On 8/8/2024 7:14 AM, Lennie Bradshaw wrote:
Ed,
Is the OUCBOMVS flag an indicator that the address space is "dubbed"?
Being dubbed is different than being actual OMVS work. Any job type can
become dubbed if it calls the right BPXn services.
We recognize dubbing by looking for a non-zero
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That field is the closest I've seen. Here's are the values I've found.
STC for normal started tasks, including SUB=MSTR,
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That field is the closest I've seen. Here's are the values I've found.
STC for normal started tasks, inc
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For a given ASID, look at OUCB +B0. JES2, STC or TSO should appear.
That is field OUCBSUBN which is not a programming interface. Its commentary
leads me to think that there are additional possible values.
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Ed,
Is the OUCBOMVS flag an indicator that the address space is "dubbed"?
Lennie
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ELSE IF SUBSYS='OMVS' THEN TYPETASK='OMVS';
ELSE DO;
IF PRODUCT='' THEN PRODUCT='';;
IF SUBTYPE=. THEN SUBTYPE=.;
IF PRODUCT='PERFMON ' AND SUBTYPE=3 THEN DO;
TYPETASK='STC';
SUBSY
For a given ASID, look at OUCB +B0. JES2, STC or TSO should appear.
That is field OUCBSUBN which is not a programming interface. Its commentary
leads me to think that there are additional possible values.
Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
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For a given ASID, look at OUCB +B0. JES2, STC or TSO should appear.
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I always thought it was STCBOTCB being non-zero.
Rob Scott
Rocket Software
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Ed,
Is the OUCBOMVS
Ed,
Is the OUCBOMVS flag an indicator that the address space is "dubbed"?
Lennie
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On 8/7/202
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Colin P wrote
char *pJBNI;
char *pJBNS;
pJBNI = (char*)*(long*)(plASCB+ASCBJBNI);// for jobs
pJBNS = (char*)*(long*)(plASCB+ASCBJBNS); // for started tasks
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On 8/8/2024 5:54 AM, Peter Relson wrote:
You might instead consider ASSBJBNS / ASSBJBNI which are not pointers, rather
are the 8-byte values themselves
Just learned something!
Been using the ASCB pointers to CSCB "forever." Totally missed knowing
this character info was copied to ASSB...
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Colin P wrote
char *pJBNI;
char *pJBNS;
pJBNI = (char*)*(long*)(plASCB+ASCBJBNI);// for jobs
pJBNS = (char*)*(long*)(plASCB+ASCBJBNS); // for started tasks
#define ASCBJBNI 172L
#define ASCBJBNS 176L
One or the other will be zero
The last line is not true as written. For example, within
On 8/7/2024 12:35 PM, Steve Horein wrote:
I had similar interests not long ago, and got some direction with CHKTRID
from Binyamin Dissen and Rob Scott:
That is what we use in our code. However, the actual field name is
CHTRKID, not CHKTRID.
Unfortunately, the CSCB doesn't help identify z/OS
Fake it til you make it. :D
Den ons 7 aug. 2024 18:50roscoe5 <
056b62686b81-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> skrev:
> Yep. I’ve been impressed by how helpful and dead wrong ChatGPT can be. It
> has told me to issue commands that don’t exist, etc. When challenged,
> especially if I ask it for th
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On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 3:17 PM Tony Harminc wrote:
> The job ID is in JSABJBID (ASCBASSB -> ASSBJSAB). But I think the OP's
> question was about the *format *of the job ID, and whether there's
> anything other than parsing
On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 3:17 PM Tony Harminc wrote:
> The job ID is in JSABJBID (ASCBASSB -> ASSBJSAB). But I think the OP's
> question was about the *format *of the job ID, and whether there's anything
> other than parsing the beginning of it to see what kind of address space is
> running. JES2 (
On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 16:09:21 +, Lindy Mayfield
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>For the job id on my system, the name starts STC* for started task, TSU* for
>TSO user, JOB* for batch (and sometimes initiatiors), and there seems to be an
>'other' category. But I noticed on another system that the jobid names are
On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 at 14:38, Colin Paice <
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> I have a C program which runs control blocks looking at CPU Usage
>
> char *pJBNI;
> char *pJBNS;
> pJBNI = (char*)*(long*)(plASCB+ASCBJBNI);// for jobs
> pJBNS = (char*)*(long*)(plASCB+ASCBJBN
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I had similar interests not long ago, and got some direction with CHKTRID
from Binyamin Dissen and Rob Scott:
On Fri,
I had similar interests not long ago, and got some direction with CHKTRID
from Binyamin Dissen and Rob Scott:
On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 8:12 AM Rob Scott wrote:
>
>
> If the OP is willing to call an interface instead, the use ERBSMFI and get
> SMF79-1 records and look at the values in R791TAS.
>
>
I have a C program which runs control blocks looking at CPU Usage
char *pJBNI;
char *pJBNS;
pJBNI = (char*)*(long*)(plASCB+ASCBJBNI);// for jobs
pJBNS = (char*)*(long*)(plASCB+ASCBJBNS); // for started tasks
#define ASCBJBNI 172L
#define ASCBJBNS 176L
One or the other will be zero
I dont
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For the job id on my system, the name starts STC* for started task, TSU* for
TSO user, JO
It’s the Range= on the JOBDEF statement. See the JES2 INIT and Tuning
Ref. for more info.
On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 11:50 AM Michael Babcock
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> If I remember correctly, the name’s first few characters are different
> based on the max job numbers set in JES2. Using large job numbers means
>
If I remember correctly, the name’s first few characters are different
based on the max job numbers set in JES2. Using large job numbers means
there is less room for the first few non numeric characters.
On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 11:09 AM Lindy Mayfield <
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Yep. I’ve been impressed by how helpful and dead wrong ChatGPT can be. It has
told me to issue commands that don’t exist, etc. When challenged, especially if
I ask it for the IBM manual for reference, it often backs up, apologies, and
gives a revised answer. But sometimes it is very helpful.
Se
ChatGpt was by the way wrong. There is no ASCBTYP field in the ASCB with a hex
value that says STC, TSU, JOB, etc. A little googling shows from where it got
that confusion.
This is still impressive the answer AI gave. At least to me.
/
By the way, still looking for what control block co
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For the job id on my system, the name starts STC* for started task, TSU* for
TSO user, JOB* for batch (and sometimes initiatiors), and there seems to be an
'other' category. But I noticed on anoth
For the job id on my system, the name starts STC* for started task, TSU* for
TSO user, JOB* for batch (and sometimes initiatiors), and there seems to be an
'other' category. But I noticed on another system that the jobid names are
different. Out of curiosity, where is that naming defined? I
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