Re: Rexx Exec to Build 10,000 PDS Members: ALLOC vs ISPF Services vs ?

Hi Kolusu, Thank you for the information. Do you have any working samples (or know where to find them)? Regards, David On 2023-04-20 09:19, Sri h Kolusu wrote: David, If you need to split a file by a key into various members of a pds , it is quite simple to do with DFSORT and performing the e

Re: Rexx Exec to Build 10,000 PDS Members: ALLOC vs ISPF Services vs ?

Hi Gil, - They Keys are all Upper Case. - The Keys are all not longer than 8 characters - DYNALLOC for each member. Thanks and regards, David On 2023-04-20 10:30, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 13:19:54 +, Sri h Kolusu wrote: If you need to split a file by a key into various mem

Re: Rexx Exec to Build 10,000 PDS Members: ALLOC vs ISPF Services vs ?

Hi Gil, Please see CBT Tape File 093. (cbttape.org) Regards, David From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: April 20, 2023 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rexx Exec

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

Hi Bill, You could treat JCL (with line numbers on) as a ++MAC in SMP. Each "PTF" (++MACUPD) could be IEBUPDTE Control cards (e.g. ./ CHANGE followed by numbered "cards". Regards, David On 2023-04-21 08:51, Bill Giannelli wrote: SCLM seems geared towards COBOL and PLI not JCL? On Fri, 21 Apr

Re: Edit commands without a macro?

Hi Kolusu, 1) You could use IPOUPDTE also. 2) Does File manager do "intelligent changes" like ISPF Edit? (If Source String and Target String are different lengths, does the "line" beyond the change get shifted, or, if there multiple blanks, not necessarily) Regards, David On 2023-04-21 12:23,

TSO Rexx C2X Incorrect Output

Hi, I am writing a TSO Rexx Exec to Parse fields from a DCOLLECT output (VB/32756/32760). One statement is: created=C2x(Substr(dcollect.i,105,4)) (In DCOLLECT parlance, this is DCDCREDT). For any date greater than 2000-01-01, I get the expected result. But, when the field contains x'1999160F' (I

Re: TSO Rexx C2X Incorrect Output

Hi Kolusu, I made sure of that only "D" Records are being processed. Thanks and regards, David On 2023-04-24 12:15, Sri h Kolusu wrote: One statement is: created=C2x(Substr(dcollect.i,105,4)) (In DCOLLECT parlance, this is DCDCREDT). David, One thing you may want to check is that you are doi

Re: TSO Rexx C2X Incorrect Output

? I used Gilbert Saint-Flour's REXXTRY and got this result: READY REXXTRY SAY C2X('1996160F'X) END 1996160F Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Monday, April 24, 2023 11:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subjec

Re: TSO Rexx C2X Incorrect Output

wn. Regards, David On 2023-04-27 09:35, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 06:47:55 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Peter, I figured out the problem. I should have coded Parse Pull to take the record off of the Stack (instead of Pull (which uppercases the record)). Events such as this

Re: TSO Rexx C2X Incorrect Output

7; and the Pull ORd it with x'40' to uppercase it.) Regards, David On 2023-04-27 11:39, Walt Farrell wrote: On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:01:06 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: Had I thought (originally) that "Pull" was the issue,. I would've figured it out on my own. Using the tr

Re: TSO command System Rexx

Hi Willy, In TSO (unlike PGM=IDCAMS), "EN" is sufficient. Regards, David On 2023-05-07 05:43, Willy Jensen wrote: This will issue any TSO command, but security-wise I think it opens a barn door. Save it as member TSOCMD in your SYSREXX lib. /* general TSO command rexx */ ad

Re: Logical Nor (¬) in ASCII-based code pages?

Hi Phil, Tsuris?! ... Maybe farklempt is more apt? (For people of Yeshivish background (like me) Ogmas Nefesh is even closer.) Regards, David On 2023-05-09 00:26, Phil Smith III wrote: Seymour, Since you seem to be getting upset about this academic discussion, I will bow out. No need for

Re: Can REXX OUTTRAP trap WTO's?

Hi Peter, Assuming you  have SDSF, have you considered using its one of its APIs to scan the SYSLOG every n minutes? Regards, David On 2023-05-09 13:55, Farley, Peter wrote: I believe that the CONSOLE facility is authorized and I have no authorization. I have no access to either System Rexx

Re: Listing empty HLQs - LISTCAT?

Hi Al, "...You need to run through VTOC entries to find any datasets that may be uncatalogued  ..." For Uncatalogued Datasets, you can use: - DCOLLECT by VOLSER )with masking) - VTOC CP (CBT File 112) with masking. (If you want JCL samples, please PM me). Regards, David On 2023-05-16 09:45,

Re: Two related member generation questions

Hi Jeremy, "...I've no idea if that is or was correct ..." Have you ever heard of the CSI (Consolidated  Software Inventory)? This/these VSAM Dataset(s) has/have been part of SMP/e since the day it came out in the '80s. Regards, David On 2023-05-30 18:20, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: On Tue, 30 May 2

Re: Two related member generation questions

Hi Gil, "... Leading? In member names? I was told it was the result of UNPK of a SVC number.  ..." Not leading, but trailing. Regards, David On 2023-05-31 10:55, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 31 May 2023 11:57:07 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: I don't recall leading braces or hyphens in qualif

Re: Q: Transient SVC ?

Hi Shmuel AMV"SH, In OS/VS1 it was IEHIOSUP. Regards, David On 2023-06-01 08:33, Seymour J Metz wrote: It's C0 in code pages 37 and 1047. Transient SVC routines are supposed to be refreshable. That's important both for OS/360 SVC transient areas and for the paging of the PLPA in MVS (SVS was

Re: PDS/PDSE Member information

Hi Jack, Please see PDS Command Processor (CBT File 182). In particular, the "D" Command (against a member) will give you what you need. If you don't like Public Domain Software, please look at ISPF Services LMMDISP https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=services-lmmdisp-member-list-serv

Re: PDS/PDSE Member information

Hi Gil, LMMSTATS to change the information, LMMDISP to display it. Regards, David On 2023-06-15 11:20, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 16:10:20 +0100, Jack Zukt wrote: Is there a way to get the PDS/PDSE member information, namely, member/userid/last change date in batch? I have not

Re: How batch create a PDSE2 with Generations?

Hi Lionel, SYSDA is a user-defined esoteric group. SYSALLDA, OTOH, encompasses all DASD Units and is built-in to z/OS. Regards, David On 2023-06-26 11:58, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: The OP asked for batch, and I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that he wanted to do it with JCL for a vendor product i

Re: 0C1 abend

Hi Binyamin AMV"SH, My experience with missing DD Statements in HLLs has been x13 ABENDs. Regards, David On 2023-07-02 05:13, Binyamin Dissen wrote: On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 08:03:59 -0500 Bill Giannelli wrote: :>How do I resolve a 0C1 abend. what is normally the cause? For high level languages, u

Re: z/OSMF

Hi Terri, If you have a 14 inch monitor, it is time to invest in your career and get a proper monitor (e.g. 27 inch minimum). If you're seeing 3-4 lines, it also means that you're probably using Model 2 emulation (24x80). Model 2 for a SysProg wastes a lot of time with unnecessarily scrolling,

Re: z/OSMF

Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 8:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Hi Terri, If you have a 14 inch monitor, it is time to invest in your care

Re: 0C1 abend

Hi Shmuel AMV"SH, My experience has been that when the OPEN fails (e.g. missing/incorrect ALLOCATion), the program gets an x13 ABEND and does not get as far as checking DCBx. Regards, David On 2023-07-04 09:03, Seymour J Metz wrote: * Failing to test DCBOFOPN after OPEN -- Shmuel

Re: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF

Hi Robert, Is the source code available? If yes, how does one get it? Thanks and regards, David On 2023-07-05 09:17, Crawford Robert C (Contractor) wrote: In the early 80's we had an adventure game written in PL/1. It was largely table driven so I added a room full of Texas Aggies. To retrie

Re: separate a single product into its own CSI

Hi Bill, Please look at the BUILDMCS command. Please see also: https://www.mail-archive.com/ibm-main@listserv.ua.edu/msg30268.html Regards, David On 2023-07-13 07:49, Bill Giannelli wrote: We have a CSI with multiple products (Db2 QMF QM and HPUNL - High Performance Unload). Is there a way to

Re: Where does the IHASLMSG mapping macro live?

Hi Mike, Please see: IHASLMSG mapping - IBM Documentation Regards, David On 2023-07-13 10:55, Mike Shaw wrote: Listers, The doc for the SLIP command's MSGID= operand includes this text describing the register contents

Re: Userid schemes

Hi Phil, I worked at a multi--national food company in the early '90s. Their Userid scheme was first 5 letters of surname, first letter of first name. One guy, Mr. M. Pinchbeck became irate when people kept referring to him (PINCHBM) as "Pinch Bum". I didn't get excited about mine (SPIEGED). On

Re: Userid schemes

Hi Richard, I worked at a place where the SysProg-in-chief was an arrogant guy from the Former Soviet Union. His Userid was "A". Regards, David On 2023-07-13 19:49, rpinion865 wrote: I worked at a place where the VP didn't like using anything related to names, due to name changes and the suc

Re: Userid schemes

Hi Gil, When I worked at IBM Canada full time (1994-2002), our TSO Userids were XXn, where n was a person's "man number" (aka employee number). Regards, David On 2023-07-13 20:32, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 20:17:38 -0400, Matt Hogstrom wrote: A place I worked used in

Re: Userid schemes

n wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 21:56:55 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: When I worked at IBM Canada full time (1994-2002), our TSO Userids were XXn, where n was a person's "man number" (aka employee number).

Re: Userid schemes

Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, You said: "...Auditors don't like multiple user ids..." It's not the first time auditors have had illogical ideas. OTOH, 2 or more people sharing a Userid is BAD. Regards, David On 2023-07-14 08:38, Seymour J Metz wrote: Auditors don't like multiple user ids, but sysprogs a

Re: Userid schemes

umber was unique in Canada. My Retain ID had to be changed because someone else (probably an American) already was using my Man Number to LOGON. Regards, David On 2023-07-14 09:45, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 06:43:49 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: EEOC is an American thing. In

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

Hi Brian, One of my customers decided (many years ago) to upgrade software/apply maintenance once a year (on each of their 4 complexes). There are not enough weekends in the year to do this more frequently (due to other groups doing upgrades and "blocked out" weekends). Regards, David On 2023

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

Hi Tom, Can you workload shift running Jobs from one LPAR to another? (Please note too this customer's Initiator setup is different on every LPAR.) Regards, David On 2023-07-18 09:52, Tom Marchant wrote: In a Sysplex environment it is possible to shift the workload off of one system so that

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch

Hi Binyamin AMV"SH, Please see CBT File 452 (and 797). Regards, David On 2023-07-18 11:49, Binyamin Dissen wrote: I am trying to do the equivalent of TSOLIB for BATCH, i.e., dynamically adding loadlibs. I do not have spare parent tasks that I can hang a JLB DCB. It appears that the system is v

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch

Hi Pete, You said: "...Certainly there is nothing that is supported (and that likely includes whatever TSOLIB does ..." It seems as if you're saying that TSOLIB (distributed with z/OS) is potentially not supported. Did I misunderstand? Please explain. Thanks and regards, David On 2023-07-19 0

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch

Hi Jim, Why is "STEPLIB" dangerous? Please explain in detail. Thanks and regards, David On 2023-07-19 13:49, Jim Mulder wrote: Yes, TSOLIB is part of TSO/E and is correctly implemented by ATTACHing subsequent commands with a TASKLIB. The TSO/E developer who was designing TSOLIB wanted to

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch

Hi Paul, You said: "...What is the motivation for using CBT 452 STEPLIB, ever? Should CBT withdraw 452 from circulation? ..." The CBT Tape is useful for programming techniques, even if the code isn't actually used. No, it should not be withdrawn. Are you trying to censor it? Regards, David

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

Hi Phil, z/VM has ALWAYS (since VM R6.0.) had the CONSOLE at 009 in the Directory entry for users by convention. You could DEF 9 3E1 to change it. Regards, David On 2023-07-25 12:00, Phil Smith III wrote: Jon Perryman wrote: Steve says there is 1 exception to the hardware console requiring V

Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

Hi Michael, You said: "...CICS is to IMS as Windows 3.1 is to Windows 10. ..." You're comparing apples and oranges. (CICS has no native Database portion.) BTW, a lot of the banks, insurance companies etc. are running CICS+DB2. The majority of IMS users need it to support 40+ year old application

Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

lf Of David Spiegel Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 11:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives Hi Michael, You said: "...CICS is to IMS as Windows 3.1 is to Windows 10. ..." You're comparing apples and o

Re: Apply job failed GIM240001E for connect direct 6.2

Hi Satish, Please concatenate 'DGA.SDGAMAC'  or equivalent (listed under SDGAMAC Target Zone DDDEF) to Target Zone SYSLIB DDDEF and retry. Regards, David On 2023-07-25 08:10, Sathish Kumar wrote: Hi, I have updated SYSLIB CONCAT SYS1.MODGEN and rerun the job it's failed with same error. Tha

Re: Apply job failed GIM240001E for connect direct 6.2

: Hi David, I have already tried to add SYSLIB CONCAT to SDGAMAC and run this job it's failed with same error. Thanks. On Tue, 25 Jul, 2023, 11:47 pm David Spiegel, < 0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Satish, Please concatenate 'DGA.SDGAMAC'

Re: Apply job failed GIM240001E for connect direct 6.2

On Tue, 25 Jul, 2023, 11:47 pm David Spiegel, < 0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Satish, Please concatenate 'DGA.SDGAMAC' or equivalent (listed under SDGAMAC Target Zone DDDEF) to Target Zone SYSLIB DDDEF and retry. Regards, David On 2023-07-25 08:10

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

Hi Jon, You said: "...Detaching a "console" requires a "DEFINE CONSOLE" ..." AFAIK, (since VM R6.0) this statement has never been true. Regards, David On 2023-07-26 23:37, Jon Perryman wrote: > On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 07:14:21 PM PDT, Steve Horein wrote: Just out of curiosity, is ther

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

Hi Jon, A SPECIAL (in the directory) can also be DETACHd. Regards, David On 2023-07-27 20:51, Jon Perryman wrote: > On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 04:03:52 PM PDT, David Spiegel wrote: You said: "...Detaching a "console" requires a "DEFINE CONSOLE" ..." AFAI

Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx

Hi, Does anyone know how to access the JCL SET variables from Rexx. Thanks in advance, David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAI

Re: Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx

Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 1:58:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 17:11:08 +, David Spiegel wrote: > >Does anyone know how to access the JCL SET variables from

Re: Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx

ERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx David, So this is not a run time issue, but a scan of a jcl before submition? ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM coming soon * On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at

Re: Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx

UA.EDU Subject: Re: Accessing JCL SETs in Rexx On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 19:21:27 +, David Spiegel wrote: > >My intention is to read a Job and make sure that all datasets are available, >but, the dsnames contain SET variables. > By "read a Job" do you mean that JCL resides in a fil

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

Hi Bill, AFAIK, this forum is not for discussing US politics. If it were, I would retort. Regards, David On 2023-08-08 10:48, Bill Johnson wrote: I have many times. And heading to Spain in October. Funny story, we went to Switzerland right after trump got elected. Many people asked us WTF are

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, +3 ... for Canada's PM. Regards, David On 2023-08-08 11:18, Seymour J Metz wrote: It was obvious in 2016, but we don't have a monopoly on electing bad leaders. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Main

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

Hi Bill, Here is a quote from Blazing Saddles: "Lozim Geiyen". If you're so enthralled with Europe why not just leave already and stop torturing yourself in this deplorable continent? Regards, David On 2023-08-08 10:38, Bill Johnson wrote: You’re right, Europe is different. They actually care

Re: USS Features

Hi Jon, You said: "...Programmers leave z/OS for Unix in order to be in full control. Why do you think it's difficult to get z/OS programmers. ..." I've been doing MVS Systems Programming  for 40+ years and have not once heard any  programmer leave for more control. Could this be a west-coast sp

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

Hi Bill, You said: "... Cain & Abel which is fictional. ..." Do you have proof for this assertion? Regards, David On 2023-08-14 20:02, Bill Johnson wrote: I worked with many brilliant computer people over the years. I also worked with people like most of the usual posters here. People who got

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

erders and sedentary farmers. The Academic theologian Joseph Blenkinsopp holds that Cain and Abel are symbolic rather than real. And Noah never collected 2 of every species. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, August 14, 2023, 9:12 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@list

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

e as one of various ancient origin myths. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, August 14, 2023, 9:12 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Bill, You said: "... Cain & Abel which is fictional. ..." Do you have proof for this assertion?

Re: Has anyone

Hi David, I learned VIM because my job was expanded to add responsibility for Linux and AIX software installation and maintenance. (I am no expert, but), ISPF Edit has the ability to do an an intelligent change where changing A to AB (or vice versa) it tries to keep the rest of the line the way

Re: Generating WTO Messages to do message suppression

Hi Mark, Another possibility ... Run DFSMSdss (ADRDSSU)and use the WTO/WTOR Command. Regards,. David On 2023-08-21 12:40, Mark Regan wrote: Is there a way to generate WTO messages via a batch job to check message suppression? At my last site, where we had NetView, we used a CLIST (or was it REX

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

Hi Tom, "... And what was that option so it didn't read/write each PDS directory entry separately and take all day?  ..." DIS (Directories in Storage) Please see: GC28-0673-6 OS/VS System Modification Program (SMP) System Programmer's Guide (prycroft6.com.au)

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

Hi Phil, You said: "...&HLQ. as literal is never valid in those places, ..." You've made an incorrect assumption. If the user codes: // EXPORT SYMLIST=* // SET HLQ=SYSX // EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSIN DD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY  DEL &HLQ..DATA This will work. Regards, David On 2023-08-24 15:35, Phil Smith

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

Hi Phil, I beg to differ. You can use SET at the top of every Job to set ALL variables (as my previous email said). Can you please give me an example of what you're saying. Another thing ... Do you remember IPOUPDTE? (It was a batch "editor" to change all of the HLQ from ABC to DEF. This could

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

Hi Phil, Maybe the "***NOTE***" was written before the advent of the EXPORT Statement. Had the //SMPCNTL been written with "&" instead of "!...", the substitutions could be done via EXPORT, SET and SYMBOLS=JCLONLY. Here is a possible solution: // EXPORT SYMLIST=* // SET HLQ=SYSX // SET VOLSER=

Re: "XYZZY"?

Hi Brian, You said: "...(when your really bored) ..." *you're Regards, David I On 2023-08-25 00:41, Brian Westerman wrote: I hear a bunch of odd ways people pronounce our company name "Syzygy", a lot of them put an "R" in there at the middle and some have it start with a "Z", and some get more

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

Hi Phil, You said: "...The SYMBOLS= stuff might help here ..." "might"??? -- No! ... "will" Here is another one you might like. (I use it to rename Cataloged Procedures during software upgrades.) //  EXPORT SYMLIST=* // SET DSN=my.PROCLIB // SET VOLUME=xx // SET

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

Hi Jon, You said: "...The M in SMP/e stands for Maintenance ..." This statement has NEVER been true. The M is an abbreviation of Modification and it has ALWAYS been this way. Regards, David On 2023-08-25 21:55, Jon Perryman wrote: On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:57:33 AM PDT, Steve Thompson

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

Hi Jon, Another misspeak ... You said: " ...You never see a PTF that is 1MB. ..." I've seen PTFs that are a lot bigger than 1 Mb. Regards, David On 2023-08-25 21:55, Jon Perryman wrote: On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:57:33 AM PDT, Steve Thompson wrote: With Linux distros there are a few m

Re: "XYZZY"?

Hi David, Fo'  "shizzy" {;-}-> Regards, David On 2023-08-27 01:59, David Cole wrote: For 50 years, I've always used the five syllable pronunciation. Dave Cole At 8/24/2023 05:21 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: It's only just now occurring to me to wonder:  How should "XYZZY" be pronounced?  I've alw

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

ations (hardware or software) may provide different availability characteristics." Could it be that Jon Perryman is actually Bill Johnson in disguise, using ChatGPT to compose his posts? Does he have a Linkedin profile where we can read he's credentials? On 8/26/2023 7:31 PM, David

Re: On-Prem to Cloud Mainframe Migration Experiences

Clearly? ... If a few know-it-alls would stop spewing their hot air illogical theories, the temperature might come down a bit. On 2023-08-30 09:18, Bill Johnson wrote: Wow, clearly global warming is fact while there is zero evidence of any gods in the history of the world. Sent from Yahoo Ma

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

Hi Michael, What about //JOBLIB? ... That is not in any Step. Regards, David On 2023-08-31 15:16, Schmitt, Michael wrote: It they had used DD, imagine all the customer code that would break that parses JCL looking for DDs, and never expects to see a DD outside of a step. And all the code that

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

Hi Bill, More nonsense! If you were to support Exits and redo them when necessary, you wouldn't be making such broad generalizations. Regards, David On 2023-09-01 10:43, Bill Johnson wrote: Which proves my point from a prior thread that coding and using assembler is almost nonexistent. Sen

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

HI Bill, More vacuous and specious arguments. You said: "... In fact, making changes to delivered software can be dangerous. ..." Writing/modifying Exits is not the same as your statement. It is evident from what you've written, that you've never been a Systems Programmer, the highest mainfra

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

mpanies, and have a Math & Computer Science degree. Not the idiotic 2 year tech degree that many colleges created to fast track kids into a burgeoning IT industry. But keep trying to downplay me idiot. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, September 3, 2023, 5:24 PM, David Spiegel

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

Hi Steve, It won't. The first executable statement is missing a comma between operands. Regards, David On 2023-09-05 11:43, Steve Thompson wrote: I doubt it will assemble. And even if it does, the results are unpredictable, other than it will probably ABEND for one reason or another. There

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

e question. So that cut and paste isn’t a factor. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 12:02 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Steve, It won't. The first executable statement is missing a comma between operands. Re

Re: Ray Mullins on Assembler demand.

Hi Ray, You said: "... SAMPLIB(IEEACTRT) ..." Don't you mean SAMPLIB(SMFEXITS) //IEFACTRT? (IEEx is Console-related; IEFx is SMF-related) Regards, David On 2023-09-05 13:23, M. Ray Mullins wrote: There's a bit of context that is lost here. I purposely said "invisible hand", playing on t

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

Hi Tom, It looks like ChatGPT is not aware of "Housekeeping". Regards, David On 2023-09-05 13:47, Tom Brennan wrote: GET and PUT use R14, so as Tom Marchant said, if the program managed to get that far it would never return to the OS. On 9/5/2023 10:21 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 5 Sep

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

Hi Tom, +1 You forget that it took Bill and 2 colleagues to modify IEFUSI. Regards, David On 2023-09-05 20:21, Tom Brennan wrote: Oh that's funny!  Then what are these notes from you I found in my trash folder?  Sounds like you were sure it would assemble and run perfectly, and also be able to

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

Hi Bill, You said: "...Your comprehension of basic English are terrible. ..." Doorknob, it should have been "is terrible". Another case of the pot calling the kettle black. Open mouth, change feet. Regards, David On 2023-09-05 20:46, Bill Johnson wrote: I never once said it would assemble or r

Re: Next SMP/E question

Hi Phil, That is true provided the DDDEFs are instead coded as JCL. Regards, David On 2023-09-05 20:47, Phil Smith III wrote: Mark Jacobs wrote: Apply check doesn't open any target traditional datasets, or Unix System Services paths, so it's WAD. Whether it should is a different question. And

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

for the grim reaper to arrive. And the dinosaurs here trying so hard to not become extinct. Notice how the 20-30 experts can’t say, Bill Johnson is right. Because it makes them wrong and narcissists don’t like saying they were wrong. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 5

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

Hi Bill, You said: "... because it used less resources ..." Shmegegge, you should've said "fewer". That is the correct usage. For a guy who knows so much about about a multitude of topics, it behooves you to write more correctly. It might even increase your credibility. Regards, David On 2023-

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

n Algebra and Geometry. Early 70’s. I still have the awards program. I’m very proud of it and my Math expertise paid off handsomely. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 7, 2023, 6:50 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Bill, Yo

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 7, 2023, 6:50 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Bill, You said: "... because it used less resources ..." Shmegegge, you should've said "fewer". That is the correct usage. For a guy who

Re: Ray Mullins on Assembler demand.

Hi Tony, W2=T4. Regards, David From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tony Harminc Sent: September 8, 2023 4:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Ray Mullins on Assembler demand. On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 14:40, Steve Thompson wrote: > > Fr

Re: What became of "mutually exclusive"?

Hi Gil, You said: "...I recall seeing in days of your ..." My? ... My what? {;}-> ? I think that you meant "yore" instead of "your", n'est-ce pas? Regards, David On 2023-09-11 14:21, Paul Gilmartin wrote: In the JCL Ref, I recall seeing in days of your a matrix of mutually exclusive parameters

Re: AI expert hot new position.

Hi Bill, Your claim of salary being equal to real SysProgs does not categorically prove that Assembler is useless. It is very easy to destroy this vacuous argument. Let's say you were employed in New York and your colleague (Assembler expert) was employed in West Virginia. In this case, you mi

Re: AI expert hot new position.

Hi Bill, Nice job cherry picking. Since you don't know Assembler, here is a fact you are (willfully) omitting. PL/S, PL/X, PL/AS etc. has never been been made available to all IBM customers. (I know that select customers have successfully obtained a licence.) Unless one works at IBM, there is s

Re: AI expert hot new position.

Hi Jon, In one paragraph, you're talking about application code. In another paragraph, you're discussing system-level  programming. My argument has nothing to do with application code; I've always maintained that application code should be written in a High Level Language. As to your second para

Re: AI expert hot new position.

Hi Jon, Now that you've mentioned DB2, please tell me how to write/maintain a DB2 Secondary Authorization Exit WITHOUT Assembler. Next time my customer asks me to amend it, I will be sure to give them your answer. (I added logic to it to allow Informatica to authenticate via ACF2.) Regards,.

Re: AI expert hot new position.

most never happen. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 8:53 AM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Jon, Now that you've mentioned DB2, please tell me how to write/maintain a DB2 Secondary Authorization Exit WITHOUT As

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

Yours included? On 2023-09-14 13:29, Bill Johnson wrote: AI will surpass human intelligence. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/14/softbanks-masayoshi-son-says-tech-can-surpass-human-intelligence.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / s

Re: PL/X

Hi Peter, There is another solution ... make PL/ available especially to students/enthusiasts/hobbyists. While doing that, provide an "amateur" version of z/OS for the same crowd and allow *anyone* to run it on Hercules (or equivalent) on Intel/AMD hardware. It's not yet (but almost) too la

Re: PL/X

Hi Peter, I was generalizing the problem. Allowing access to PL/ wouyld also solve the lack of PDFs. This reminds me of a joke. Q: What does IBM Stand for? A: Ich Bin M'shugoh Regards, David On 2023-09-30 08:18, Peter Relson wrote: There is another solution What are you thinking the "pr

Re: Utility to Read from JES2 spool

Hi Wayne, That's the command I learned in the mid-'70s before I had access to SPF. I've also used it at DR Sites when one or more PDSs in one or more of my ISPF concatenations has not yet been restored, leaving me stuck in TSO. Regards, David On 2023-09-30 04:59, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: For D

Re: Creating USSMSG10 ASM code from Screen text using CLIST or REXX

Hi Tom, "... at least one terminal emulator ..."=Vista? Thanks and regards, David On 2023-10-06 02:51, Tom Brennan wrote: This isn't the answer you're looking for, but what I do is create an ISPF panel with the screen image and fields and colors that I want, then I use ISPF 7.2 to display the

Re: Israel

+1 On 2023-10-10 13:08, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: It is not unreasonable to be concerned about the health and safety of the community here. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com/ Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character

Combine Multiple SORTs into One Step

Hi, I have a Job with 5 SORT STEPs. I would like to combine them into one STEP. Here is one of the STEPs: //STEP001 EXEC PGM=SORT //SYSOUT   DD  SYSOUT=* //SORTMSG  DD  SYSOUT=* //SORTIN   DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYSA.XML //SYSB DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYSB.XML //SYSIN    DD  *    OPTION COPY    INREC  FIN

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