorry for talking to you, by the way :)

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

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