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Objet : Re: SuperWylbur Users
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 14:38, Farley, Peter x23353
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Do you k
In article <1298199795294174.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu> you wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:02:20 -0400, Don Poitras wrote:
> >...
> >> (Are there DBCS terminals? Does ISPF support them?)
> >
> >Yes and yes. Condor (from Phoenix) does too since I added the support.
> >
> This?: https:/
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:02:20 -0400, Don Poitras wrote:
>...
>> (Are there DBCS terminals? Does ISPF support them?)
>
>Yes and yes. Condor (from Phoenix) does too since I added the support.
>
This?: https://phoenixsoftware.com/condor.htm
Doesn't seem to be a terminal emulator.
What CP/CCSID? Does
In article <8236998877318111.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu> you wrote:
...
> (Are there DBCS terminals? Does ISPF support them?)
Yes and yes. Condor (from Phoenix) does too since I added the support.
We got a Korean 3270 shipped from some factory floor to test with. My
boss shows up at m
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Objet : Re: SuperWylbur Users
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:51:11 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>> Why is a utility targeted for IBM mainframes (o
hardware instruction.
Charles
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:51:11 -0700, Charles Mil
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:51:11 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>> Why is a utility targeted for IBM mainframes (other than Linux for z)
>> translated into "ASCII"?
>
>My guess is there was no "why." They just downloaded it and the default was
>ASCII translation. It's bitten me more times than I care to
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 14:38, Farley, Peter x23353
wro
Hi Paul,
Translating the Zohar into Sanskrit is not as strange as it sounds.
Regards,
David
On 2020-07-08 23:58, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:28:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
Regarding 2: *if* it was a "round trip" translate table and *if* one could
get a copy of the table the
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:28:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>Regarding 2: *if* it was
Hopefully SuperWylbur will emerge.
Re: Stanford's WYLBUR, have there been any attempts at "upstream" source
code recovery in a non-mangled form? For example, via pulling and reading
a tape from someone's/anyone's archive? It appears that Stanford has
graciously released WYLBUR under the Mozilla
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:28:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>Regarding 2: *if* it was a "round trip" translate table and *if* one could
>get a copy of the table then the IEBCOPY data could be reconstructed
>programmatically.
>
>Even if not, I suspect that if one defined the problem not as "do a 100% j
ort, I
> wouldn’t presume to be his better.
>
> Peter
>
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> On Wed,
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> Do you know of a specific program or macro in the pa
sage-
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1. I would be willing to bet that if Gerhard gave up on it then it was well
and truly h
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I remember the early IBM PC having those box drawing characters in its
character sets. It had gra
I remember the early IBM PC having those box drawing characters in its
character sets. It had graphics instead of international hyphenated
characters.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 11:33 PM Tony Harminc wrote:
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> On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 14:38, Farley, Peter x23353
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> > Do you know of a spec
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 14:38, Farley, Peter x23353
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> Do you know of a specific program or macro in the package that exhibits this
> failure? Or have a link to any public discussion of the issue that describes
> the mis-translations?
>
> I DL'd the tgz file directly from Stanford and bro
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> "instead of being offloaded on the mainframe in AWS or Transmit format,
> was converted to ASCII, losing some needed
Perhaps flawed but not useless. Or at least I for one do not understand.
>
> Charles
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ginal source was the 037
variant of IBM EBCDIC, but that is only a guess based on the age of the code.
Peter
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"instead of being offloaded on the mainframe in AWS or Transmit format, was
converted to ASCII, losing some needed characters, and was then compressed
as a tar file. "
So if you understand the implications of
"instead of being offloaded on the mainframe in AWS or Transmit format, was
converted to ASCII, losing some needed characters, and was then compressed
as a tar file. "
So if you understand the implications of that, then you understand why its
useless.
Joe
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 3:37 PM David Spi
Hi Joe,
Why is it useless?
Thanks and regards,
David
On 2020-07-08 16:25, Joe Monk wrote:
Yep. And its useless.
Joe
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:39 PM David Spiegel
wrote:
Hi Joe,
I GUNZIPd and UNTARd WYLBUR via CYGWIN on Windows 10 Pro.
Regards,
David
On 2020-07-08 14:25, Joe Monk wrote:
H
Yep. And its useless.
Joe
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:39 PM David Spiegel
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> Hi Joe,
> I GUNZIPd and UNTARd WYLBUR via CYGWIN on Windows 10 Pro.
>
> Regards,
> David
>
> On 2020-07-08 14:25, Joe Monk wrote:
> > Here is some info from a while back ...
> >
> > There is definitely interest, but
Hi Joe,
I GUNZIPd and UNTARd WYLBUR via CYGWIN on Windows 10 Pro.
Regards,
David
On 2020-07-08 14:25, Joe Monk wrote:
Here is some info from a while back ...
There is definitely interest, but the UCLA version, instead of being
offloaded on the mainframe in AWS or Transmit format, was converted
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Theres a big problem with the stanford distribution that makes it unusable.
Basically, when they did the ASCII<>EBCDIC translation, some characters got
mistranslated. So, it will not assemble.
Joe
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Here is some info from a while back ...
There is definitely interest, but the UCLA version, instead of being
offloaded on the mainframe in AWS or Transmit format, was converted to
ASCII, losing some needed characters, and was then compressed as a tar
file. The result won't unpack under Windows; un
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 09:18:01 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>I would *think* -- perhaps I am being naïve -- that one could come up with an
>automated fix for that that would do a 90% job, and then fix the last 10%
>manually.
>
>How many lines of source is it (approximately) and in a few words what
, brackets and such?
Charles
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Theres a big problem with the stanford distribution
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There's precedent. Stanford graciously offers WYLBUR&#x
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There's precedent. Stanford graciously offers WYLBUR's source code for
download:
https://secure-web.cisco.com/1te
Theres a big problem with the stanford distribution that makes it unusable.
Basically, when they did the ASCII<>EBCDIC translation, some characters got
mistranslated. So, it will not assemble.
Joe
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 2:35 AM Timothy Sipples wrote:
> There's precedent. Stanford graciously of
There's precedent. Stanford graciously offers WYLBUR's source code for
download:
https://web.stanford.edu/dept/its/support/wylorv/
Of course SuperWylbur is not WYLBUR:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORVYL_and_WYLBUR#SuperWylbur%E2%84%A2
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What happens
What happens if you do show sysout/ddnames and show sysout/ddnames all?
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Me too.
Joe
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> I've reached out to SSI and asked about this.
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I've reached out to SSI and asked about this.
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Just curious: how big is the user base of SuperWylbur?
And how many of them treat it as more like a hobby?
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Tony Harminc wrote:
>What is (and will be) the licensing status of SuperWylbur? Is there
>potential to turn this into a community maintained project? There are
>surely at least hobbyists out there who would love to play with it.
That's a good idea. The only caveat I can think of is that sometimes
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 07:13, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote:
> Unfortunately SSI is going out of business and is dropping all support Dec.
> 31, 2020 and is not guaranteeing that SuperWylbur will work with 2.4 or
> beyond.
What is (and will be) the licensing status of SuperWylbur? Is there
potenti
later this week and do some tracing and see if I
can see where it might be failing.
Dennis
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It is st
It is still distributed with full source code.
Typically is new JES2 releases that require modules to be re-assembles. I
can't really remember the last time we had to re-assemble or make any changes
because of z/OS upgrades.
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[Default] On 5 Jul 2020 04:13:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
gil...@gmail.com (John S. Giltner, Jr.) wrote:
>Unfortunately SSI is going out of business and is dropping all support Dec.
>31, 2020 and is not guaranteeing that SuperWylbur will work with 2.4 or beyond.
Is Super-Wylbur distributed
Unfortunately SSI is going out of business and is dropping all support Dec. 31,
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Yes I did. Assembles just fine. Even put the code in to indicate z/OS 2.4.
Everything works okay except for the fetch...whi
Dennis,
I would really like to help, but we are at z/OS 2.3 and don't plan on starting
our migration to the next z/OS until early next year. Even though SSI is not
supporting z/OS 2.4 and beyond, I'm hoping to keep SuperWylbur running for
awhile.
Please contact me directly with any finding an
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 18:29:46 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>JTIP?
>
GIYF? https://www.google.com/search?q=JTIP
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GIYF? https://www.google.com/search?q=JTIP
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Did you reassemble (assuming Wylbur code is available) with new JES2 macros?
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Hello -
Anyone here still using SuperWylbur and have it up and running on a z/OS 2.4
system? Bringing up 2.4 now and the JES parts
Did you reassemble (assuming Wylbur code is available) with new JES2 macros?
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Hello -
Anyone here still using SuperWylbur and have it up and running on a z/OS 2.4
system? Bringing up 2.4 now and the JES parts aren't working correctly.
Before I start digging into the code, I wanted to see if anyone else has solved
it.
Thanks,
Dennis
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