Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture)

2020-08-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 18:18:52 +, Rob Scott wrote: >ISFCALLS is an external REXX function - all that is required is that the load >module (it is an alias to ISFYHOST in SISFLOAD) is available via the normal >search sequence. > I have never had to be concerned with this when I call ISFCALLS un

Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture)

2020-08-27 Thread Rob Scott
omitting the ISFCALLS('OFF'). Rob Scott Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture) EXTERNAL EMAIL

Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture)

2020-08-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
: Thursday, August 27, 2020 12:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture) >From what I can see, the original script was a REXX exec and from Chapter 5 in >the SDSF User Guide : "Adding the SDSF host command environment with ISFCALLS Using SDS

Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture)

2020-08-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture) >From what I can see, the original script was a REXX exec and from Chapter 5 in >the SDSF User Guide : "Adding the SDSF host command environment with ISFCALLS Using SDSF with REXX requires that you add a host command enviro

Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture)

2020-08-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 16:10:01 +, Rob Scott wrote: >From what I can see, the original script was a REXX exec and from Chapter 5 in >the SDSF User Guide : > >"Adding the SDSF host command environment with ISFCALLS > >Using SDSF with REXX requires that you add a host command environment prior to

Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture)

2020-08-27 Thread Rob Scott
t does). Rob Scott Rocket Software From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 3:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture) EXTERNAL EMAIL > Any product can dynamically add itself In the c

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-27 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 8/27/2020 3:29 AM, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Ed, Do EMCS messages not go to SYSLOG? If yes, please provide an example. Why does it matter to my EMCS console if some other message destination is experiencing a slow down? Hint: It doesn't. Despite its irrelevancy, the answer to your question

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
n List on behalf of Rob Scott Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 4:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture Chapter 5 of the SDSF User's Guide is entitled : "Using SDSF with the REXX Programming Language" What improvements do you wish to see in the

Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture)

2020-08-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Rob Scott Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 6:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture) Any product can dynamically add itself to the REXX h

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-27 Thread Peter Relson
Ed Jaffe's post was along the lines of what I was thinking as the right approach: -- define a console -- issue the command -- capture messages sent to that console -- do what you want -- undefine the console Some started tasks might send their output to the console that started them rather th

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Ed, Do EMCS messages not go to SYSLOG? If yes, please provide an example. Regards, David On 2020-08-26 23:55, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 8/26/2020 5:03 PM, Steve Beaver wrote: The only reason I can think of a case where the syslog is way behind. Syslog is not relevant here. This is an EMCS consol

Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture)

2020-08-27 Thread Rob Scott
guide to be more explicit and point to the later chapters that describe REXX (and batch). Rob Scott Rocket Software From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 12:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-27 Thread Rob Scott
PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture EXTERNAL EMAIL I guess that it's time for an RCF; invoking SDSF in https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zOSV2R4sc279028/$file/isfa600_v2r4.pdf<https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resource

Re: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture)

2020-08-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
M-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture) On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:27:10 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Well, here there's nothing to escalate; I've generally gotten good responses >from RCFs. > Submitted as below. Has anyone suggestions for a

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 8/26/2020 5:03 PM, Steve Beaver wrote: The only reason I can think of a case where the syslog is way behind. Syslog is not relevant here. This is an EMCS console. -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
fice ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 6:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: MVS modify command capture CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL That 10 at the end of GETMSG is a w

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Charles Mills
--Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 4:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture Shouldn't you have a delay in there to giv the started task time to

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 19:03:10 -0500, Steve Beaver wrote: >The only reason I can think of a case where the syslog is way behind. > This is a symptom of IBM's indolent design. Simply: o Such a command shouldn't return to caller until it's complete and all its output is available. o Or it should w

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Steve Beaver
t; 323-715-0595 Mobile > 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW > robin...@sce.com > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Seymour J Metz > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 4:33 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: MV

SDSF RCF (was: MVS modify command capture)

2020-08-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:27:10 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Well, here there's nothing to escalate; I've generally gotten good responses >from RCFs. > Submitted as below. Has anyone suggestions for additions? Hello, MHVRCFs, Neither z/OS Version 2 Release 4 TSO/E REXX Reference IBM SA32-0972

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
ay, August 26, 2020 5:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture On 8/26/2020 2:39 AM, Peter wrote: > I have a command > > F STARTEDTASK, STATUS > > it gives the output in SYSLOG but I would like to write it's output to > a Dataset What you

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture On 8/26/2020 2:39 AM, Peter wrote: > I have a command > > F STARTEDTASK, STATUS > > it gives the output in SYSLOG but I would like to write it's output to a > Dataset What you want do is trivial using built-

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Bill Johnson
Got it.c Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 5:56 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 8/26/2020 2:39 AM, Peter wrote: > I have a command > > F STARTEDTASK, STATUS > > it gives the output in SYSLOG but I would like to write it's output to a > Dataset What you want do is trivial

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 8/26/2020 2:39 AM, Peter wrote: I have a command F STARTEDTASK, STATUS it gives the output in SYSLOG but I would like to write it's output to a Dataset What you want do is trivial using built-in facilities in REXX. This example writes a stem to the end user. I assume you know how to write

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:27:10 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Well, here there's nothing to escalate; I've generally gotten good responses >from RCFs. > True. I was just reminiscing. So: ( ) TSO Rexx? ( ) UNIX Rexx? ( ) SDSF? Check all that apply. All 3 and let them work it out. The

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
16-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 3:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:30:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Where is that documented? >https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:30:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Where is that documented? >https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zOSV2R4sc279028/$file/isfa600_v2r4.pdf > only lists invoking SDSF from ISPF and directly from TSO. > That's reminiscent of the HLASM Tier 1 who was

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Rob Scott Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 11:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture SDSF has distinct environments that it natively supports on z/OS : 1. ISPF 2. TSO CPPL 3. Batch (and AFD) 4. REXX The

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 11:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 14:50:41 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >That code h

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Charles Mills
: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture The OP does not need the response to the modify, but rather the output from the task when it processes the text in the CIB. That might be di

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture You know, I would think it would be possible -- nearly trivial -- to write a generic Rexx script that would issue any arbi

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:06:08 +, Rob Scott wrote: >

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Charles Mills
You know, I would think it would be possible -- nearly trivial -- to write a generic Rexx script that would issue any arbitrary console command, collect the results, and do "something" with those results -- where "something" was any of the things Rexx can do, such as writing it to a file. Would

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:06:08 +, Rob Scott wrote: >SDSF has distinct environments that it natively supports on z/OS : > > > 1. ISPF > 2. TSO CPPL > 3. Batch (and AFD) > 4. REXX > >The SDSF REXX interface will run where there is a valid REXX environment. > I.e. Provided that Rexx is star

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Peter Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 5:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture I have a command F STARTEDTASK, STATUS it gives the output in SYSLOG but I would like to write it's output to a Dataset On Wed, 26 Aug, 2020, 1:38 pm Seymour J Metz, wrote: &

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 14:50:41 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >That code has to run under SDSF, which is a TSO command. I don't know whether >SDSF will run under a TSO subset environment. No. It is not using the TSO command SDSF but the Rexx command environment SDSF. I have done that directly unde

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Rob Scott
to SDSF REXX. Rob Scott Rocket Software From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture EXTERNAL EMAIL That code has to run under SDSF, which is a TSO command. I

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Dana Mitchell
You could use a System REXX to issue the command and process the output, example: /* REXX */ CmdResult=AXRCMD('F STARTEDTASK,STATUS','OUTPUTVAR.',40); Do I = 1 to OUTPUTVAR.0 Parse var OUTPUTVAR.I p1 p2 . /* do someting here */ End Return Dana On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 13:39:36 +0

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
artin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 07:40:47 -0500, Roger Lowe wrote: >> >>Is there a way to capture a MODIFY command ? >> >Yo

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 07:40:47 -0500, Roger Lowe wrote: >> >>Is there a way to capture a MODIFY command ? >> >You could try this bit of REXX and then invoke it via IKJEFT01 batch jcl - > Does that require TSO or would IRXJCL (or even UNIX mutatis mutandis) sufffice? > /*REXX*/

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Roger Lowe
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 12:55:53 +0400, Peter wrote: >Hello > >I am trying to capture Modify command of a product which is running as >started task. > >I tried issuing the command using IEFBR14 but it did not capture to a >Dataset. > >Is there a way to capture a MODIFY command ? > You could try this

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
u.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 5:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS modify command capture I have a command F STARTEDTASK, STATUS it gives the output in SYSLOG but I

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread David Spiegel
3D&reserved=0 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 4:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: MVS modify command capture Hello I am trying to capture Modify command of a product which is running as started task.

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Peter
Peter > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 4:55 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: MVS modify command capture > > Hello > > I am trying to capture Modify command of a product which is running as > started task. > > I tried issuing the command using IEFBR14

Re: MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 4:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: MVS modify command capture Hello I am trying to capture Modify command of a product which is running as started task. I tried issuing the command using

MVS modify command capture

2020-08-26 Thread Peter
Hello I am trying to capture Modify command of a product which is running as started task. I tried issuing the command using IEFBR14 but it did not capture to a Dataset. Is there a way to capture a MODIFY command ? Peter -- Fo