I found a WLM entry for an application environment specifying the proc in
question with the following:
Starting of server address spaces for a subsystem instance:
Managed by WLM
So is this started from within WLM?
On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 03:45:09
When the owning system is removed from the sysplex is there a way to influence
which remaining systems becomes the owner of the file system? I'd like a way to
tell OMVS not to assign any automoved file systems to one specific system in
the sysplex.
Mark Jacobs
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Check the INCLUDE/EXCLUDE parameters on the MOUNT statements in BPXPRMxx
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=parameters-statements-bpxprmxx
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This link has more details about file system movement/ownership during recovery
scenarios.
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=recovery-managing-movement-data
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I grew up in Minnesota, and visited grandparents a few times every summer in
Wisconsin, which we pronounced "wih-SKAHN-sun". Then in my high-school years
we moved to Pennsylvania, where I noticed they pronounced it "wiss-KAHN-sun",
the 's' moved firmly from the second to the first syllable. I
The word you're looking for is "aspirated": you're noticing the difference
between aspirated and unaspirated /k/. In English, the two sounds are
recognized as different realizations of the same phoneme (allophonic).
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:34 AM Bob Bridges wrote:
> If you'll allow me just a b
The old OS/360 behavior for START was that the system generated a JOB card.
Somewhere in the mists of time we acquired the ability to provide complete JCL
including aShg1ah, but the old code is still there when starting a PROC. More
specifically, what START for a PROC generates is something like
Well, UK English can also get us Americans in trouble, e.g., "fanny".
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Northern ir Southern? Or is "roden" the same in both?
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Are "route" and "rut" related?
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>... aShg1ah, ...
>
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I got into trouble with the Americans ( from the days when people were
allowed to smoke in the office) in a presentation with a chart saying " 10
minute fag break"
On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 at 17:14, Seymour J Metz wrote:
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2023, at 18:04, Colin Paice wrote:
> I got into trouble with the Americans ( from the days when people were
> allowed to smoke in the office) in a presentation with a chart saying " 10
> minute fag break"
That might have been misinterpreted here in the UK too, if those present
were
I am particularly looking for any or all of the following manual numbers. I am
willing to pay for shipping if only hardcopy is available. Please contact me
privately at pjfarley3 at earthlink dot net for hardcopy coordination.
Programming GuideSC26-4307
Language Reference SC26-4308
Using
The major z/OS programming languages (COBOL, PL/I, HLASM) allow one to write a
subroutine and separately compile and link it and then call that subroutine
dynamically at runtime without a whole lot of fuss. I think even VS FORTRAN
programming supports this capability.
>From the reading I have
On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 at 13:22, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> Are "route" and "rut" related?
"Pronunciation:
Brit. pronunciation/rʌt/,
U.S. pronunciation/rət/
Forms:
α. 1500s rutte, 1500s–1600s rutt, 1500s– rut, 1600s rupt.
β. 1500s rotte, 1500s (1900s– English regional (west midlands and
southern)) r
https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/book/ibmop002.boo
https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/book/ibmol004.boo
https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/book/ibmom002.boo
https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/book/ibmot001.boo
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/pli/LY27-9528-0_OS_PLI_Version_2_Proble
m_
I'm aware it is quite obsolete topic.
Q: was it possible to connect Amdahl or Hitachi machines with IBM CPC
using sysplex links?
Did they use the same hardware and protocol?
BTW: I found the following Hitachi CF link descriptions: ISCH2, ICF,
ISB, ICC. Any of them is similar to IBM links (I kn
I am not a sysprog, but there is a system where I play sysprog. It is a very
specialized z/OS LPAR and has no third-party scheduling software (and I don't
think I really want to get into supporting a CBT freebie).
I do some very rudimentary scheduling -- running a couple of jobs once a day
each
Except for the last, the links are incomplete.
On 2023-03-20 08:06, Peter Stockdill wrote:
https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/book/ibmop002.boo
https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/book/ibmol004.boo
https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/book/ibmom002.boo
https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/boo
Is a DLL *not* simple?
(Serious question. I have never done it but isn't it just a couple of compile
and link options?)
Does the system() call solve your need?
Charles
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On 3/19/2023 5:05 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
Can I somehow conditionally submit a JES2 command to run the job in an hour?
Can you add a // SCHEDULE JCL statement to the job with a HOLDUNTL=
specification? Or must it be identical to the original JCL in every way?
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2023, 15:02 Farley, Peter, <
031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> The major z/OS programming languages (COBOL, PL/I, HLASM) allow one to
> write a subroutine and separately comp
Hi Robin,
The first four are direct links to the BookManager book files.
The fifth should have been:
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/pli/LY27-9528-0_OS_PLI_Version_2_Proble
m_Determination_Dec87.pdf
Cheers,
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On 2023-03-20 11:32, Peter Stockdill wrote:
Hi Robin,
The first four are direct links to the BookManager book files.
The fifth should have been:
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/pli/LY27-9528-0_OS_PLI_Version_2_Proble
m_Determination_Dec87.pdf
As I said, the last link is OK.
The first four
Ed, thanks, yes, // SCHEDULE HOLDUNTL='+01:00' should do the trick. I sat
through the session in Poughkeepsie on those scheduling features that IBM was
adding to z/OS, but they did not really sink in, because I had no day-to-day
need.
There is no need for the follow-on job to be identical. Heck
With a .boo ending, you need to use a bookmanager viewer.
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 7:39 PM Robin Vowels wrote:
>
> On 2023-03-20 11:32, Peter Stockdill wrote:
> > Hi Robin,
> >
> > The first four are direct links to the BookManager book files.
> > The fifth should have been:
> > http://www.bitsave
Need something from
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/downloadable-free-bookmanager-tools-and-components
for the .boo links.
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 7:13 PM Robin Vowels wrote:
>
> Except for the last, the links are incomplete.
>
> On 2023-03-20 08:06, Peter Stockdill wrote:
> > https://publib.bo
Yes, my web browser (Firefox) does the same. You can just 'Save The Page
As...'.
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On 2023-03-20 11:32, Pe
I'm pretty sure it's not only British authors, but American too if one goes
back far enough, whom I caught using "faggot" to mean a piece of wood for a
fire. From there to a cigarette is an easy step.
How the word came to describe an underclassman at a British boarding school,
required to run err
On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 at 21:28, Bob Bridges wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure it's not only British authors, but American too if one goes
> back far enough, whom I caught using "faggot" to mean a piece of wood for a
> fire. From there to a cigarette is an easy step.
The root is from "bundle" of sticks an
On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 19:56:55 -0500, Charles Mills wrote:
>
>There is no need for the follow-on job to be identical. Heck, as I read
>HOLDUNTL, they could be
>
Changing // SCHEDULE HOLDUNTL='+00:00:01'
to: // SCHEDULE HOLDUNTL='+01:00:00'
feels like the sort of thing DFSORT loves to do.
(Ca
Also Kipling.
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 at 21:28, Bob Bridges wrote:
The question is more "justify" than "afford." Not sure changing one string in
one job submission qualifies.
I can have two different members, or I can tolerate a one-hour delay in a
single job. Either approach is totally satisfactory to me. I will probably go
with the "two members" approach; I
On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 21:25:52 -0500, Charles Mills wrote:
>The question is more "justify" than "afford." Not sure changing one string in
>one job submission qualifies.
>
And it may be less a hurdle to justify the license fee than to justify the
learning experience,
unless you're already proficie
A different approach is to add a additional step at or near the top that waits.
I had a very short assembler program that called STIMER based on parm input.
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2023, at 02:23, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Also Kipling.
Kindling ??(sorry)
>
> The root is from "bundle" of sticks and small pieces of wood, and by
> expansion to bundles of other things.
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2023, at 02:39, Gibney, Dave wrote:
> A different approach is to add a additional step at or near the top
> that waits. I had a very short assembler program that called STIMER
> based on parm input.
Does that not mean holding up an initiator for an hour, doing nothing?
It's not a
True
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 02:39:51 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:
>A different approach is to add a additional step at or near the top that
>waits. I had a very short assembler program that called STIMER based on parm
>input.
>
Ah! the old way. Nowadays, BPXBATCH sleep.
In those days, it was consider
My primary use was to pause a few things at IPL so that needed services had a
chance to start.
In this case, the OP seemed to have a system where holding an init wouldn't
hurt much
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Sorry to double ply. One of the things I was waiting on was OMVS. BPXBATCH
Sleep doesn't sleep if OMVS isn't there.
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Peter, thanks for the .boo links. I have them downloaded.
But why is it that when I try to get to the main publib.boulder.ibm.com page
with Firefox I only get one item, a (broken) "favicon" item? Is there another
way into that resource?
Or is that originally an ftp link?
Peter
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DLL is not simple to me, maybe because I haven't ever had to do it. There are
no such hoops to jump through in other HLL's (even HLASM LINK or LOAD/BASR is
simple by comparison).
No, a system() call does not solve the need.
Peter
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Thanks, John, that is enlightening but it is VSE not z/OS. I will search for
something similar in the z/OS docs.
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Thanks Mike, I do already have those downloads (or similar from an earlier
era). What I don’t have is an address of an archive of .boo's to DL from.
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 23:34:48 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka
wrote:
>I'm aware it is quite obsolete topic.
>Q: was it possible to connect Amdahl or Hitachi machines with IBM CPC
>using sysplex links?
>Did they use the same hardware and protocol?
>
>BTW: I found the following Hitachi CF link description
I am building a static version of ncurses (don’t ask) and there are a couple of
problems I note:
1. The xlc include search order defaults to -I/usr/include as the 1st place
to search (despite what the man page for c89 says) whereas other *IX systems
search the user specification first then
I found the four books in:
https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/df/s390app4.des
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Thanks Mike, I
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>Q: was it possible to connect Amdahl or Hitachi machines with
>IBM CPC using sysplex links?
>Did they use the same hardware and protocol?
It seems so. Bitsavers.org preserved these Amdahl brochures:
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/amdahl/brochures/AmdahlMillenniumCoupling50
Re: greater than 256 channels. I vaguely remember it was the top end of Amdahl
5995Ms which could have 512 channels. In order to use these the system had to
be partitioned in 2 (not using MDF?) with a max of 256 channels in each.
Re CF links, Hitachi were known to licence the IP for some System
Thanks, Ann, that's very useful to know. I will pass on the info to our
sysprogs.
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I checked my z/
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