Re: DFSORT for HTTP logs - RECFM and BLKSiZE?

2018-01-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>I do believe that I should be able to point DFSORT at any file (Unix or not) >where performing the functions of DFSORT make sense, and not be required to >specify in JCL the physical attributes of LRECL, RECFM and most especially >BLKSIZE. These should all be derivable from the physical datas

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Please Read: Server Certificates Expiring - Soon!

2018-01-17 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Is there a way to subscribe to TechDocs? Some of them are really fun to read. A feed to https://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/Web/TD-ByDate would be great! Can be made a part of the 'My Notifications' maybe..? – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IB

Finding the names of hsm's BCDSs

2018-01-17 Thread Manfred Lotz
Hi there, I like to find out the DFSMShsm BCDS names programmatically. As I know the DD names, i.e. BAKCAT, and optionally BAKCAT2, BAKCAT3 and BAKCAT4 I thought of using AR mode in order to get the TIOT of HSM. However, in order to get to the TIOT reliably I need SWAREQ which doesn't support A

Re: Are Mainframes a Security Risk? | Enterprise Systems Media

2018-01-17 Thread ITschak Mugzach
sorry to interfere, but there are compliance tools to help you find the gap between vendor requirements and reality. IBM, Vanguard, CA and of course us has tools. We just automated the process of compliance checks and send the results from many so called legacy systems to a single server, so the pr

Re: Finding the names of hsm's BCDSs

2018-01-17 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:04:18 +0100 Manfred Lotz wrote: :>I like to find out the DFSMShsm BCDS names programmatically. :>As I know the DD names, i.e. BAKCAT, and optionally BAKCAT2, BAKCAT3 :>and BAKCAT4 I thought of using AR mode in order to get the TIOT of HSM. :>However, in order to get to

Re: Finding the names of hsm's BCDSs

2018-01-17 Thread Rob Scott
Writing SRBs to sniff private storage data in another address space is not for the faint-hearted. It can be done, however it is very easy to do it incorrectly or in an unsafe manner. AR-Mode access to the foreign address space (HSM) is a big no-no - you are breaking system integrity rules and

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-17 Thread David Crayford
On 17/01/2018 3:19 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 18:51:55 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: That's a common beginners' mistake. Try putting the label inside a do block and see what happens. A proper goto would pop what needs to be popped and no more. See

Re: [EXTERNAL] CBT Tape Version 495 has been cut

2018-01-17 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Congratulations on another release. The site, and before that the tape, have been a great benefit to the mainframe community and your work is greatly appreciated. -- Lionel B. Dyck < Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA

Re: Finding the names of hsm's BCDSs

2018-01-17 Thread Manfred Lotz
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 12:01:22 + Rob Scott wrote: > In the meantime, you could try and come up with a safer local > solution based around using ISGQUERY for the SYSDSN major name > enqueues for the HSM address space. > > Depending on local naming standards you could probably spot the BCDS > da

Re: [EXTERNAL] CBT Tape Version 495 has been cut

2018-01-17 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
I second that! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 7:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] CBT Tape Version 495 has been cut [External Email] Co

Re: Finding the names of hsm's BCDSs

2018-01-17 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Can you tell about the languages you wish to use and if this code runs on a server side or client (TSO, Batch). ITschak On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Manfred Lotz wrote: > Hi there, > I like to find out the DFSMShsm BCDS names programmatically. > > As I know the DD names, i.e. BAKCAT, and o

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:25:40 +, Allan Staller wrote: >The only restriction I am aware of is that the PDSE cannot be in the IPL time >LINKLIST. I think you mean LPA. LNKLST can include PDSE data sets. -- Tom Marchant -- Fo

Re: Finding the names of hsm's BCDSs

2018-01-17 Thread Manfred Lotz
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 15:04:11 +0200 ITschak Mugzach wrote: > Can you tell about the languages you wish to use and if this code > runs on a server side or client (TSO, Batch). > Assembler. The program runs in TSO. -- Manfred > ITschak > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Manfred Lotz > wro

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Allan Staller
Oops! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 7:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDSCLEAN issue On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:25:40 +, Allan Staller wrote: >The only

Re: running os/vs cobol in CICS 5.3 with DB2

2018-01-17 Thread Rob Schramm
Tim, I am looking for the QDM (quick and dirty method) to pull a shop into a more supported OS. There is no appetite for reworking code to accommodate the new COBOL. If we were actually able to run on something newer, there might be path for a small section of apps to go thru actual conversion.

Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction

2018-01-17 Thread Peter Vander Woude
Arun, In the IDCAMS listing, I see that the files are defined NONSPANNED. With the records being variable length, you could have as few as 2 records per ci, since the max is around 11000. if all the records are the minimum of 170, then you would have around 156 records per ci. Have you looke

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Beesley, Paul
No, Allan is right. LNKLST can include PDSE datasets but they seem to be managed differently to those added after IPL. They can't be deleted even after going through the Linklist unallocate palaver, and it seems they can't be emptied effectively. BTW, someone suggested DELETE PDSE(*) but that d

Re: VSAM usage for ancient disk models

2018-01-17 Thread Dana Mitchell
Current (for us 2.1) z/OS HCD still shows 3375 as a valid DASD device type. IIRC 3375 was emulated CKD on FBA 3370 HDA's. I also think 3375s were used as the storage for the embedded 43X1's used as processor controllers on 3090s. Dana --

Re: VSAM usage for ancient disk models

2018-01-17 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
mitchd...@gmail.com (Dana Mitchell) writes: > Current (for us 2.1) z/OS HCD still shows 3375 as a valid DASD device > type. IIRC 3375 was emulated CKD on FBA 3370 HDA's. I also think > 3375s were used as the storage for the embedded 43X1's used as > processor controllers on 3090s. re: http://www

Re: VSAM usage for ancient disk models

2018-01-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
The 3090 processor controllers ran VM/370 on 3370 (FBA) disks. I was able to actually see one of these at a large NYC shop in the 1990's while touring it with a friend who was the VP of Operations there. The 3270 screen inside the 3090 box had the VM/370 screen logo. That made my day. I was

Re: [EXTERNAL] CBT Tape Version 495 has been cut

2018-01-17 Thread Edward Finnell
Back in the olden days, we'd have to send Arnie a reel tape to get the updates. http://www.cbtclub.org/fall-social-photos-2017.html   In a message dated 1/17/2018 6:11:36 AM Central Standard Time, lionel.d...@va.gov writes:   Congratulations on another release. The site, and before that the tap

Re: VSAM usage for ancient disk models

2018-01-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
Of course I remember the 3310, although I never used one. But your post reminds me of a question. Does anybody have a VSE timeline from the original DOS/VSE and ECPS:VSE that includes all of the packages, e.g., VSE/AF? There's a wike article on VSE and I'd like to flesh that out, or, better, pu

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread David Magee
We use PDSEs in LNKLST just fine ... both SMS and non-SMS managed. The restriction, as pointed out by Tom Marchant, is for LPA since it is built prior to PDSE support being available during the IPL process. We do space allocation for our LNKLST PDSE datasets (non-IPL volume resident) at tripl

Re: VSAM usage for ancient disk models

2018-01-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
MVS never supported the 3310 or 3370, but it supported the 3375 early on. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Edward Gould Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listse

VSE timeline [was: RE: VSAM usage for ancient disk models]

2018-01-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
On this Wikipedia page, notes #44 and #45 lead to IBM z/VSE history pages that may tell you what you want to know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_IBM_mainframe_operating_systems#DOS/VS 1980's VSE history: https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zvse/about/history1980s.html 1990's VSE

Re: VSE timeline [was: RE: VSAM usage for ancient disk models]

2018-01-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
Thanks. I was really hoping for something that listed all of the players, with dates. VSE/AF was an add-on DOS/VSE package, just as MVS/SE was an add-on, but I don't recall anybody saying "I'm running OS/VS2 R3.7 with MVS/SE" or "I'm running OS/VS2 R3.8 with MVS/SE" instead of the shorter "I'm

Re: Are Mainframes a Security Risk? | Enterprise Systems Media

2018-01-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
Good hardware and good software don't ensure security, but they make it easier. Note that I wrote "easier", not "easy". There is no substitute for good management. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion L

Re: AW: Re: IEFA111I at IPL Time for z/OS V2.3

2018-01-17 Thread Scott Ballentine
That's correct - the IEFA111I message is intended to be information to help debug a job that didn't behave as expected. It's issued when a job has MSGLEVEL=(,1) in effect. I've arranged to have the System Messages documentation updated. -Scott Ballentine (sbal...@us.ibm.com) z/OS Allocation,

Re: [EXTERNAL] CBT Tape Version 495 has been cut

2018-01-17 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2018-01-17 o 17:33, Edward Finnell pisze: Back in the olden days, we'd have to send Arnie a reel tape to get the updates. http://www.cbtclub.org/fall-social-photos-2017.html In a message dated 1/17/2018 6:11:36 AM Central Standard Time, lionel.d...@va.gov writes: Congratulations

Re: Please Read: Server Certificates Expiring - Soon!

2018-01-17 Thread Cieri, Anthony
Please pardon the interruption for a brief comment. In case it is not completely obvious, the Digicert acquisition of the Geotrust CA also affects Verisign certificates. We have already encountered this issue (last week) with another business partner that used a certificate s

Re: [EXTERNAL] CBT Tape Version 495 has been cut

2018-01-17 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:08 PM, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2018-01-17 o 17:33, Edward Finnell pisze: > >> Back in the olden days, we'd have to send Arnie a reel tape to get the >> updates. >> >> >> http://www.cbtclub.org/fall-social-photos-2017.html >> In a message dated 1/17/2018 6:11:36 AM Central

Re: [EXTERNAL] CBT Tape Version 495 has been cut

2018-01-17 Thread Blake, Daniel J [CTR]
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] CBT Tape Version 495 has been cut W dniu 2018-01-17 o 17:33, Edward Finnell pisze: >> B

Re: [EXTERNAL] CBT Tape Version 495 has been cut

2018-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 14:11:02 -0600, John McKown wrote: >On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:08 PM, R.S. wrote: >> >> Excuse me, what CBT stands for? Is it a name (acronym) of bank? >> >​Connecticut Bank and Trust.​ > (More): http://www.cbttape.org/cbtfaq.htm -- gil ---

Re: Finding the names of hsm's BCDSs

2018-01-17 Thread Graham Harris
Whilst you're waiting for IBM to deliver a proper API, you could trap the console output from a F DFHSM,Q CDS. DFHSM may well not be called DFHSM of course, so that will add a little extra work, perhaps using an ISGQUERY on ARCENQG On 17 January 2018 at 13:29, Manfred Lotz wrote: > On Wed, 17

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Jeffrey Holst
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:21:56 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:08:49 +, Beesley, Paul wrote: > >>I have been using the PDSCLEAN program from the CBT tape file 693 for a while >> ... >>... >>The report says the PDSE has been cleared, and indeed there are 0 members, >>h

0C4 in IGGCSI00

2018-01-17 Thread Kirk Wolf
If I pass an invalid filter key to IGGCSI00, I get an 0C4 in IGGCSI00. I don't see this on our normal z/OS V2R2 dev system; only on a zPDT running the ADCD Dec 2015 V2R2 build. Both systems have LMOD IGGCSI00 at the base level HDZ2220. On the other V2R2 system I get back RC4/Reas122 (Invalid fi

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:20:28 -0600, Jeffrey Holst wrote: >> >As the manual DFSMS: Using Datasets notes: >A PDSE member is not actually deleted while in use. Any program connected to >the member when the delete occurs can continue to access the member until the >data set is closed. This is called a

Re: 0C4 in IGGCSI00

2018-01-17 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Don't see this problem on our system. z/os 2.2 RSU 1707 On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: > If I pass an invalid filter key to IGGCSI00, I get an 0C4 in IGGCSI00. > > I don't see this on our normal z/OS V2R2 dev system; only on a zPDT running > the ADCD Dec 2015 V2R2 build. Bo

Re: 0C4 in IGGCSI00

2018-01-17 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Our dev LPAR at IBM also works OK. *** z/OS V2R2 - GA Code * Last Date z/OS CodeHOLDATA Changed Level Level DATE -- - --- -- 2017/12/26 V2R2 PUT1709/RSU1711 2017/12/21 I guess that's no consolation Kirk :

Re: VSE timeline [was: RE: VSAM usage for ancient disk models]

2018-01-17 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I remember the 3310. IBM called them "piccolo" drives because of the noise the actuators made. We received a bunch of these as replacements for faulty 3370s. That was back in 1981 when I was working at ICI Petrochemicals in the UK. The 3370s had a manufacturing fault that caused HDA failures. A g

Re: 0C4 in IGGCSI00

2018-01-17 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:25:28 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: >If I pass an invalid filter key to IGGCSI00, I get an 0C4 in IGGCSI00. Invalid in what way? -- Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

What about 3390-9 track???

2018-01-17 Thread R.S.
I just read some chapter of DFSMS Macro Instructions for Datasets, the current one. And I found the manual claims a 3990-9 hac longer track size: it is 56669 - not 56664. Is it a typo or there is something I don't know??? (it is Appendix 1.5.4) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland

Re: VSE timeline [was: RE: VSAM usage for ancient disk models]

2018-01-17 Thread Michel Beaulieu
I was an IBM systems engineer in that time 1980-1983. If memory serves me well: there was ECPS:VSE to run VSE/SP v1 natively on 4331 and 4341 with single level storage (somewhat like a s/38 back then). ECPS:VM was the microcode to provide VM assists to VM/SP v1. The base code was DOS/VSE ( kind

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-17 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
The old goto chestnut drops again. *Considered harmful* is a part of a phrasal template used in the titles of at least 65 critical essays in computer science and related disciplines.[1]

Re: VSE timeline [was: RE: VSAM usage for ancient disk models]

2018-01-17 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
In 1987 I worked on a variant of the 4331. The 8890. Sold by Nixdorf but manufactured by Hitachi in Israel. We ran DOS/VSE with FBA drives made by Fujitsu but rebadged as Nixdorf. It was replaced by an IBM 9370 with 9335 FBA drives. The 2.5 MIPS of this box soon maxed out and we went back to a mo

Re: 0C4 in IGGCSI00

2018-01-17 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Kirks example was *KIRK..FOO*. I don't even receive a message for that filter.. On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Walt Farrell wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:25:28 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: > > >If I pass an invalid filter key to IGGCSI00, I get an 0C4 in IGGCSI00. > > Invalid in what way? > >

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Anthony Thompson
My understanding is that the problem with deleting PDSE's after they have been in linklist, even after being removed from the currently active linklist set, was fixed in z/OS 1. See OW57609. Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Anthony Thompson
Oops, typo... z/OS 1.8 Sorry, Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Anthony Thompson Sent: Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDSCLEAN issue My understanding is that the proble

Re: VSE timeline [was: RE: VSAM usage for ancient disk models]

2018-01-17 Thread Barry Merrill
You said: "The 3370s had a manufacturing fault that caused HDA failures. A good friend was an IBM CE and he told me that it was caused by contaminated lubricant." In about 1975, I recall Roger Buchanan, an IBM CE originally from Australia, described an IBM Disk Error problem he had just recent

Re: 0C4 in IGGCSI00

2018-01-17 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:38:28 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >Kirks example was *KIRK..FOO*. > >I don't even receive a message for that filter.. Thanks, Wayne. Sorry, Kirk. I didn't read carefully enough. -- Walt -- For IBM-M

Re: VSE timeline [was: RE: VSAM usage for ancient disk models]

2018-01-17 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 > wrote: > > On this Wikipedia page, notes #44 and #45 lead to IBM z/VSE history pages > that may tell you what you want to know. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_IBM_mainframe_operating_systems#DOS/VS > >

Re: Finding the names of hsm's BCDSs

2018-01-17 Thread Anthony Thompson
Similarly, I was going to suggest calling TSO to invoke HSEND WAIT. But QUERY CDS doesn't reveal the names of the HSM CDS's, just space information about them. Neither does Q SETSYS, but it does show the names of the CDS backup datasets. Quite often the backup dataset names are the same as the C

Structured methodology was Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-17 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 14 Jan 2018 19:44:14 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main dcrayf...@gmail.com (David Crayford) wrote: >On 15/01/2018 8:07 AM, Charles Mills wrote: >> What's the problem with SIGNAL? >> >> (I've written a lot of Rexx, but never used SIGNAL labelname, only SIGNAL ON >> ... . I drank the Str

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-17 Thread Joel C. Ewing
One of the issues of ACM SIGPLAN Notices definitively resolved this issue by suggesting that the any need for the harmful semantics of GOTO statement could easily be eliminated by instead allowing a "COME FROM" statement.  I can't remember which year, but it was an April issue.  :)     JC Ewing On

Re: Finding the names of hsm's BCDSs

2018-01-17 Thread Ron hawkins
Would obtaining the data set names from SDSF meet your requirement? //DFHSMJOB MSGLEVEL=1 //STARTING EXEC DFHSM,CMD=00 XX XX* D

Re: [EXTERNAL] Are Mainframes a Security Risk? | Enterprise Systems Media

2018-01-17 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:48 AM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh > wrote: > > "... he was able to find an exposure in z/OS rather fast, the ability of > almost any user to edit the APF (authorized program > facilities) and give yourself root access." > > ROFLMAO > > That someone examined a very poorl

Re: Are Mainframes a Security Risk? | Enterprise Systems Media

2018-01-17 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Good hardware and good software don't ensure security, but they make it > easier. Note that I wrote "easier", not "easy". There is no substitute for > good management. > > Seymour: Some 20 years ago thew company I worked for hired a r

Re: VSE timeline [was: RE: VSAM usage for ancient disk models]

2018-01-17 Thread Tony Thigpen
One of these days, I need to go fix a lot of the info on those pages that is incorrect or incomplete. Tony Thigpen Farley, Peter x23353 wrote on 01/17/2018 01:16 PM: On this Wikipedia page, notes #44 and #45 lead to IBM z/VSE history pages that may tell you what you want to know. https://en.

HCD CHIPD definition - SPAN

2018-01-17 Thread Ravi Gaur
Thanks in advance for addressing my question ... I am defining a new partition on separate LCSS (most of our partition are on LCSS 1 and this new partition is on 1) and further defining a CHIPID of type OSC now the chipid's being defined should be in mode of "SPAN" as it's spanning across LCSS

Re: 0C4 in IGGCSI00

2018-01-17 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Same abens on our v2.2 (zPDT). ITschak בתאריך 18 בינו׳ 2018 4:04 לפנה״צ,‏ "Walt Farrell" כתב: > On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:38:28 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike > wrote: > > >Kirks example was *KIRK..FOO*. > > > >I don't even receive a message for that filter.. > > Thanks, Wayne. > > Sorry, Kirk. I didn't

Re: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

2018-01-17 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I was at IBM from 1978 and I certainly remember the spoof on the "COME FROM" statement. Some wag inside IBM wrote a fairly convincing treatise which was called "Structured Programming IBM's answer to the GOTO statement". At the time IBM were actively training us in Jackson Structured programming.

AW: Re: AW: Re: IEFA111I at IPL Time for z/OS V2.3

2018-01-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>I've arranged to have the System Messages documentation updated. Thanks, Scott, for having the doc updated. Saves me an RCF. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to l