>From what I can see, the original script was a REXX exec and from Chapter 5 in 
>the SDSF User Guide :

"Adding the SDSF host command environment with ISFCALLS

Using SDSF with REXX requires that you add a host command environment prior to 
any other SDSF host environment commands.

The host command environment is what allows you to use Address SDSF on the 
ISFEXEC and ISFACT commands.

You add the host command environment with the ISFCALLS() function.

You should delete the host command environment, again using ISFCALLS, prior to 
the termination of the exec.

The syntax of the ISFCALLS() function is: rc = ISFCALLS ( 'ON' 'OFF' 
,'SSTYPE=JES2' )

ON adds the SDSF host command environment
OFF deletes the SDSF host command environment
SSTYPE=JES2 requests that SDSF process JES2 rather than determining whether to 
process JES2 or JES3"


I think the above documentation is placed in the correct chapter (as long the 
"Invoking SDSF" section is updated to point to Chapter 5 for REXX).

SDSF is not implicitly activated in REXX, you have to explicitly activate it 
using the ISFCALLS() function (which the original REXX script does).

Rob Scott
Rocket Software

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> Any product can dynamically add itself

In the case under discussion, the script has not invoked SDSF. At a minimum, 
the SDSF documentation should mention that SDSF can be implicitly activated; 
ideally it should mention the relevant contexts.


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Any product can dynamically add itself to the REXX host environment table to 
provide "ADDRESS foobar" style support, so I think that it is the requirement 
of the underlying product to document that fact (rather than TSO or z/OS Unix).

On re-reading the SDSF User Guide, the section on "Invoking SDSF" only mentions 
TSO and ISPF as I believe it is referring to the interactive interface and the 
things you can do on the panels (or screens).

I agree that this is misleading as there other ways of invoking SDSF to get 
data.

I will see if I can get the "Invoking SDSF" section in the user guide to be 
more explicit and point to the later chapters that describe REXX (and batch).

Rob Scott
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:27:10 +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>Well, here there's nothing to escalate; I've generally gotten good responses 
>from RCFs.
>
Submitted as below. Has anyone suggestions for additions?

Hello, MHVRCFs,

Neither z/OS Version 2 Release 4 TSO/E REXX Reference
IBM SA32-0972-40
nor z/OS Version 2 Release 4 Using REXX and z/OS UNIX System Services
IBM SA23-2283-40
mentions that the SDSF command environment ("ADDRESS SDSF")
is available under IRXJCL and Unix System Services. I have
used ADDRESS SDSF in both contexts. I suspect this function
is provided intentionally by IBM with intent to support it.
z/OS Version 2 Release 4 SDSF User's Guide IBM
SC27-9028-40
mentions only that it's available under TSO, not IRXJCL nor
UNIX System Services.

I find UNIX and IRXJCL mentioned somewhat obliquely in
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247419.pdf<http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247419.pdf><http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247419.pdf<http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247419.pdf>>
... but a Redbook is not where most programmers would
seek such documentation.

The availability of "ADDRESS SDSF" under UNIX and IRXJCL
should be mentioned in a Reference manual.

More generally, should the availability of a command
environment be documented in a Rexx manual such as
SA32-0972-40 or SA23-2283-40, or in the manual describing
the commands such as SC27-9028-40? An incomplete list
such as in SA32-0972-40 or SC27-9028-40 is likely to
mislead programmers.

Thanks,
gil

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