Re: Explanation of TCBPFK

2025-01-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
I must have missed the PIC 4. Sorry. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lennie Bradshaw Sent: Monday, January 27, 2025 7:20 A

Re: [EXTERNAL] ADRDSSU DUMP/RESTORE

2025-01-27 Thread Pommier, Rex
Does the EMC software have an equivalent option to ADRDSSU COPY DUMPCONDITIONING parameter? At my last job we did something similar, but using ADRDSSU all the way thru. The COPY step with DUMPCOND would perform the full volume copy, but leave the VTOC and VVS names with the original volser. T

Re: ADRDSSU DUMP/RESTORE

2025-01-27 Thread Glenn Wilcock
It's pretty simple if you are only using the snap to create a full volume dump and you can use FlashCopy instead of snap. (Not sure if there is a separate license on the EMC box for this). DSS COPY FULL with DUMPCONDITIONING will copy the source volser and put it on the target volume such that

Re: Explanation of TCBPFK

2025-01-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
ATTACH KEY=PROP | ZERO Note the restrictions in MVS Programming: Authorized Assembler Services Reference, Volume 1 (ALE-DYN), SA23-1372-60, for the privileged options. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר _

Re: Explanation of TCBPFK

2025-01-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
To clarify, an S0C4 can have any of the interrupt codes 4, 10, 11, 2B, 38, 39, 3A, 3B, and only 4 can relate to the protection key. Does anybody have any statistics on the relative frequencies of S0C4 IC 4 for key mismatch, fetch protect, low storage protect, page protect and segment protect?

Re: AT-TLS FTP to RedHat 9 wsftp server

2025-01-27 Thread Charles Mills
> The client sends some cipher data and then immediately gets a 5003 failure > because the response comes back as clear text rather than encrypted. Sounds like perhaps a mis-match between implicit and explicit FTP? Is the server expecting 'AUTH TLS' before going to encrypted, and not getting it?

Re: Explanation of TCBPFK

2025-01-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Strangely enough, PIC-5 was not wrapped into 0C4. Of course, PIC-5 cannot occur with DAT (unless, I guess, the page or segment table entry points to non-existant storage). On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 11:33:42 + Seymour J Metz wrote: :>To clarify, an S0C4 can have any of the interrupt codes 4, 10,

Re: Explanation of TCBPFK

2025-01-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I would never use zero as it is fraught with dangers. Key0 is much more dangerous than supervisor state. So I never thought of it. So it looks like key 0 is a special case for a subtask. On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 11:15:58 + Seymour J Metz wrote: :>ATTACH KEY=PROP | ZERO :> :>Note the restrictions

Re: OMVS

2025-01-27 Thread Rick Troth
I don't recall if OMVS ever included the Korn shell. Haven't paid close enough attention. >  (C) Copyright *Mortice Kern* Systems, Inc., 1985, 1996. The Mortice Kern Toolkit (MKS Toolkit) was also available for Windoze in those days, an excellent "front" on an otherwise non-POSIX system, very

Re: Explanation of TCBPFK

2025-01-27 Thread Joseph Reichman
It’s time to FESS up I got this running under TESTAUTH trying to implement TRAP2 I moved the address of the trap control block at X’2C’ bit 0 of this address was zero at bit 31 I turned that on to enable trap I was in key zero supervisor state Does it matter that the TCB it was running under had

Re: Explanation of TCBPFK

2025-01-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
Storage protection uses the key in the PSW. The key in the TCB is relevant when you use supervisor linkage, e.g., LINK, SYNCH. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainf

Re: z/OS 2.1 & 2.2 on z16?

2025-01-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
The listserv web->mail processing obscures the e-mail address. That doesn't affect those who read from the web interface. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe

Re: z/OS 2.1 & 2.2 on z16?

2025-01-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
It doesn't help that m$ lookout doesn't display message headers, although if you jump through hoops you can view the original message. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From:

Is the STIMERM ID= guaranteed to be unique within the task?

2025-01-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Assuming less than 4G issuances. -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listse

RES: Mainframe physical tape backup

2025-01-27 Thread Bodra - Pessoal
Hi Peter, I can´t answer this question about DLM8500. We use Luminex MVTe solution. Sorry Carlos Bodra IBM zEnterprise Certified São Paulo – SP – Brazil -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Em nome de Peter Enviada em: segunda-feira, 27 de janeiro de 2025 01:37 Para: I

Re: Explanation of TCBPFK

2025-01-27 Thread Lennie Bradshaw
I am bit confused here Shmuel. The OP stated in the first line that this was a SOC4 pic 4. So why the discussion on all the other program interrupt codes (pic) that can produce a SOC4? Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: 27 J

Re: Explanation of TCBPFK

2025-01-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
It's a matter of statistics. While I have seen real live 0004 S0C4 AENDs, they have been far less frequent than the interrupt codes associated with translation, so look at the interrupt code before worrying about the key. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל

Re: OMVS

2025-01-27 Thread René Jansen
An "echo $0" on MVS 5.2.2 yields "-sh". I guess it is a bourne shell. echo -n "hello" -n hello Also indicates a strict bourne shell. I remember later tcsh becoming available for USS and much, much later bash. best, René. > On 27 Jan 2025, at 14:33, Rick Troth > <058ff5c2d0a7-dmarc-r

Re: z/OS 2.1 & 2.2 on z16?

2025-01-27 Thread Tony Harminc
On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 at 17:14, Brian Westerman <06ba4ed225c9-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I got an email from Peter that shows that some users don't get to see the ID, > so I'll put mine here, but formatted so that AI will ahve a harder time > scraping it for use > > Brian(undersc

Re: Mainframe physical tape backup

2025-01-27 Thread Peter
We are looking for on premises and ejectable tape solution On Mon, 27 Jan 2025, 11:23 Tomer Zelberzvig, < 059ecf7fe8fe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Hello Peter, > > I'm not sure about your exact use case, but you can use BMC AMI Cloud with > our Cloud Data Sets feature to send your

Re: Explanation of TCBPFK

2025-01-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
How did you get the DUCT address? On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 13:37:00 + Joseph Reichman <05812645a43c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: :>It’s time to FESS up I got this running under TESTAUTH trying to implement TRAP2 :> :>I moved the address of the trap control block at X’2C’ bit 0 of thi

VPS STC run as a batch job

2025-01-27 Thread rpinion865
We are having a problem getting a VPS instance to run. We have been on the phone with LRS for over 4 hours. As a trial error, we tried running the VPS as a batch job. It stayed up. Our VPS support person, who in my opinion is not very technical, stated that VPS must be run as a STC. Would anyone

Re: Is the STIMERM ID= guaranteed to be unique within the task?

2025-01-27 Thread James Mulder
Other than 4G wrap, STIMERM ID= is unique within the z/OS image. Jim Mulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Monday, January 27, 2025 11:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is the STIMERM ID= guaranteed to be unique

CFP: 36th International Rexx Language Symposium, Vienna, 4-7 May, 2025

2025-01-27 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
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Re: Is the STIMERM ID= guaranteed to be unique within the task?

2025-01-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 13:43:40 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: >Assuming less than 4G issuances. > When would it matter? Are you adding different tiny increments to various comparator values and depending on the order of completion? Is the comparator sensitive to the ID value? -- gil --

Re: VPS STC run as a batch job

2025-01-27 Thread rpinion865
For what it is worth, we are running VPS, PGM=VP12DRIV, as a batch job and we appear to be back in business. Our VPS support person is still waiting for a response from LRS concerning the failure, when running as a STC. "Confidentially doc, I am the wabbit." Bugs Bunny Sent with Proton Mail

Re: Explanation of TCBPFK

2025-01-27 Thread Joseph Reichman
STCBDUCV. Should I have used control register 2 I knew I would be running in TCB mode Thanks > On Jan 27, 2025, at 10:46 AM, Binyamin Dissen > <0662573e2c3a-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > How did you get the DUCT address? > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 13:37:00 + Joseph Reichm

Re: VPS STC run as a batch job

2025-01-27 Thread Jousma, David
What error do you get when starting as a STC? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of rpinion865 <042a019916dd-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Monday, January 27, 2025 at 12:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: VPS STC run as a batch job We are having a problem get

Re: VPS STC run as a batch job

2025-01-27 Thread rpinion865
Very helpful ABEND S0C4 following by SA03. "Confidentially doc, I am the wabbit." Bugs Bunny Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Monday, January 27th, 2025 at 12:24 PM, Jousma, David <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > What error do you get when starting as a STC? >

Re: CBTView ISPF Dialog - quick survey/question

2025-01-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 14:59:43 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >CBTview does not cache any information so while etag may be good it >isn't something i can use at this time. > Do you not cache those file dates? >> >> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 14:30:02 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >> >> >wget could work for t

Re: Mainframe physical tape backup

2025-01-27 Thread carl swanson
Since a reply has not been given do the DLM question about tape drive attachment, I will provide it. This is no longer a supported option on the DLm and never for some reason on the DLM8500 even though the hardware to do so is present. Please note the words no longer supported. For those

Re: VPS STC run as a batch job

2025-01-27 Thread Jousma, David
What changed in the environment to cause this? Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of rpinion865 <042a019916dd-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Monday, January 27, 2025 at 1:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU S

Re: VPS STC run as a batch job

2025-01-27 Thread rpinion865
That is the 64 dollar question. We did IPL this past weekend. But we have not changed anything (I know, famous last words). "Confidentially doc, I am the wabbit." Bugs Bunny Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Monday, January 27th, 2025 at 2:05 PM, Jousma, David <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc

Re: AT-TLS FTP to RedHat 9 wsftp server

2025-01-27 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/27/2025 5:23 AM, Charles Mills wrote: The client sends some cipher data and then immediately gets a 5003 failure because the response comes back as clear text rather than encrypted. Sounds like perhaps a mis-match between implicit and explicit FTP? Is the server expecting 'AUTH TLS' befor

Re: Is the STIMERM ID= guaranteed to be unique within the task?

2025-01-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 10:31:54 -0600 Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: :>On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 13:43:40 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: :>>Assuming less than 4G issuances. :>When would it matter? Are you adding different tiny increments :>to various comparator va

Re: VPS STC run as a batch job

2025-01-27 Thread Mike Schwab
You might include a JOB card in the proclib to override any needed values, like region, TIME=1440, etc. On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 11:51 AM rpinion865 < 042a019916dd-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > For what it is worth, we are running VPS, PGM=VP12DRIV, as a batch job and > we > appear t

Re: VPS STC run as a batch job

2025-01-27 Thread rpinion865
That is something to be investigated. Running as a STC, we get LRS1050W messages, some thing to do with cell pools, CSRPGET Allocate a cell pool. Running as a batch job, we do not get that message and we are able to print. "Confidentially doc, I am the wabbit." Bugs Bunny Sent with Proto

Re: VPS STC run as a batch job

2025-01-27 Thread Randy Baumgarte
No idea if this is related, but I ran into a weird issue where a task would run as a batch job but not a started task. It ended up being an SMF exit (IEFUSI?) limiting the memory for started tasks, but not caring about the batch job. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion Li

Re: VPS STC run as a batch job

2025-01-27 Thread Mike Schwab
An update to the operating system could have slightly increased its memory use, and VPS's memory got reduced a slight amount, causing the error. On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 12:08 PM rpinion865 < 042a019916dd-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > That is something to be investigated. Running as

Re: AT-TLS FTP to RedHat 9 wsftp server -- SOLVED!!!

2025-01-27 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/26/2025 9:08 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: I fell back to TLS 1.2 support only. No more TLS 1.3. This time the client sends secp256r1 (0023) for the initial handshake encryption, which I found puzzling. My understanding was that only TLS 1.3 encrypted the initial handshake, but whatevs. At least t

Re: CBTView ISPF Dialog - quick survey/question

2025-01-27 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Only when the file is downloaded from the updates directory is the information kept. On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 11:31 AM Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 14:59:43 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: > > >CBTview does not cache any information so

Re: VPS STC run as a batch job

2025-01-27 Thread rpinion865
Like I said, famous last words, no changes to the system. "Confidentially doc, I am the wabbit." Bugs Bunny Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Monday, January 27th, 2025 at 2:24 PM, Mike Schwab <05962a42dc49-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > An update to the operating system c

Re: Is the STIMERM ID= guaranteed to be unique within the task?

2025-01-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 18:14:43 +, James Mulder wrote: > Other than 4G wrap, STIMERM ID= is unique within the z/OS image. > This implies that from any starting point the sequence of IDs returned by STIMERM is strictly periodic with a period or 4G Should this guarantee be documented in:

Re: Is the STIMERM ID= guaranteed to be unique within the task?

2025-01-27 Thread James Mulder
The only requirement is that it be unique within the task, and that is all that we would ever consider documenting. If we ever needed to worry about the 4G wrap, or a hot cache line updating the current system wide count, the solution would be to go to an address space count in the ASSB or a

Re: Mainframe physical tape backup

2025-01-27 Thread Mike Schwab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPcm7-KvytI 6 carbon fiber bicycle parts that wear out quickly or fail catastrophically. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPcm7-KvytI On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:57 PM kekronbekron < 02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Apologies, I didn't mean tha

Re: Mainframe physical tape backup

2025-01-27 Thread kekronbekron
Apologies, I didn't mean that as a jab. Brought it up because everything they do needs to be Carbon these days (I'm guessing). And to be honest, when done right, it looks *great*... Like https://developer.ibm.com/tutorials/mq-running-ibm-mq-apps-on-quarkus-and-graalvm-using-qpid-amqp-jms-classes

Re: VPS STC run as a batch job

2025-01-27 Thread Brian Westerman
Someone could have changed the location of some control blocks in parmlib and now they are in 64bit areas. Or someone could have added the TIOT constraint relief stuff or any of several other "minor" parm changes that upset where VPS is able to touch things. It could also be that the VPS softw