Linkling an object from VSE to be used in z/OS

2021-10-07 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi, I was asked to attempt to link a object deck from VSE in z/OS. The program is a COBOL2 program, but the source has been lost. The first few lines of the object deck are: W PHASE JKHIVX52,S+X'00' W MODE AMODE(31),RMODE(ANY) W.ESD .. ..JKHIVX52.§.©..÷0 After that there are many (A lit

Re: Question on z/OS 2.5 and HFS file systems.

2021-10-07 Thread Colin Paice
I think the question came up from someone who had not had to administer ZFS/HFS before. It was one of these "where do I start" questions. Of course once you are familiar with an area it gets easier. Colin On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 22:04, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > W dniu 06.10.2021 o 16:44, Ed Jaff

Re: Linkling an object from VSE to be used in z/OS

2021-10-07 Thread Colin Paice
The phase statement is VSE specific, so it will not run without change. If you send it to me privately I'll see if I can bind it. On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 08:22, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > Hi, > I was asked to attempt to link a object deck from VSE in z/OS. > The program is a COBOL2 program, but the so

Re: DFDSS Restore IGD306I problem

2021-10-07 Thread (K.K.Paradox)T.Kobayashi
Furuya-san, I will check the SG settings. Thank you for your advice. Best regards, Toyokazu Kobayashi - Original Message - From: "Nobuhiko Furuya" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 1:29 PM Subject: Re: DFDSS Restore IGD306I problem Hi -san, Y

Re: Linkling an object from VSE to be used in z/OS

2021-10-07 Thread Attila Fogarasi
MVS format object decks always have x'02' in column 1 and not "W", so that would be a problem. You would also need to link with an appropriate Cobol runtime library, and those would have been EOL circa 30 years ago. Worst case you might have to disassemble and recreate this module, eliminating th

Re: Linkling an object from VSE to be used in z/OS

2021-10-07 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
I removed the W by shifting the who deck to the left. I then removed the PHASE statement. This didn't help much. The message from the Binder are: IEW2278I B352 INVOCATION PARAMETERS - LIST,XREF,NOLET,MAP IEW2322I 1220 1MODE AMODE(31),RMODE(ANY)

Re: Question on z/OS 2.5 and HFS file systems.

2021-10-07 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 10/6/2021 9:25 PM, Bruce Hewson wrote: The above does require MXG & SAS - Hope you have it., If not, I would think some quick editing in ISPF might suffice. For example: ===> X ALL;F X'03' 219 ALL;DEL ALL X would get you pretty close... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 8

Re: Question on z/OS 2.5 and HFS file systems.

2021-10-07 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Well, I'm not z/OS Unix guru, but it seems pretty easy to me. First - mounted filesystems can be listed using several methods including SDSF, MVS command, ish pull down menu, BPXPRMFS member. Second - automount. Third - "dummy, lost, forgotten" HFS, that means the dataset exists, but it is not

Re: Question on z/OS 2.5 and HFS file systems.

2021-10-07 Thread Mike Schwab
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=output-dcollect-record-structure Defines the fields in DCOLLECT output data set. Includes HFS and zFS field definitions. On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 9:37 AM Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > > Well, I'm not z/OS Unix guru, but it seems pretty easy to me. > First -

Re: [IBM External] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-07 Thread Martin Packer
I, too, put DSN first. More importantly to me, I put it on a separate line. That makes ISPF File Tailoring more reliable and I'm often wanting to change the data sets I'm pointing at. But then I'm not exactly in a Production shop. Martin Packer WW z/OS Performance, Capacity and Architecture, I

Re: Question on z/OS 2.5 and HFS file systems.

2021-10-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 10:37:33 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > >IMHO more important is to have a procedure/process/project to convert >HFS to ZFS. Some filesystems can be unmounted with no harm to >production, but some cannot. > Mentioned here a few weeks ago: From:Bill Schoen Date: W

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-07 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Brian, That was part of why I posed the initial question. Is IBM repackaging/reselling JED (or some other JCL checker) or are they rolling their own? Guess we'll have to wait until next year to see what it's all about. My company is considering getting a JCL checker (no sales calls please

Re: Question on z/OS 2.5 and HFS file systems.

2021-10-07 Thread Bill Schoen
bpxwmigf will migrate an hfs (and more recently zfs) file system to a zfs file system while mounted and in-use. This is intended to be non-disruptive in production. Should you find an hfs file system you need after you migrate to 2.5, open a problem with IBM support. Although not usable on 2.5, t

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-07 Thread Sasso, Len
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Customized Offering Driver

2021-10-07 Thread Rich Smrcina
I ordered the Customized Offering Driver to install z/OS 2.5 the day that z/OS 2.5 was available. I thought it was supposed to be ready to use zOSMF to do the install? zOSMF doesn’t come up. It complains about the angel process not being up, but it certainly is. If this is really an authenticat

Re: Customized Offering Driver

2021-10-07 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Does the custom pac for 2.5 still provide the Installing your order doc? since if 2.5 requires z/osmf then there is an assumption on IBM's part that security had already been setup and you are already using z/osmf        Carmen Vitullo -Original Message- From: Rich To: IBM-M

Re: Customized Offering Driver

2021-10-07 Thread Rich Smrcina
I haven’t actually ordered 2.5 yet. I wanted to make sure the COD was set up correctly first. But, I agree. If this is the way of the future, the COD should be ready to go with no (or minimal) intervention on my part. I understand VTAM and TCP/IP have to be set up, that is all done. Rich Smrci

Re: Customized Offering Driver

2021-10-07 Thread Carmen Vitullo
ok, I understand and agree, I am kind of lucky, I was asked to have z/osmf available on 2.2 IIRC for the policy agent so all the security is now setup, if you are a Top-Secret site like me, it was quite an adventure.     Carmen Vitullo -Original Message- From: Rich To: IBM-MAI

Re: Customized Offering Driver

2021-10-07 Thread Dave Jousma
>Does the custom pac for 2.5 still provide the Installing your order doc? since >if 2.5 requires z/osmf then there is an assumption on IBM's part that security >had already been setup and you are already using z/osmf > > > >Carmen Vitullo if you order V2.5 before January 1, you can have

Re: Linkling an object from VSE to be used in z/OS

2021-10-07 Thread Peter Sylvester
shifing 1 byte to the left removing the  phase and mode changing the number of rld entries in the last rld record from x'34' to x'10 no complains from the binder the skipped rld entries contain x'0100' and one just zeros. no idea what that means, i have never seen vse On 07/10/2021 10:00

Re: CICS VSAM LSR pools and IBM DASD PPRC type mirroring.

2021-10-07 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 23.09.2021 o 22:21, Ward, Mike S pisze: Hello, all. I don't know if any of you are doing disk replication to a DR site, but we are, and we are trying to resolve a specific problem with CICS and VSAM file. CICS, in the case of LSR pools hold the data in the buffers until a buffer shorta

Re: Customized Offering Driver

2021-10-07 Thread Senior, Kevin
Looks like you probably have a RACF issue due to this: CWWKB0118W: This server is not authorized to connect to the IZUANG1 Look for ICH408I messages. Also, we found we needed UJ05022 on z/OS 2.4 to use the software install process for z/OS 2.5. Check your maint levels if you want to install 2.5. K

Re: Linkling an object from VSE to be used in z/OS

2021-10-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
It looks like you punched with stacker select, which suggests that the record length is 81 rather than 80. IAC, I suspect that there is VSE only code there. Is there a decompiler? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Main

Re: Customized Offering Driver

2021-10-07 Thread Rich Smrcina
Kev, I’m referring to the customized offering driver. If it’s intent is to allow a customer to install z/OS using zOSMF, it should be set up to do so. That includes all of the security bits. Rich Smrcina > On Oct 7, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Senior, Kevin > <03d27faeee8d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread carl swanson
Everyone, First in full disclosure I work for Dell Technologies Mainframe Practice, now that is out of the way I will proceed. Dell Technologies does off a Cyber Protection solution for the Mainframe using our PowerMax hardware and Software for DASD and our DLm Solut

Re: Customized Offering Driver

2021-10-07 Thread Senior, Kevin
Rich You’re right, it *should* have the necessary fixes. Also, you're right it *should* have the necessary security set up for the IZUSVR1 to connect to the IZUANG1, but the message you're getting suggests IZUSVR1 is not authorised to connect to IZUANG1 so something isn't right with the security

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Charles Mills
And assuming you never make a mistake. Never leave an APF data set unprotected. Never give the wrong person console authority. Fully understand APF on UNIX. Never have a Rexx PDS used by privileged users that is modifiable by others. Have no magic SVCs. Have no flawed APF code, no APF "tools" av

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Bill Johnson
You’d have to be a poorly run shop to permit any of those to occur. Maybe that’s why mainframe hacks have actually never happened.Biden successfully extracted 124,000 from Afghanistan in a few weeks. Amazing. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, October 7, 2021, 2:12 PM, Charles M

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Charles Mills
I don't know, but what the professional Pen Testers tell me is that they never fail to find things like that. I've never met any group that never made a mistake, never had an "oops," never "missed something." Magic SVCs were widespread until recently. Has every single one vanished? Charles -

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Charles Mills
> Maybe that’s why mainframe hacks have actually never happened Assuming you don't count Logica. ("Oh, that wasn't a real mainframe hack, they came in through USS.") And assuming you don't count one other that I am aware of but under a firm request not to discuss. Charles -Original Messa

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 15:47:11 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >I don't know, but what the professional Pen Testers tell me is that they never >fail to find things like that. > Do you mean they always find one or they always find all? On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 15:49:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >> Maybe

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Bill Johnson
Logica isn’t actually a hack. And of course the phantom one you’re working on.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, October 7, 2021, 4:49 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > Maybe that’s why mainframe hacks have actually never happened Assuming you don't count Logica. ("Oh, that wasn't a rea

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Bill Johnson
Nearly all banks run a mainframe. If hackers wanted to break into platforms handling the worlds financial system, where all the money is, the mainframe is the platform. The MF has been around for 60-70 years and all you can come up with the Logica non hack and some hokey hack only you know about

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Charles Mills
The one I am privately aware of I did not work on and is four years (?) in the past. It was a US government system. There are varying versions of the Logica story. The one I read in the police report and accept as factual involved the exploitation of a flaw in a Web browser running on z/OS UNIX

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Charles Mills
Interesting thought. Has anyone ever tested for a buffer overrun exploit in USS (the old USS, the real USS)? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 3:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Bill Johnson
Right, they’re all kept under wraps in a world where privacy is next to impossible. And what you heard (suddenly not under wraps) isn’t what happened with  Logica.  If your kid drops his key, and someone uses it to enter a house, that’s not a break in. 60-70 years and all you’ve got is a few non

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Charles Mills
The insecurity of Windows is irrelevant. The insecurity of less-secure platforms is relevant to the question "where should I implement my financial software?" but not relevant to the question "do I need to consider the possibility of a mainframe breach?" By the same logic, no bank has ever been

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Charles Mills
> your hatred of IBM and the mainframe My friend, now you are out there. I have 53 years on this platform, and it has been very, very good to me. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Thursday,

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Bill Johnson
Security is paramount in the 15 or so shops I’ve worked in. And supremely important in banks. And none were ever hacked. IBM makes it easy to secure the MF. Other platforms make it easy for hackers. Banks are robbed fairly often. Just through the front door. Many of you are anti mainframe. It sh

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Bill Johnson
Started when you were 12 or still needing to work into your 70’s? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, October 7, 2021, 5:32 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > your hatred of IBM and the mainframe My friend, now you are out there. I have 53 years on this platform, and it has been very, very

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Tom Brennan
I'll repeat what I always say about this. If I was hacking a mainframe I wouldn't start with the mainframe, I'd start with the sysprog or security admin's PC or Mac or email or phone or whatever. In that case it doesn't matter one bit how well the mainframe is protected internally. And pleas

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Bill Johnson
I’d like to see anyone hack a mainframe using my phone. Or email. Let me guess. Mills and you sell security? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, October 7, 2021, 5:50 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: I'll repeat what I always say about this.  If I was hacking a mainframe I wouldn't start wi

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Charles Mills
I did not start when I was 12 and I do not need (financially) to work. I love coding and I like this platform. I have been very involved with security solutions for the mainframe. I do not currently exactly sell mainframe security. I recently did a presentation on how certificates work. Is that

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Charles Mills
Exactly, and "that was not a real hack" would not get your data back. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 4:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe ran

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Bill Johnson
The thing about you list dominators, is you think you know it all and should never be challenged. I love when the IBM experts corrects one of you. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, October 7, 2021, 6:01 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Exactly, and "that was not a real hack" would not get

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Tom Brennan
Obviously not you, but I've seen email and phone used for apps that allow sysprogs temporary upgraded access, validated only by their email address or phone text. On 10/7/2021 4:53 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: I’d like to see anyone hack a mainframe using my phone. Or email. Let me guess. Mills an

Re: Linkling an object from VSE to be used in z/OS

2021-10-07 Thread allan winston
Attila, I agree with you that there is almost no chance of a load module generated from this object deck operating correctly. z/OS and VSE use SVCs differently. For performing I/O, DCBs and DTFs are radically different. The VSE COBOL compiler may be calling library routines that don't exi

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I don't know about the others on the list, but I am a tad tired of this and other rounds of sniping between Mr. Johnson and Mr. Mills. I would sincerely appreciate it if both of you would tone it down by an order of magnitude or more, or even better take this particular line of discussion offli

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Rich Smrcina
Agreed. Move on. Rich Smrcina > On Oct 7, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 > <031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I don't know about the others on the list, but I am a tad tired of this and > other rounds of sniping between Mr. Johnson and Mr. Mills. > > I would

Re: Linkling an object from VSE to be used in z/OS

2021-10-07 Thread Tony Thigpen
Don't expect it to work. When VSE punches a phase, the link deck created includes any called modules without any way to get them out. This is in contrast to z/OS which produces all the individual modules. Tony Thigpen Gadi Ben-Avi wrote on 10/7/21 3:22 AM: Hi, I was asked to attempt to link a

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Tom Brennan
(Sorry, another repeat here) I once test-called the company Help Desk and with no other information but the fact that I called from a sysprog's desk phone (my own), they gave me not only a password reset, but also told me my TSO userid because I had "forgotten" it, and then helped me log on. S

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Tom Brennan
Ok... sorry. I retract my last post :) Oops... the internet is forever. On 10/7/2021 5:34 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: I don't know about the others on the list, but I am a tad tired of this and other rounds of sniping between Mr. Johnson and Mr. Mills. I would sincerely appreciate it if b

Trying to contact

2021-10-07 Thread Gibney, Dave
I tried the @VSE2PDF address. It's possible we could use the services of your data center. > Tony Thigpen Dave Gibney gib...@wsu.edu 509-335-7359 Information Technology Services Washington State University -- For IBM-MAIN subsc

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Charles Mills
Sincere apologies. I was trying to be constructive. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe ransomware s

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Nash, Jonathan S.
Philip Young “Soldier of Fortran” Mainframe hacker videos from 6 years ago :-( https://youtu.be/Xfl4spvM5DI https://youtu.be/vyHAqxCkf-k There are other Def con etc mainframe hacker videos out there ... Kinda makes me nervous... ---

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-07 Thread Filip Palian
>From the information security perspective there's a well-known confidentiality, integrity and availability (CIA) triad. However, the overall security posture of an organisation is dependent on the following three key areas: people, process, technology (PPT). Majority of breaches/risks can be prev