Let me start by saying nobody loves the mainframe more than I do. The 
mainframe, and the mainframe software business, has been very, very good to me.

That said, no matter how many times we tell smirking tales here of someone's 
get-off-the-mainframe project that failed or took three times as long as 
expected, the fact is that this is a platform that it would seem that perhaps 
three out of four installations *wish* they were off of. That is not something 
that makes me proud, and I don't think it should make any of us proud. If I 
were a senior executive at IBM, it would not make me proud, and in fact would 
be a severe danger warning. The fact that there is no magic 
get-off-the-mainframe solution today does not mean that there will not be one 
tomorrow.

Charles


On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 06:05:49 +0800, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote:

>The large insurance company in my town switched the lights off in the 
>mainframe last month. We’re now down to 1 remaining mainframe site, a bank. 
>When I moved here 26 years ago there were about 15 sites. I can remember the 
>carnage of the 90s when jumping to SAP was the thing. And contrary to the 
>fluff pieces on the PlanetMainframe site those migrations did not fail. 
>
>> On 10 Jan 2025, at 22:43, Steve Beaver 
>> <0000050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> I had a customer, a mid-sized insurance company that stated in 1995 they 
>> were exiting 
>> The mainframe space.  Well its 2025 and they are still on a z13

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