WAY off topic; was The mainframe is alive

2025-03-04 Thread Bob Bridges
se doing them badly (or at least more badly). --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you're not failing when you train or test your security, you're not learning anything. -Craig Tucker */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behal

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Cognizant

2025-02-26 Thread Bob Bridges
list hat on, I suggest that employers ARE paying Indians prevailing rates - for Indians. Naturally they're happy with shorter pay than Americans, and naturally that reduces somewhat the rate Americans can get for the same services. Are there labor laws that require a different outco

Re: Good COBOL article

2025-02-24 Thread Bob Bridges
quot;That sounds terrific," said Jack. "But I'm curious: Why is everybody so interested in me?" "Well," said the Prime Minister. "The year 10 000 is just around the corner, and it says in your files you know COBOL..." --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.co

Re: What ARE the JES proclibs?

2025-02-18 Thread Bob Bridges
instructed to do so and even then with fear and trembling, but I get the impression that all the 'D' commands are safe, ie, cannot accidentally change something about the system. Would that be correct? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* My new thesaurus is terri

Re: What ARE the JES proclibs?

2025-02-17 Thread Bob Bridges
but before I do, is there anything about the PROC command that I could use to ~change~ something? I'm looking for audit authority, not sysprog authority; I want look-but-don't-touch, in other words. If no one knows already, I'm sure I can look it up somewhere. --- Bob Bridges, robh

What ARE the JES proclibs?

2025-02-17 Thread Bob Bridges
tta be somewhere in the startup parms, right? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* You must be prepared to do some serious turning inward toward the life of the imagination, and that means, I'm afraid, that Geraldo, Keith Obermann, and Jay Leno must go. Reading t

Re: Idea received: Provide a negative exclude command for EDIT and VIEW

2025-02-08 Thread Bob Bridges
;return;"; PFK9 is "rfind", PFK21 is "rchange". So PFK8 is "down" and PF20 is "down m;up 1;". After reprogramming a few of my keys in the emulator, I just hit and for top and bottom. Works well for me, and less to remember (especially after having d

Re: Idea received: Provide a negative exclude command for EDIT and VIEW

2025-02-08 Thread Bob Bridges
hrough the dataset looking only at NX lines and excluding any that don’t contain "txt". Any lines that have "txt" but were already excluded should stay excluded. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who

Re: Idea received: Provide a negative exclude command for EDIT and VIEW

2025-02-07 Thread Bob Bridges
GS)"; address ISREDIT 'EXCLUDE ALL' 'FIND ALL' args /* Display counts. */ if rc=0 then do; '(VF VL) = FIND_COUNTS'; vf=vf+0; vl=vl+0; end else do; vf=0; vl=0; end call adhocmsg vf'/'vl,'Found' args vf 'times on' vl 'lines.&#x

Re: How to identify caller of subroutine in REXX

2025-02-06 Thread Bob Bridges
if it has to abend because of some error it can say (eg) MYROUTIN abending with RC 8. Loss often I use CALLTYPE, but I can look at that and decide whether to return a value to the calling program or SAY it. The rest of the PARSE SOURCE data I never use. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail

Kale

2025-01-21 Thread Bob Bridges
Normally I like to include attribution on these taglines, but I'm afraid I ran into that at some random location and can't tell you where it came from. I promise I didn't invent it myself, though. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Opportunity is

Re: Does this make any sense?

2025-01-19 Thread Bob Bridges
I took for granted that the original writer means a 29% reduction FOR THAT PARTICULAR DATASET, not overall CPU usage. Maybe I was mistaken. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you suck at playing the trumpet, that's probably why. */ -Original Message-

Re: REXX Outtrap Secret

2025-01-17 Thread Bob Bridges
al and find that bit again. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* While the best judge of Christianity is a Christian, the next best judge would be something more like a Confucian. The worst judge of all is the man now most ready with his judgements: the ill-educat

Re: REXX Outtrap Secret

2025-01-17 Thread Bob Bridges
yway, so #1 doesn't apply :). --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Cooking tip: If you cook your kale with a little coconut oil, it makes it easier to scrape it into the garbage. -YS @NYinLS2121 */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of bill

Re: File transfer question

2025-01-16 Thread Bob Bridges
Ten replies not counting the OP's, and NOT A SINGLE responder actually addressed his question?! --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Whoever gossips to you will gossip about you. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil

Re: AI makes stuff up

2025-01-15 Thread Bob Bridges
x27;m just springboarding into a topic much on my mind recently. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* D'you call life a bad job? Never! We've had our ups and downs, we've had our struggles, we've always been poor, but it's been worth it, ay, wor

Re: AI makes stuff up

2025-01-14 Thread Bob Bridges
desire for the echo chamber, like most other people. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Children need love, especially when they do not deserve it. -Harold S Hulbert */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B Dyck Sent

Re: AI makes stuff up

2025-01-13 Thread Bob Bridges
as telling the exact, literal truth: That is indeed what he wants around him, people who will tell him the truth even if they fear he'll fire them for it. Of course he'd be foolish to fire someone just for that --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The creditors a

Re: Pipes

2025-01-13 Thread Bob Bridges
Right, someone else should give it away. ~I~ don't want to develop the full product and then not charge for it, but IBM should. Sorry, just the capitalist in me sniping a little. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I must study politics and war that my sons may

AI makes stuff up

2025-01-13 Thread Bob Bridges
and often even idiomatic, but there's no ability to discern when TRUTH is required. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I would as soon write free verse as play tennis with the net down. -Robert Frost */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussio

Pipes

2025-01-13 Thread Bob Bridges
>From my VERY limited exposure in this forum and by examining PowerShell >scripts written by others, I get the impression that pipes are fabulous. But >I live in TSO, so no opportunity to use pipes ... right? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Q: What does t

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Bob Bridges
"Cargo-cult management", I like that! --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Q: What does the 'B' in "Benoit B Mandelbrot" stand for? A: Benoit B Mandelbrot. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf O

Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF

2025-01-10 Thread Bob Bridges
Yeah, I've a REXX exec named SAYNR that does the same thing - passes a string to a CLIST that just does a WRITENR with the string. Nice, but it's not like I use it very often - not, indeed, as though it's really even necessary. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, ce

"Recently" is relative

2024-12-06 Thread Bob Bridges
k "recently" is any time in the previous millennium. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Men are qualified for civil liberty, in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetitesSociety cannot exist unless a controling power u

Re: Heh, "Sabre is Getting Off the Mainframe-One Way or Another"

2024-11-29 Thread Bob Bridges
ny of the three cases. I no longer worry that my days there are numbered. A contractor always gets sent home eventually, but I doubt it'll be because they suddenly completed that project. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It's never good news when a bunch

Re: Listing proclibs

2024-11-18 Thread Bob Bridges
learn something by doing my own research, if you count asking here as "learning for myself". As usual, though, it turns out the answer's more complicated than I'd hoped. Oh well, sigh, suck it up and learn anyway. I'm expanding my horizons. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid.

Re: X'00' bytes, Notepad and Windows 10 vs 11

2024-11-18 Thread Bob Bridges
Ack! Yet another reason I'll put off migrating to Win 11. I ~use~ Notepad, also Wordpad. (Word used to be fairly decent, not as good as WP but it did have its strengths. I think they kept adding features to it until it got too complicated to work properly.) --- Bob Bridges, rob

Re: Listing proclibs

2024-11-13 Thread Bob Bridges
system down. Yeah, I know, all the $D commands are look-only (right?). Maybe I'll do it, if I gather my courage. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I see people wearing winter coats and hats. What a bunch of sheep! LOL! I did my own research and found that

Listing proclibs

2024-11-13 Thread Bob Bridges
mewhere. Better yet, the method is probably documented in the z/OS instructions. Can someone fill me in, please? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Being famous has its benefits, but fame isn't one of them. -Larry Wall */ -

Re: What is a "programming language"? Was:: Modifying JCL on the fly

2024-11-11 Thread Bob Bridges
Hm, I may have to cede this point. It's why I like these discussions. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. -Voltaire */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sc

"Colossus"

2024-11-11 Thread Bob Bridges
be nice to believe he isn't aware of the Forbin project. That's assuming the video is accurate, of course. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There was never a democracy that did not comm

Re: What is a "scripting language"?

2024-11-11 Thread Bob Bridges
n case I haven't been clear enough, by the definition I prefer, a scripting language just has a series of instructions, without looping or decisions and with only rudimentary computation. That's why I keep mentioning QMF. JCL blurs the line a bit. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@

Re: What is a "scripting language"?

2024-11-11 Thread Bob Bridges
eparate word for languages that can be used in that way, and this especially because I sense a slight condescension in the term ("it's not PL/1, after all, just a scripting language"). --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* One very sound rule for the care o

Re: What is a "programming language"? Was:: Modifying JCL on the fly

2024-11-11 Thread Bob Bridges
y call .bat a "language" too. Not sure what if anything that proves. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The Christian is in a different position from other people who are trying to be good. They hope, by being good, to please God if there is one, o

Re: Old ISPF application scripting from batch?

2024-11-08 Thread Bob Bridges
Just as an aside, it's true there aren't many contributions to ISPF-L. But apparently its members are still checking it frequently. I do, at any rate, and whenever I post a question there I see replies promptly. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The Ch

TSOCOMMAND

2024-10-29 Thread Bob Bridges
in order to check for the recovery files. Oh, well. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made of meat? */ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / ar

"Signaling", "canceled", "controling" etc.

2024-10-03 Thread Bob Bridges
quot;; the last vowel is short but emphasis is on a previous syllable. (I make an exception for "kidnapped"; I can't bring myself to follow the rule and write "kidnaped".) "capped", "compelled", "subbed": Short vowel AND emphasized on th

Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted?

2024-09-18 Thread Bob Bridges
at installation seems to do anyway. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Hmmm, I found a strange piece of plastic on the floor that looks like it broke off of something, but I have no idea what. Better save it in the junk drawer until I die. */ -Original Message

Is z/OS FTP encrypted?

2024-09-16 Thread Bob Bridges
bunch of things uploaded using IND$FILE, what about moving them from one complex to another? Is FTP encrypted once I'm talking between two mainframes? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* ...in February, United States coalition-building efforts are dealt a severe b

Re: SDSF-REXX question

2024-09-09 Thread Bob Bridges
, waited a half second or so and then asked again. Like yours, this had to be a fast-running job. I'm a lot hazier on the details than I thought I would be when I started this email, but I'm pretty sure of all the above. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* A h

Re: Simple Rexx question

2024-08-22 Thread Bob Bridges
any other routine avoid that? I'm sure you have something in mind, but I don't know what. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Don't be daunted and intimidated by the thought police. Despite what they'd have you believe, you are not a criminal. Sti

Re: Simple Rexx question

2024-08-22 Thread Bob Bridges
ever routine uses it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The cities are for money but the high-up hills are purely for the soul. -from _Galloway_ by Louis L'Amour */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lennie Bradshaw Sent:

Re: Simple Rexx question

2024-08-22 Thread Bob Bridges
ysreason=sysreason+0 if result=16 & wordpos(sysreason,'1 2 3 27 28')=0, then say 'DSDD: FDD' dx result sysreason return result<16 | wordpos(sysreason,'3 27')>0 --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* We must picture Hell as a stat

Re: Simple Rexx question

2024-08-21 Thread Bob Bridges
sn't programmed into it, so that I can add it to the code, but I haven't seen that message in years. I just checked the documentation I wrote for it; it returns not a two-digit reply but the values 0, 1, 2 or 3, which I must interpret as representing two bits as described above. --

Re: Comments on ASAXWC?

2024-08-14 Thread Bob Bridges
Hm, you're causing me to wonder whether my REXX routine worked as well as I thought. That bit about 'Q' appearing multiple times has me doubting; how did I handle that part of the logic? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Engineers will go without food

Re: Comments on ASAXWC?

2024-08-14 Thread Bob Bridges
In Top Secret, '*' is any string of up to eight characters (INCLUDING a period, which I abhor - this despite that there are a lot of things I like about Top Secret), '-' is any string of characters, and '+' is any one character. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail

Re: Comments on ASAXWC?

2024-08-13 Thread Bob Bridges
7;t that hard. But maybe REXX isn't anything you can use in this case. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Doing the right thing is always doing the right thing. Even if nobody else is doing it. -Reddit user LordCoale in _The Mercy of Humans_ */ -Original Me

Re: Regina rexx translate error

2024-08-01 Thread Bob Bridges
I know you have it fixed by now, but just out of curiosity, does it produce the same error if you use a null string for the output? XXX = TRanslate(XXX,'','"') --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Doing the right thing is always doing the ri

Re: Buggy updates

2024-07-21 Thread Bob Bridges
hink the problem with some of those Office apps is that they used to be really good, but they keep adding stuff to it. There's a point, isn't there?, at which you can't pile on more stuff without breaking other things. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /*

Buggy updates

2024-07-21 Thread Bob Bridges
x27;s defense, Word didn't have those bugs to struggle with at each new release. Yeah, I know even MS isn't perfect. And the recent disaster wouldn't have been nearly such a disaster if MS weren't so ubiquitous; we need diversity in computer hardware and software to keep stuf

Re: Off topic discussions

2024-07-10 Thread Bob Bridges
There's an empty whiteness after the '--' below. Can't swear it's an ASCII 20, but it seems probable. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you're not paying for it you're not the customer, and if you're not the customer, yo

Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-04 Thread Bob Bridges
to write longer and more complex apps in REXX than most people, but once I caught on to OO programming I became an enthusiast. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* My aunt has rather selfishly suspended her production of chocolate cake because of the whole "broken hip&

Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-02 Thread Bob Bridges
he way. I need the practice in the features it has that TSO-REXX doesn't. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* "Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you at the proper time." (1 Peter 5:6) It is our job to humble

Re: Data Set Commander Monitor (DSCMON) Access Authority

2024-06-26 Thread Bob Bridges
I've seen it in CICS, of course. Never in TSO. I rarely get into other environments. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Let the righteous smite me in kindness and reprove me. It is oil upon my head; do not let my head refuse it. -Psalms 141:5 */ -Ori

Exits (was RMDS error DBNV016)

2024-06-23 Thread Bob Bridges
Although I gather z/OS now allows them to be in REXX. I'm a REXX enthusiast and HLASM is still in my future, but I have to wonder whether that's a good idea. I gotta believe exits get hit a lot; surely it would be a drag on the system? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, ce

Re: WIn-10 FTP logon failing after upgrade to z/OS 2.2

2024-06-21 Thread Bob Bridges
off). I guess that wouldn’t produce an error message in TSS, but it would on the OMVS side - and I don't know how to look at those, having been a TSO user since 1980. I know a few things about OMVS, but not nearly enough. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* A de

Re: WIn-10 FTP logon failing after upgrade to z/OS 2.2 - never mind!

2024-06-21 Thread Bob Bridges
sume the script will work too. Sorry, all. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It is a settled policy of America, that as peace is better than war, war is better than tribute. The United States, while they wish for war with no nation, will buy peace with none. -James Ma

WIn-10 FTP logon failing after upgrade to z/OS 2.2

2024-06-21 Thread Bob Bridges
---> QUIT 221 Quit command received. Goodbye. So the correct password is getting there. Or, wait, maybe it isn't; the mainframe connection didn't sent it back to the client, so it's gotta be Win FTP that told me what it sent. May still be wrong at the other end. I gotta beli

Re: As a long-time Rexx programmer

2024-06-15 Thread Bob Bridges
couple tries to get it right, but after that I'm never going to look at it again so I don't feel the need to do all the extra typing in order to make it obvious to the passing eye. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Back in the old days, most families were clo

Re: As a long-time Rexx programmer

2024-06-14 Thread Bob Bridges
It used to, until I started doing a lot more coding in VBA, where double quotes are the rule for literal strings. Now I find myself using double-quotes reflexively in REXX, too - very much to my dismay, because I'm with you, why use two fingers where one will do? --- Bob Bridges, rob

Re: Execute Rexx from Cobol

2024-05-07 Thread Bob Bridges
days. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Jonny snorted. "You mean out among the decadence of the big worlds? Come on, Jame, you don't really believe that sophistication implies depravity, do you?" / "Of course not. But someone's bound to try a

Re: Mainframe performance tool replacement

2024-05-07 Thread Bob Bridges
I think I'm about to reveal my obsolescence: Where my clients didn't use SAS, they mostly used DYL-280II or QuikJob. Or REXX, of course. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Jonny snorted. "You mean out among the decadence of the big worlds? Come on,

Re: Netview

2024-04-27 Thread Bob Bridges
"Also Known As...". --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I believe what really happens in history is this: The old man is always wrong, and the young people are always wrong about what is wrong with him. The practical form it takes is this: that, while the o

ooRexx forum?

2024-04-22 Thread Bob Bridges
), but it didn't seem to me any of the recent posts there were about REXX, much less ooRexx specifically. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you are not being criticized, you may not be doing much. -Donald Rum

Re: REXX vs other languages -- EXECIO intuitiveness

2024-04-21 Thread Bob Bridges
Oh, Unix. Sorry, you did say "OMVS", I just didn't pay attention. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The sad thing for us rationalists is that the vast majority of the human race would rather be told that "two and two is five and make no mistak

Re: REXX vs other languages -- EXECIO intuitiveness

2024-04-21 Thread Bob Bridges
Wait, what? Are you saying TSO-REXX has LINEIN, CHAROUT and so on? ...Although I do think EXECIO is nicely flexible. Still, I find myself looking up the syntax occasionally when doing something unusual. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* [Hitler] has grasped the

Re: REXX vs other languages -- EXECIO intuitiveness

2024-04-21 Thread Bob Bridges
te the problem malware, which was an unwelcome chore. Still, I enjoyed the hunt. And Rexx is really, really good at that sort of text interpretation. (Programming is so cool!) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Law #36 of combat operations: Radar tends to fail at n

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-20 Thread Bob Bridges
Well, they may not be reserved, if you say so. But I think I'd be a fool to try using "is", "if" or "in" as a loop counter, certainly for the sake of the programmer who inherits my work but I'm sure it would confuse me too. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-20 Thread Bob Bridges
been coding too many decades; I can't FEEL it. I probably won't adopt it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Crossbows don't kill people; quarrels do. -from a conversation at a Patrick-O'Brian listserv */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfram

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-20 Thread Bob Bridges
Ooh, I'm sure I've read that I can do that but I forgot. I like that - think I'll start doing it myself. Normally I'm rabid about indentation, but occasionally in a longer program I lose track of something and have to spend a of time searching for where I left out an E

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-20 Thread Bob Bridges
d one-character variable names, always two or more. (What do I use for loop counters?, you ask. I use 'j' plus another letter; 'jr' for records, for example, 'jd' for days whatever. More obvious would have been 'i', but there are too many two-letter rese

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-19 Thread Bob Bridges
Oh, I dunno. Generalizations aren't invalid as long as you don't mistake them for blanket stereotypes, and generalizations are the only possible way to describe general groups. I see no cause for offense here. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Be kin

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-18 Thread Bob Bridges
it's rare indeed that I feel the need to specify that a variable is going to be BYTE, STRING or whatever. So obviously, coding in typeless REXX doesn't bother me 😊. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* This universe is full of magical things patiently waiting

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-17 Thread Bob Bridges
the way you describe it, I suspect I'm missing something. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Taxation ~with~ representation isn't all that great, either. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rony G. Flatscher Sent

Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Bob Bridges
Triangle? Aren't they the ones who published IOF back around Y2K? Sounds awfully familiar. But that was a long time ago; maybe I'm thinking of a different product. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Government exists to protect us from each oth

Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Bob Bridges
Ack! When? Why?? IOF was always my favorite, though I haven't seen it in a decade or two. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It would be nice to spend billions on schools and roads, but right now that money is desperately needed for political ads. -Andy Bor

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-18 Thread Bob Bridges
se it for automation on my own machine, but that’s all. Ruby -- no, never have. Again, what environment(s) is it available on? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* When I have a little money, I buy books; and if I have any left, I buy food and clothes. -Erasmus */ -Or

Re: Learning one's tools

2024-03-17 Thread Bob Bridges
h are then parsed and evaluated upon returning to the calling program. Me, I probably would've used ISPF pool variables, but I'm not sure that would be easier to follow. So far I don't mess with it much; it works. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Eve

Re: Learning one's tools

2024-03-17 Thread Bob Bridges
I really gotta get back into PL/1. It was my first language, and I still like it. Just haven't used it in a few decades. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The more sophisticated the technology, the more vulnerable it is to primitive attack. People often ove

Re: Learning one's tools

2024-03-17 Thread Bob Bridges
t ways in which they didn't do it right. But I agree with Shmuel, when done right you might even say they're necessary. (And post-surgical reviews, too. The patient lived, or the patient died, fine, but now we want to know what to do differently next time.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid

Re: Algol

2024-03-17 Thread Bob Bridges
error, the probability of it ending anywhere near the error point is nil." I've often bewailed the loss of that article; many of its observations are still relevant today. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I know everyone thinks Republicans aren't funny

Re: Learning one's tools

2024-03-16 Thread Bob Bridges
s probably 26.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -Daniel Webster */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, March 15,

Algol

2024-03-16 Thread Bob Bridges
O and string-handling functions and got along just fine, it seemed to me. Haven't encountered it since; I don’t know what advances may have been made in that arena. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* That sort of wit which employs itself insolently in criti

Re: Hmm, 3 ... (Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-16 Thread Bob Bridges
Surely that's moon-pie and dreamscapes? There's no serious suggestion that that will ever happen, is there? I'm all for it, but don't expect it ever. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Sometimes you feel like a nut. After a day of working o

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-15 Thread Bob Bridges
t I said about being interested in tacking on a next language. I hear a lot about Lua these days.... --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Thousands of years ago, Egyptians worshiped cats. Cats have never forgotten this. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-15 Thread Bob Bridges
at environment(s) would I use them? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Sometimes you feel like a nut. After a day of working on a walnut farm, you don't. -Mike Rowe of the TV show "Dirty Jobs" */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussi

Re: 0C4 error upon calling an external REXX module!

2024-03-15 Thread Bob Bridges
LOL. As my college Greek teacher told me, when I complained about an illogicality - well, he waxed eloquent on a number of points on that subject, but he finished with "...you'll find it a lot easier to learn it than to change it". --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, ce

Re: Learning one's tools

2024-03-15 Thread Bob Bridges
Heh - I just used this tagline in an email to someone else, and it seems appropriate here. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I find that when someone's taking time to do something right in the present, he's a perfectionist with no ability to prioritize, wh

Re: Learning one's tools

2024-03-15 Thread Bob Bridges
My boss at a later job heartily agreed with you, Shmuel. Not coïncidentally, I liked him a lot :). --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* You must ask for God's help. Even when you have done so, it may seem to you for a long time that no help, or less help than you

0C4 error upon calling an external REXX module!

2024-03-15 Thread Bob Bridges
. So all I gotta do is rename my LOG module and reïnstate the calls using the new name. But it sure kept me awake a few nights first. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It is well to remember that the en

Learning one's tools

2024-03-15 Thread Bob Bridges
NG and UNSTRING are unusual commands and some COBOL coders would be unfamiliar with it. My contention here is that that's absolutely true, and it's the job of the COBOL coder to ~learn~ the STRING and UNSTRING statements, as tools of his profession. I never persuaded anyone to th

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-15 Thread Bob Bridges
tand exactly what it does. I don't trust it, and I haven't yet bothered to learn to be comfortable with it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* As a father, I have a vested interest in seeing my children do well in school. If they don't, they won&#x

Re: bpxwunix

2024-03-07 Thread Bob Bridges
I've a REXX subroutine that uses DFSORT (or is it SYNCSORT?) to sort the stack, but this is easier. But it's gonna work only if I have at least a UID and GID, right? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It is always the right time to do the right thing. -Mar

Re: 35th International Rexx Symposium in Birsbane (Australia) about to start

2024-03-04 Thread Bob Bridges
think it's a pretty feature-poor example of it, but what else would you call it if not "object-oriented"? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* In order to write for "The A-Team", you'd have to be a much better writer than most of those who wri

Re: Changes to user's TSO PROFILE

2024-03-04 Thread Bob Bridges
(Although come to think of it I guess PREFIX/NOPREFIX isn't one of the fields recorded in TSS. I don't remember about ACF2 or RACF.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you have a problem with me, text me. And if you don’t have my number, you don’t kn

Re: Changes to user's TSO PROFILE

2024-03-04 Thread Bob Bridges
Protect, no, but since many of the fields in the TSO profile are recorded in the security ID, mightn't they at least track the changes when they occur? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Politicians used to understand, without being told, that they didn't n

Re: 35th International Rexx Symposium in Birsbane (Australia) about to start

2024-03-04 Thread Bob Bridges
ng". Heck, I'm satisfied if "object-oriented" means merely that I can define objects and create instances of them. All the other stuff about inheritance and other even more arcane features, they're great, but I wouldn't say a language cannot be object-oriented wit

Re: 35th International Rexx Symposium in Birsbane (Australia) about to start

2024-03-03 Thread Bob Bridges
otherwise, thanks for the information. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The Constitution is supposed to define the powers of the federal government -- authorizing some powers, which are enumerated, while reserving all other powers to the states and the people. This mean

Re: 35th International Rexx Symposium in Birsbane (Australia) about to start

2024-03-02 Thread Bob Bridges
I'm curious what "dynamic" means in this context. All I can think of so far is "frequently changing", but that doesn't seem to fit; it sounds like you mean something much more specific, rather as "object-oriented" means a very particular thing in coding.

Re: [Very much off-topic] Re: AI is the real deal.

2024-02-22 Thread Bob Bridges
Speaking of old predictions: /* By 2005 or so, it will be clear that the Internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine's. -Paul Krugman, Nobel-prize-winning economist in 1998 */ --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 -Origin

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