Hi Bill,
You said: "...Noah never collected 2 of every species. .."
That is close to what the Bible says, but is inaccurate.
Please see GE 7:2
(The verse says Noah was commanded to take 7 (possibly 14) of each species of "clean" animals. (The Hebrew word טְּהוֹרָ֗ does not translate to English. It is usually translated as clean, which although close is incorrect.)

Regards,
David

On 2023-08-14 21:16, Bill Johnson wrote:
Yes I do.

It has also been seen as a depiction of nomadic conflict, the struggle for land 
and resources (and divine favour) between nomadic herders and sedentary 
farmers. The Academic theologian Joseph Blenkinsopp holds that Cain and Abel 
are symbolic rather than real.
And Noah never collected 2 of every species.


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On Monday, August 14, 2023, 9:12 PM, David Spiegel 
<00000468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Hi Bill,
You said: "... Cain & Abel which is fictional. ..."
Do you have proof for this assertion?

Regards,
David

On 2023-08-14 20:02, Bill Johnson wrote:
I worked with many brilliant computer people over the years. I also worked with 
people like most of the usual posters here. People who got into IT because they 
were white and breathing. Many from the military. Ask 10 posters here a 
question and you get 4-5 different answers and every poster thinks his answer 
is absolute. There are literally thousands of mainframe system programmers, yet 
the 20-30 here will swear because their tiny shop eliminated the mainframe, 
mainframes are dying. Even when faced with facts that say otherwise. Plus, the 
security on the platform is unmatched. Hackers would love to be able to hack 
the mainframe since that’s where the money is. Banks being the big one.

I notice Bob Bridges listed these. “Did we learnanything from the Korean 
conflict, from the American civil war, the 100 Years' war, the Peloponnesian 
war, from Cain vs Abel?”

I’m shocked Bob didn’t mention the Crusades. Where “pro life Christians” massacred 
hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions over 200 years. But did mention Cain 
& Abel which is fictional.


Retirement is wonderful. I no longer have to deal with coworkers who can barely 
breathe and chew gum.


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On Monday, August 14, 2023, 7:37 PM, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com> wrote:

A bigger head beats a bigger mouth every time. Johnson by name Johnson by
nature.

Yeah, I found this on the internet too:

Noun[edit
<https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=johnson&action=edit&section=4>]

*johnson* (*plural* *johnsons
<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/johnsons#English>*)

     1. (slang <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#slang>) Penis
     <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/penis>. quotations ▼synonym ▲Synonyms:
     *see* Thesaurus:penis <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Thesaurus:penis>


On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:33 AM Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com> wrote:

Way to miss the point Bill. Do you write programs that miss out things
because they can be easily found on the internet?

On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:23 AM Bill Johnson <
00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

https://www.itprotoday.com/compute-engines/windows-nt-and-vms-rest-story




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On Monday, August 14, 2023, 7:17 PM, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Windows NT came from the VAX guys, I think.

On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:15 AM Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

*The facts. According to Bill Johnson.American computer programmer
Timothy
Paterson, a developer for Seattle Computer Products, wrote the original
operating system for the Intel Corporation’s 8086 microprocessor in
1980,
initially calling it QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System), which was
soon renamed 86-DOS. A year later, fledgling company Microsoft
purchased exclusive rights to sell the system, renamed MS-DOS, to IBM
for
their newly developed IBM-PC. IBM-compatible versions were marketed as
PC-DOS. Version 1.0 was released in 1981; additional upgraded versions
kept
pace with the rapidly evolving PC. Windows 95, introduced by Microsoft
in
1995, incorporated MS-DOS 7.0 but ultimately superseded the MS-DOS
platform. Starting with Windows NT, Microsoft’s operating systems were
designed independently of MS-DOS, though they were capable of running
some
MS-DOS applications.*

Facts but missing lots of pivotal events. No mention of Gary Kildall.
Windows 2.0 was a brief look at a Windows O/S. Windows 3.0 preceded WIN
95
as did Windows 3.1.

Really who cares?


On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:09 AM Jon Perryman <jperr...@pacbell.net>
wrote:
     > On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 03:15:12 PM PDT, Grant Taylor wrote:

On 8/14/23 3:16 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:

My hang up is that -- as I understand it -- DOS was /never/ IBM's to
start with.

DOS was /Microsoft's.
Again, if you want some insights, you can watch
https://youtu.be/Qc5khH5gllg?t=339 that seems to be the prevalent
story.
Is this different from the story as you understand it?

1. MS-DOS did not exist prior to IBM / Bill Gates meeting.

2. IBM wanted a new OS. IBM contractred Gates to create this OS which
was
to be called PC DOS.

3. Because IBM was gun shy from anti-trust lawsuits, it chose to
exclude
ownership of PC DOS thus allowing PC-DOS to be sold as MS-DOS by
Microsoft.
Microsoft was not the sole owner of DOS. One piece of software was
owned
by IBM and Microsoft. It was IBM's choice not to retain sole ownership
of
DOS.






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