Mike Schwab wrote:
*Actually, the original gram was 1 cubic centimeter of distilled waterat
4c, making a kilogram 10 cm * 10 cm * 10 cm of distilled water at4c. Then
they discovered nuclear isotopes that allowed the mass ofwater to vary
between samples.*
There's a logical reason for this. The
The important thing though is that it works as local 3270, and that's what the
OP wanted to use it for. Since it will work, there is no good reason not to
use it.
Brian
On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 13:17:00 +0200, R.S. wrote:
>Excuse me, but IMHO OSA-ICC is just way to get rid off old equipment
>like
I completely disagree. Why would IBM have two settings in the configuration
screen for them, one as a 3270 and the other as a console, if they only wanted
you to be able to use consoles?
Brian
On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:25:54 +, Parwez Hamid
wrote:
>Agreed. The full name is OSA-Express Inte
No, the important thing is that it works as local *non-SNA*. Local SNA would be
useless for NIP consoles.
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How is using a field for what it is intended for abuse?
"Abuse" in this case is creating a subsystem when there is no need to do
so.
In the past, subsystems were sometimes created solely to have access to
the SSCTUSER field.
And how is N/T easier?
For the same reason as above -- there is
Brian,
In regards to the '3270' or 'console' setting, that is very specific to
z/OS. On z/VSE and z/VM the consoles are set to '3270' in the ICC
configuration. Setting the value to 'console' for them will lead to
problems. Yet, on z/OS, you must set the field to 'console' handle to
some quirk
And, this is were the discussion has drifted. His original question had
noting to do with the operating system side of the ICC. It had to do
with the limited IP configuration when using both ports. He had it
working with one port, but he thought he was misunderstanding the
limitations on the se
Doesn't z/OS work with a real 3270 as a console? If so, then it's the ICC
that's doing something nonstandard with the 3270 setting.
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I can see the point about creating an unnecessary subsystem, but what's
complicated about looking up a subsystem?
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On Jul 20, 2020, at 10:22 PM, Jackson, Rob wrote:
>
> American standard--Imperial units; they're rubbish. Abject garbage. SI is
> not a fad, despite its origins. No fan of the "French;" no fan of "Trump;"
> no fan of anything political. But SI, revised a couple times or three, is a
> beaut
Measures where the names have other meanings are unhelpful. So "1 cup"
might be meaningful to a USAn (or someone like me who bought measuring
spoons/cups in the USA) but it's thoroughly ambiguous.
I notice that USAns don't talk about "stone" (14lbs) so there's only so
far the non-decimal useful
I agree that cups are useful! The only time I find Imperial useful is
reading US recipes that use cups. Other than that Imperial is brain
damaged! And I say that having grown up in the UK to a family which used
Imperial all the time in my youth.
I used to go to the sweet shop and ask for a quart
We recently migrated to z14's and I was working on setting up the ICC
definitions on the new boxes. One of the docs I ran across pointed out the
fact that there is only one gateway address, and had a nice diagram showing
one of the ports connected to the outside world, and the other port rele
Then the 440 yard and 880 yard races would've meant nothing to you at
school. :-)
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No, but I understood what the 18 and 6 yard boxes were in football :)
Measuring out cups of flour is easier than getting the scales out when making
Yorkshire puddings.
> On 21 Jul 2020, at 10:33 pm, Martin Packer wrote:
>
> Then the 440 yard and 880 yard races would've meant nothing to you at
> Do we really want to stick with a system of units that few of us understand,
> with the
> same name denoting different quantities depending on context?
I agree with Shmuel. As a Canadian I was always mildly amused that the
Americans had different quarts and gallons from us. They were wrong o
+1 on Tony's remark - but I do find the discussions and experiences of the
people here always fascinating and entertaining :-).
As it was mentioned, the 3270 / console setting - I had to use the
"operator console" to get my z/VM 6.3 instance to play along. If I used the
3270 option for the SYSC th
I don't have an answer to that. I know what works and what does not. I
never dug into what was different due to the settings.
Most likely, it was something not in the specifications that z/OS
happened to use, or had added for some reason, to the 3274 long ago.
Tony Thigpen
Seymour J Metz wro
z/VM and z/VSE allow 3215s as their consoles. z/OS does not. z/OS requires a
3270 full screen console.
Regards.
Lloyd
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I don't ever use SYSC. Hum, I thought that was the 3270 emulation in the
HMC that did not use an ICC connection. (I never use the HMC 3270
emulation either.)
Maybe I am not understanding the SYSC stuff.
Tony Thigpen
Christian Svensson wrote on 7/21/20 11:24 AM:
+1 on Tony's remark - but I do
But, what does 3215 support have to do with the fact that z/OS requires
a special option on the ICC and can not use the 3270 option on the ICC?
Tony Thigpen
Lloyd Fuller wrote on 7/21/20 11:37 AM:
z/VM and z/VSE allow 3215s as their consoles. z/OS does not. z/OS requires a
3270 full screen
Hi Tom,
Don't forget that Metric was foisted upon us (as was federal
bilingualism) by Justin's father as a political move after he quelled
the FLQ Crisis.
It also was a sneaky way to get more tax revenue. That is, 1 penny/liter
gasoline tax seems more palatable than an extra 4.5 cents/gallon.
It's all perspective and how precise you need to be. And what we are
measuring.
The only thing I know that is measured in yards is cloth and football.
In football, we never measure in feet or inches, just yards. We just
care if it crosses the line.
For construction, we never use yards, it's
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Hi Tony,
"... 100 knots is about 55mph ..."
Assuming you meant Kilometers/Hour (based upon the context), it's
actually 62.5 MPH.
Regards,
David
On 2020-07-21 12:00, Tony Thigpen wrote:
It's all perspective and how precise you need to be. And what we are
measuring.
The only thing I know that
On Jul 21, 2020, at 11:12 AM, David Spiegel wrote:
>
> "... 100 knots is about 55mph ..."
> Assuming you meant Kilometers/Hour (based upon the context), it's actually
> 62.5 MPH.
>
Well, if the posted limit is 55 mph, 62.5 mph seems about the right speed to
go. 😉
But duck-duck-go tells me 10
On 2020-07-21 09:35, Seymour J Metz wrote:
I can see the point about creating an unnecessary subsystem, but what's
complicated about looking up a subsystem?
It's not complicated to look up a subsystem, but it could be an
excessive path length. I've seen systems with over 200 subsystems
defin
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Too many things
That context was with regard to driving in Canada and should have been
100 KPM, not 100 knots. :-(
Last time I was in Canada, we still were stuck with mostly 55mph limits
in USA while Canada seemed to have a standard of 100kpm so I equate the two.
My point was that I don
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020, at 17:00, Tony Thigpen wrote:
> It's all perspective and how precise you need to be. And what we are
> measuring.
>
> The only thing I know that is measured in yards is cloth and football.
What about "the whole nine yards"?
> In home improvements, boards and such are meas
Well, "the whole nine yards" is about cloth, so I guess it fits the two
known items. :-)
As for things being in SI and not US, but labeled as US, yes, I too am
seeing that. If you buy washers (for bolts) at the big box stores, they
have larger holes than the ones at the true hardware store. An
It's been a very long time since I drove in Canada (BC). What I noticed was
that the yellow, recommended speed thought the upcoming curve, really meant go
that speed through the curve. Unlike ours in the US where they are very much
advisory.
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Or not...
https://www.npr.org/2013/01/14/169140590/-the-whole-nine-yards-of-what
.
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But who believes anything that the NPR says. :-)
(As I slap myself in the face for bringing up politics.)
Tony Thigpen
Jesse 1 Robinson wrote on 7/21/20 3:22 PM:
Or not...
https://www.npr.org/2013/01/14/169140590/-the-whole-nine-yards-of-what
.
.
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100 KPM (Kilometers per minute) would be about 6,000 KPH (Kilometers per
hour), about Mach 6, or 3 times the speed of the Concorde.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:24 PM Tony Thigpen wrote:
> Too many things
>
> That context was with regard to driving in Canada and should have been
> 100 KPM, not
I guess everyone knows I can't type worth a flip. :-)
Tony Thigpen
Mike Schwab wrote on 7/21/20 4:58 PM:
100 KPM (Kilometers per minute) would be about 6,000 KPH (Kilometers per
hour), about Mach 6, or 3 times the speed of the Concorde.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:24 PM Tony Thigpen wrote:
To
Not as bad as the pint. I thought I was being short changed when I first
ordered a beer in the USA!
On 21 Jul 2020, at 10:57 pm, Tom Russell wrote:
>> Do we really want to stick with a system of units that few of us understand,
>> with the
>> same name denoting different quantities depending o
You can use ICC 3270's as z/OS consoles, I think what you are referring to is
that you may not be able to use them as NIP consoles.
Brian
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:41:59 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote:
>But, what does 3215 support have to do with the fact that z/OS requires
>a special option on the
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