Hi Radoslaw,

Some thoughts from my many years of coding Flashcopy ......

Flashcopy Consistency groups created using Flashcopy  across multiple volumes 
are  "application dependent write consistentt" and designed for use with 
applications that maintain a log or journal.
The flashcopy source images are not taken at the same "exact" point in  time. 
The consistency group is based upon the volumes in the group being placed in 
"ELB" (extended long busy), which prevents 
typical I/O from processing the volume.  This ensures that write I/O is 
executed in the application desired order.  
This type of processing works well with data bases, with the ability to 
roll-forward or backward using their journals. 

Many vendor products support the Flashcopy consistency process.

FDR ConFCOPY 
DFDSS FCFREEZE

Or it can be accomplished using TSO - REXX or Assembler and the ANTRQST API(s). 

Considerations:
- Using DFDSS with FR(PREF) will perform a Flash, but does not guarantee it is 
using Fast-replication
- Establishing a Flashcopy consistency group using any form of "Consistency 
Group Create" 
        - ELB default is 2 minutes and the Flashcopy relationship will be 
released automatically, so ELB status must be verified before issuing a "THAW"
        - ELB is based on LSS and must be issued to all volumes to be included 
in the Consistency group and the ELB verification must be performed on each LSS 
involved.
        - ELB will prevent read I/O, so do not include any SYSTEM related 
volumes in the consistency group.  Even a FETCH for a program will be delayed 
and may cause an outage.


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-----Original Message-----
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2024 8:27 AM
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Subject: Re: Flashcopy consistent clone

Yes, Flashcopy - that's what I'm asking. :-) I'm asking for some sample script, 
job, commands to use. That would be the clue.

Currently I have a job with series of ADRDSSU steps with COPY ... FR(PREF) It 
invokes flashcopy under the cover, however It is not consistent across the job 
steps.

I guess I am not the first person on Earth trying to make consistent clone of 
volume group and I don't want to reinvent the wheel. :-)

--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland





W dniu 04.10.2024 o 14:43, Allan Staller pisze:
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