Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-11-05 Thread ERNESTO FIGUEROA
E. Figueroa DFSMSdss Product Owner From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Radoslaw Skorupka <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Sunday, November 3, 2024 at 3:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Flashcopy consistent clone W dniu 31.10.202

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-11-04 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 04.11.2024 o 17:21, Glenn Wilcock pisze: Hi, I've asked the DSS Product Owner to provide an explanation. Stay tuned... Great! :-) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-11-04 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Hi, I've asked the DSS Product Owner to provide an explanation. Stay tuned... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-11-03 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 31.10.2024 o 16:11, Glenn Wilcock pisze: Here is an example of using DSS to create a FlashCopy consistent clone. Note that for active data, this is considered a 'crash consistent' copy because the consistency is at a physical i/o level, not a logical transaction level. https://www.ibm.

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-10-31 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Here is an example of using DSS to create a FlashCopy consistent clone. Note that for active data, this is considered a 'crash consistent' copy because the consistency is at a physical i/o level, not a logical transaction level. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=group-example (DFSMSd

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-10-30 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Yes. Consistent copy of non-active (in sense of I/O) volumes can be performed in any way, including regular dss copy (with no flashcopy), step by step. However my goal is to perform consistent copy of live system. I did it in my previous shop, however I wasn't the author of the job and it was T

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-10-29 Thread Mike Schwab
Flashcopy copies the track image at the time of the command before the update is written. On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 4:58 PM Michael Oujesky wrote: > > While the source volumes are being updates? > > At 03:47 AM 10/4/2024, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >I need to

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-10-29 Thread Michael Oujesky
While the source volumes are being updates? At 03:47 AM 10/4/2024, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to clone a group of volumes, preferably consistently. Let's say A001 to B001 A002 to B002 ... A03F to B03F Any clue? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland --

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-10-08 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Adding to the prior comment, the DFSMSdss Storage Admin manual describes how to create a consistent FlashCopy with the use of the FCFREEZE, PARALLEL, SERIAL, CGCREATED and ACCVOL keywords: //SYSIN COPY FULL INDYNAM(SRC101) OUTDYNAM(TGT101) ADMIN DUMPCOND FCFREEZE PARALLEL COPY FULL INDYNAM(SRC1

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-10-07 Thread Steve Wong
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Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-10-06 Thread Steve Horein
Not being a spaceman to confirm, I believe this doc, "DFSMS Advanced Copy Services". may have what you want/need: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=dfsms-zos-advanced-copy-services https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=services-flashcopy https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-10-06 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Yes, Flashcopy - that's what I'm asking. :-) I'm asking for some sample script, job, commands to use. That would be the clue. Currently I have a job with series of ADRDSSU steps with COPY ... FR(PREF) It invokes flashcopy under the cover, however It is not consistent across the job steps. I

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-10-04 Thread Ken Bloom
Yes. Especially important if you are flashing data base’s than span volumes. You want them all flashed at the same time so they are “consistent” at that time. In our 8810 we allow the definition of consistency groups and the entire group is flashed at the same time. Ken Kenneth A. Bloom CEO

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-10-04 Thread Pommier, Rex
I've never used it, but doesn't flashcopy have a way of defining consistency groups to do just this sort of thing? Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Friday, October 4, 2024 3:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Flash

Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

2024-10-04 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential Flashcopy (or eqivalent from non-IBM vendors -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Friday, October 4, 2024 3:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Flashcopy consistent clone [CAUTION: This Email is