Joe, I think many of us are familiar with the issues involved in translating some CCSID's of EBCDIC to ASCII, famously the square brackets and certain other "special" characters.
Do you yourself know (or can you point to any public discussion that lists) the specific character translations that were done wrongly? As I said in an earlier reply, I did see in some of the tar file members that they contain what appear to be legitimate square brackets, so perhaps it is some other (hopefully small) set of characters? ISTM that if one knows specifically what was mistranslated it may be possible to reconstruct what was lost. Not easily perhaps, but it would seem at least possible to programmatically perform a reconstruction, or most of it, and then use IEBIBALL for the rest in the context of the malformed code. It isn't beyond belief that the CCSID of the original source was the 037 variant of IBM EBCDIC, but that is only a guess based on the age of the code. Peter -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Joe Monk Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SuperWylbur Users "instead of being offloaded on the mainframe in AWS or Transmit format, was converted to ASCII, losing some needed characters, and was then compressed as a tar file. " So if you understand the implications of that, then you understand why its useless. Joe On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 3:37 PM David Spiegel <dspiegel...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Joe, > Why is it useless? > > Thanks and regards, > David > > On 2020-07-08 16:25, Joe Monk wrote: > > Yep. And its useless. > > > > Joe > > > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:39 PM David Spiegel > > <dspiegel...@hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Joe, > >> I GUNZIPd and UNTARd WYLBUR via CYGWIN on Windows 10 Pro. > >> > >> Regards, > >> David > >> > >> On 2020-07-08 14:25, Joe Monk wrote: > >>> Here is some info from a while back ... > >>> > >>> There is definitely interest, but the UCLA version, instead of > >>> being offloaded on the mainframe in AWS or Transmit format, was > >>> converted to ASCII, losing some needed characters, and was then > >>> compressed as a tar file. The result won't unpack under Windows; > >>> unpacked files have unacceptable directory and member names. At > >>> this point I'm not aware of anyone who has successfully assembled > >>> any component. If you search the internet for Wylbur, you'll find > >>> a discussion group, with membership partly overlapping this and > >>> the IBM-MAIN groups, according to which > some > >>> people are fairly close to a zOS version. I just got my files > >>> unpacked > a > >>> few weeks ago, and will be using a REXX/Regina program to convert > >>> them to something I can actually process under MVS 3.8j. > >>> > >>> And please, don't try to upload the tar/tgz file - it's useless in > >>> its current form. > >>> > >>> > >> > https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fherc > ules-390.yahoogroups.narkive.com%2FygahqIHc%2Fwylbur-orvyl-milten-and- > friends&data=02%7C01%7C%7C6ce4721ad7de46a4d74908d8237d19a1%7C84df9 > e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637298367511061503&sdata=hHl > HH8doCTvQPoZqlyKvbvHprP8eEnck5JuoWoh3SJk%3D&reserved=0 > >>> Joe > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:15 PM Paul Gilmartin < > >>> 0000000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 09:18:01 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I would *think* -- perhaps I am being naïve -- that one could > >>>>> come up > >>>> with an automated fix for that that would do a 90% job, and then > >>>> fix > the > >>>> last 10% manually. > >>>>> How many lines of source is it (approximately) and in a few > >>>>> words > what > >>>> was the mistranslation error? The usual stuff with braces, > >>>> brackets > and > >>>> such? > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> Fromf Joe Monk > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:13 AM > >>>>> > >>>>> Theres a big problem with the stanford distribution that makes > >>>>> it > >>>> unusable. > >>>>> Basically, when they did the ASCII<>EBCDIC translation, some > characters > >>>> got > >>>>> mistranslated. So, it will not assemble. > >>>>> > >>>> "they"? > >>>> > >>>> What CCSIDs did they presume? What should it have been? > >>>> Iconv is your friend. 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