Re: AutoIPL

2025-01-10 Thread Tom Brennan
The only problem I remember was a Dev system early morning auto IPL that we didn't even notice until maybe a day later. I think after that we started a task at IPL time that sent us an email. On 1/10/2025 11:05 AM, David Purdy wrote: The only problem with Autoipl is if an LPAR abends, it ke

Re: AutoIPL

2025-01-10 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
I think there is some misunderstanding. I started using it long time ago. Last time I used it yesterday. BTW: I created ad-hoc DIAGxx member to IPL from different sysres device, new OS level. BTW2: Loong (even longer) time ago I was the first person in a shop who logged on to HMC remotely,

Re: AutoIPL

2025-01-10 Thread Albertus de Wet
I would also like to do this. Any chance you can share the parms in DIAGxx that are needed for this? I tried it a while back, but must have missed something, obvious, obviously. On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 2:42 PM Radoslaw Skorupka < 0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I think th

Re: Bye all

2025-01-10 Thread David Crayford
The large insurance company in my town switched the lights off in the mainframe last month. We’re now down to 1 remaining mainframe site, a bank. When I moved here 26 years ago there were about 15 sites. I can remember the carnage of the 90s when jumping to SAP was the thing. And contrary to the

Re: Bye all

2025-01-10 Thread Charles Mills
Let me start by saying nobody loves the mainframe more than I do. The mainframe, and the mainframe software business, has been very, very good to me. That said, no matter how many times we tell smirking tales here of someone's get-off-the-mainframe project that failed or took three times as long

Re: Canonical way to limit a concatenated tape file DD to two tape drives?

2025-01-10 Thread Michael Oujesky
See UNIT=AFF At 06:02 PM 1/10/2025, Farley, Peter wrote: I have a business need to scan 15 different tape files (all the same record format, some are multi-volume) to extract relevant information, and I first tried to scan them all in one concatenated DD. I didn't specify anything but DISP an

Re: Bye all

2025-01-10 Thread Jay Maynard
I'll note here that my current employer has been in a get-off-the-mainframe posture for years and only a few months ago officially abandoned that because there's just too much institutional knowledge that is encapsulated in it. On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 6:29 PM Charles Mills wrote: > Let me start

Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF

2025-01-10 Thread Bob Bridges
Yeah, I've a REXX exec named SAYNR that does the same thing - passes a string to a CLIST that just does a WRITENR with the string. Nice, but it's not like I use it very often - not, indeed, as though it's really even necessary. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* While

Re: Canonical way to limit a concatenated tape file DD to two tape drives?

2025-01-10 Thread Mike Schwab
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=up-syntax-1 //ddname DD DISP=SHR,DSN=hlq.data.set.name1.llq, // UNIT=(tape,2) * device,count // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=hlq.data.set.name2.llq, // UNIT=AFF=ddname * repeat as needed On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 6:02 PM Farley, Peter <031df298a9da-dmarc-requ..

Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF

2025-01-10 Thread Rupert Reynolds
The one thing I missed from CLIST was the ability to run a CLIST under TEST, issue TEST commands from that CLIST, and process the output from them. Everything else I did with Rexx, or compiled code. Roops That's a bit of a niche, maybe, when there are better debuggers, but it was the only way to

Canonical way to limit a concatenated tape file DD to two tape drives?

2025-01-10 Thread Farley, Peter
I have a business need to scan 15 different tape files (all the same record format, some are multi-volume) to extract relevant information, and I first tried to scan them all in one concatenated DD. I didn't specify anything but DISP and DSN for each file in the concatenation, so I got 15 tape

Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF

2025-01-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Another reason to pick up ooRexx. BTW, TSO/E REXX does support stream I/O, but only for Eunix files. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on b

Re: [EXTERNAL] ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread Pommier, Rex
Rename one of them temporarily? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of roscoe5 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2025 8:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] ISPF Edit of same named files I want to Edit a pair of files, from Prod and Test LPARs, bot

Re: ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread Mike Schwab
Try use the VOLSER field. ISPF 3 has various ways to compare two files to show the difference. On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 8:32 AM roscoe5 <056b62686b81-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I want to Edit a pair of files, from Prod and Test LPARs, both named > SYS1.TCPPARMS(PROFILE8), concur

ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread roscoe5
I want to Edit a pair of files, from Prod and Test LPARs, both named SYS1.TCPPARMS(PROFILE8), concurrently. I’m trying to make them as consistent as possible, with a lot of minor changes to each. I have them both up in split screen (used their unique VOLSER) but I can only have one or the other

Re: ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread Lionel B Dyck
use library services to do it 1. allocate each to a unique DD 2. use lminit on each dd 3. edit each using dataid 4. lmfree each when done 5. tso free each dd rough sample Address ISPExec 'lminit dataid(ddb) ddname('ddn')' 'Edit dataid('ddb')' 'lmfree dataid('ddb')' Address TSO, 'Free f('ddn')'

Re: [EXTERNAL] ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread roscoe5
Yep, that would work! Simple solution, maybe more coffee, too. I take it that what I was trying is indeed not allowed, and I wonder why not, but case closed. Thanks! Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 9:35 AM, Pommier, Rex <[0737643a508d-dma

Re: Bye all

2025-01-10 Thread Steve Beaver
I had a customer, a mid-sized insurance company that stated in 1995 they were exiting The mainframe space. Well its 2025 and they are still on a z13 This electronic mail (including any attachments) may contain

Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF

2025-01-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
I'd probably write a subroutine to parse and expand it, bt it does seem to be a PITA. So we have DATA DATA PROMPT Expressions from external sources PROC WRITENR Anything else? --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥

Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF

2025-01-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 17:19:06 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > >It's ANSI. Why does IBM spurn standards‽ > >From Cowlishaw. Also in compiled REXX and, lately, in CMS REXX. Only if you define "lately" to mean "over 30 years ago". Stre

Re: ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread Schmitt, Michael
How does this work? I'm thinking the OP's issue is that the SPFEDIT enqueue's minor name is the library and member name, no volser. So even though they are two different libraries, the enqueue blocks the 2nd edit. In my testing, you get the same SPFEDIT enqueue when use edit using a LMINIT data

Re: ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread Lionel B Dyck
I thought it would work but when I tried I get this: Ddname allocated to member of partitioned data set is not allowed. guess my thought was a failure On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 9:39 AM Schmitt, Michael wrote: > > How does this work? I'm thinking the OP's issue is that the SPFEDIT enqueue's > mi

Re: Bye all

2025-01-10 Thread Bfishing
And while no longer active, this project from Marriott did show that Linux on z running NodeJS with MongoDB could keep up with the speeds and feeds required to replace TPF. https://www.mongodb.com/blog/post/2019-mongodb-innovation-awards-winners On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 1:40 AM Mike Schwab < 05

Re: [EXTERNAL] ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Roscoe, Edit one and View the other. Regards, David On 2025-01-10 09:39, roscoe5 wrote: Yep, that would work! Simple solution, maybe more coffee, too. I take it that what I was trying is indeed not allowed, and I wonder why not, but case closed. Thanks! Sent from [Proton Mail](https://prot

Re: ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread roscoe5
Yep, call me lazy, but temporarily renaming a member was the best answer. Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 12:02 PM, Schmitt, Michael <[michael.schm...@dxc.com](mailto:On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 12:02 PM, Schmitt, Michael < wrote: > Ah, a soluti

AutoIPL

2025-01-10 Thread Steve Beaver
How many of you have discovered the Auto IPL feature for zOS Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: [EXTERNAL] ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Roscoe, "... I’m a little surprised editing two unique files/members, coming from different VOLSERs, is a problem. ..." Dataset ENQs do not include the VOLSER. That has been a problem since the beginning. It also shows up when trying to RENAME/DELETE a Dataset (e,g, 'SYS1,LINKLIB') which r

Re: AutoIPL

2025-01-10 Thread Ituriel do Neto
Hello, It is not new and I saw it working in a production environment, saving us a lot of time. It is a nice feature. Best Regards Ituriel do Nascimento Neto z/OS System Programmer Em sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2025 às 15:12:46 BRT, Steve Beaver <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listse

Re: AutoIPL

2025-01-10 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential Discovered...Yes used (never) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Friday, January 10, 2025 12:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AutoIPL [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unles

Re: [EXTERNAL] ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread roscoe5
Yes, David, that’s what I was doing. But going back and forth, getting out of Editing one so I could edit the other, was the (relatively minor) problem. IF … if there had been an option to edit both at once, which renaming one/both supplies, that was what I was looking for. I’m a little surprised

Re: ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread Schmitt, Michael
Ah, a solution: write an Edit Interface (EDIF). Then your program is doing the I/O, and ISPF Edit isn't doing the SPFEDIT enqueue. (but writing an Edit Interface is not easy!) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B Dyck Sent: Friday, January 10, 20

Re: AutoIPL

2025-01-10 Thread Steve Beaver
I have a friend that will not use AutoIPL for God , love , or money This electronic mail (including any attachments) may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or otherwise protected from disclos

Recovery question

2025-01-10 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi I had been struggling with a estaex getting a return code of 8 until I realized that ICANNT establish estaex in that environment My question is if later after I establish the estatex recovery I go so supervisor state key zero will the recovery routine get control thanks --

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: AutoIPL

2025-01-10 Thread Wissink, Brad
Know about it and used it. prior employment we autoipl'd at 2:00 am on Sunday mornings once a month. Brad Wissink| Sr. Systems Programmer Sammons® Financial Group Member Companies 8300 Mills Civic Parkway, West Des Moines, Ia 50266 Phone 515-267-2735 | ext. 33735 | Cell: 515-231-1511 bwiss...

Re: ISPF Edit of same named files

2025-01-10 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Here is a solution: /* rexx */ 'alloc f(jcl) ds(jcl.cntl) shr reuse' address ispexec 'lminit dataid(jcl) ddname(jcl)' 'edit dataid('jcl') member($job)' 'edit dataid('jcl') member($jc)' 'lmfree dataid('jcl')' Also if renaming is the approach why not just make a copy of the member to edit and then

What do I have to do to give myself permission to write into /etc ?

2025-01-10 Thread Charles Mills
I am more of a UNIX ignoramus than I should be. What do I have to do to give myself permission to write into /etc ? Here is what /etc looks like: Filename Type Permission Audit Ext Fmat OwnerGroupLinks --- etc Dir

Re: AutoIPL

2025-01-10 Thread Steve Beaver
I'm new to the USDOJ and my lead put in an IPL request for the sandbox - No big deal. Well the operators got the system down and then auto magically the system Started coming up and I asked how?? In a no changes environment as that IPL was - it was quick - No HMC to manipulate -Origin

Re: AutoIPL

2025-01-10 Thread David Purdy
The only problem with Autoipl is if an LPAR abends, it keeps on IPLing until operations or automated process notices Happened once in five years David On Friday, January 10, 2025 at 01:33:15 PM EST, Steve Beaver <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: I'm new to the USDO

Re: What do I have to do to give myself permission to write into /etc ?

2025-01-10 Thread Charles Mills
Solved it. Made myself a member of OMVSGRP. Sorry for the disturbance to the force. CM On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:30:19 -0600, Charles Mills wrote: >I am more of a UNIX ignoramus than I should be. What do I have to do to give >myself permission to write into /etc ? > >Here is what /etc looks like

Re: What do I have to do to give myself permission to write into /etc ?

2025-01-10 Thread Shawn Prenevost
"chmod 777 /etc" will add write to everyone On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 12:30 PM Charles Mills wrote: > I am more of a UNIX ignoramus than I should be. What do I have to do to > give myself permission to write into /etc ? > > Here is what /etc looks like: > > Filename Type Permission Audit Ext Fm

Re: What do I have to do to give myself permission to write into /etc ?

2025-01-10 Thread Michael Babcock
What are the UIDs of OMVSKERN and IBMUSER? If they are not the same and IBMUSER’s UID is not 0, then IBMUSER will fall to either the group or other. You can connect IBMUSER to OMVSGRP to get RW access to /etc. If you are wanting YOUR ID to have RW access, connect yourself to OMVSGRP (or chmod

Re: What do I have to do to give myself permission to write into /etc ?

2025-01-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Add OMVSGRP to your userid. Or su. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, January 10, 2025 1:30 PM

Re: What do I have to do to give myself permission to write into /etc ?

2025-01-10 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 10.01.2025 o 19:30, Charles Mills pisze: I am more of a UNIX ignoramus than I should be. What do I have to do to give myself permission to write into /etc ? Here is what /etc looks like: Filename Type Permission Audit Ext Fmat OwnerGroupLinks -

Re: AutoIPL

2025-01-10 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 10.01.2025 o 19:12, Steve Beaver pisze: How many of you have discovered the Auto IPL feature for zOS Me. However it was looong time ago. 2016, or rather earlier. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscr

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: AutoIPL

2025-01-10 Thread Steve Beaver
We have several other LPARs but currently I am only slightly familiar (3 weeks) with the SANDBOX LPAR Thank you for your input -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Wissink, Brad Sent: Friday, January 10, 2025 12:42 P

Re: What do I have to do to give myself permission to write into /etc ?

2025-01-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 13:08:07 -0600, Shawn Prenevost wrote: >"chmod 777 /etc" will add write to everyone > If that doesn't work, try RACF UACC=ALL. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send e

Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF

2025-01-10 Thread Bill Hitefield
David, Understood. I use REXX extensively for ISPF edit macros and such. I was agreeing that there were some "nice to have things" which clist did have. When I started, clist was the only way to go. Once we were introduced to REXX, I began converting clists to EXECs, and found WRITENR was a "cl