Re: Programming Hardware

2023-07-04 Thread Bruce Hewson
talking hardware, Home (and WFH) setup. I like a screen big enough that I can use 62x160 TN3270 sessions,. I am using a Samsung SD27D850 1440p monitor for the last 8 years. Good clear characters. Running a Corsair K100 RGB Opto-mechanical keyboard with 6 macro keys. Good for coding CTRL-C CTRL

Re: Programming Hardware

2023-07-04 Thread Tom Brennan
I never used the click option on my 3278 - the keys clicked enough without it. In the 2000's when we worked in standard size cubicles, I had my old 1987 PC clicky keyboard and folks nearby jokingly complained about the noise. "Jokingly" meaning they didn't want to cause a fuss, but they still

Re: Programming Hardware

2023-07-04 Thread Bob Bridges
I don't care about the sound of the 3270 keyboards - you could turn it off, and I frequently did - but I liked the little tactile bump in my fingertips when I'd made contact. Whenever I hit a key and didn’t depress it QUITE far enough, my fingers knew it immediately, and I backed up to retype t

Re: Programming Hardware

2023-07-04 Thread Bob Bridges
I switched to a Logitech trackball a couple decades back, the Marble Mouse, and have been a trackball fan ever since. (I gather people love 'em or hate 'em; I turn out to be in the former camp.) I usually keep a spare or two around, because I've long had the same problem you describe: After a wh

Re: Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-04 Thread Bob Bridges
I care enough to google it only if someone else cares enough to request that I send them a copy. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people wh

Re: Programming Hardware

2023-07-04 Thread Steve Thompson
I too seem to wear out key caps, that is, the paint wears off them. This is kind of OK, since I am a touch typist... I typically have been purchasing upper end Logitech keyboard/mouse combos that use the USB dongle. Why? because I connect it to a KVM switch so that they switch between the mac

Re: Programming Hardware

2023-07-04 Thread Mike Schwab
Did see some wireless car shaped mice on Amazon for $12. Have not purchased any. On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 6:54 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > > I've had the same problem on logitech track balls. > > BTW, does anybody still make mini trackballs for laptops. > >

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Phil Smith III
John McKown wrote: {grin} S0C1 is documented. Basically means "you goofed up". Yeah, I know that. I meant, as you did, that having a more meaningful error would be useful. Same if you EXEC something that it can't find-error is bewildering to a newbie, and why? -

Re: Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-04 Thread Phil Smith III
Bob Bridges wrote: >I have a copy on my phone, but I haven't tried to run it recently. If it >works, I wonder whether there's a way to send a copy, if anyone wants it? You can create a .apk from the app and send that. I have an old Euchre game that's been discontinued and have moved it to severa

Re: Programming Hardware

2023-07-04 Thread Farley, Peter
+1 from me. I am completely converted to using the MS "Natural 4000" style of "ergonomic" keyboard (curved, split keyboard but normal 102+ keys), I find it far more comfortable for the large amount of typing I do for work and play. I tend to wear out the keycaps long before the rest of the keyb

Re: Programming Hardware

2023-07-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
I've had the same problem on logitech track balls. BTW, does anybody still make mini trackballs for laptops. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jeremy Nicoll Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 7:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Pro

Re: Programming Hardware

2023-07-04 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, at 00:27, Steve Smith wrote: > The one thing Microsoft does well is mouses. Logitech is also good. Logitech used to be good but in my recent experience I'd say they are putting too-cheap microswitches in them. I've had three mice (of different Logitech models) all start si

Programming Hardware

2023-07-04 Thread Steve Smith
imho, investing in the tools of my trade is a no-brainer. For us, it's far cheaper than many professions. A mechanical-switch keyboard is worth it, even if it only lasts for a year. (I (so far) haven't ruined one with a spill, and both are going strong after several years. Decent ones can be had

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread Bob Bridges
I said I always buy a "real" keyboard (and monitor, and trackball) to plug into a laptop. I have thought hard about spending real money on them, too, or at least on the keyboard considering how much time I spend on mine. But so far I've gone the other way. About once a year I spill a Coke on

Re: Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-04 Thread Bob Bridges
I have a copy on my phone, but I haven't tried to run it recently. If it works, I wonder whether there's a way to send a copy, if anyone wants it? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* even though our political rhetoric is more conservative today, power keeps accumulat

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread Mike Schwab
https://www.twindata.com/keyboards/twindatakeyboards.htm 5250 / 3270 keyboards w PS/2 or USB connector. IBM 3270 APL converted to USB. https://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/1394625 On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 3:39 PM rpinion865 <042a019916dd-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Don't rememb

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread rpinion865
Don't remember the manufacturer, I want the actual 3270 keyboard with the USB connect. Sent from Proton Mail mobile Original Message On Jul 4, 2023, 3:53 PM, billogden wrote: > Interesting discussion on screen sizes, keyboards, etc. Many of us have > various different opinion

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
I know what it does; I'm just not convinced that it was appropriate. Yes, DCBDDNAM is repurposed; no information is lost because of DCBTIOT (this was before XTIOT.) From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread billogden
Interesting discussion on screen sizes, keyboards, etc. Many of us have various different opinions. My opinions have changed since the early days when some of us (the "older" ones) used 2260s instead of 3270s. I am using a 21" screen at the moment, with three "windows" open on it. I would not want

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 14:34 Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 19:02:47 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > >I'm not convinced that it would have been too expensive in OS/360. > > > It was considered so expensive that OPEN overlays the DDNAME i

Re: Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-04 Thread Laurence Chiu
With the ubiquity of Amazon devices it's likely the OP has one of these (Echo, Dot etc.) Just say Alexa Play Colossal Cave and it will play the game for you. XYZZY :-) On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 6:19 AM Mike Schwab wrote: > Install Linux on Android, 3270 emulator, Turkey 4-, then the games? > > On

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 19:02:47 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I'm not convinced that it would have been too expensive in OS/360. > It was considered so expensive that OPEN overlays the DDNAME in the DCB, presumably to save 8 bytes of storage. The DDNAME is unnessary after OPEN unless something goes

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
I'm not convinced that it would have been too expensive in OS/360. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of John McKown Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 2:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 0C1 abend On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 13:08 Paul Gilma

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 13:08 Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 12:22:26 -0500, John McKown wrote: > > > >{grin} S0C1 is documented. Basically means "you goofed up". I would like > >some Snnn-hh which specifically means "attempted I/O on a DC

Re: Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-04 Thread Mike Schwab
Install Linux on Android, 3270 emulator, Turkey 4-, then the games? On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 12:09 PM Phil Smith III wrote: > > Y'all might think about changing subject lines occasionally. ;) > > > > Alas, the Colossal Cave seems to not be compatible with current Android > versions. I take that to

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
That sounds like a job for ChaatGPT From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of John McKown Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 1:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 0C1 abend On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 12:13 zMan wrote: > Indeed. It's hard to see

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 12:22:26 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >{grin} S0C1 is documented. Basically means "you goofed up". I would like >some Snnn-hh which specifically means "attempted I/O on a DCB (or ACB) upon >which an OPEN was attempted, but failed." It might even be nice to have the >address initia

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 12:13 zMan wrote: > Indeed. It's hard to see how doing so would break anything, since it's > already broken by definition, more or less. One can (barely) imagine > someone setting a trap to recover from such a thing, but c'mon... > > Oh, wait, you don't consider an 0C1 to be

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread zMan
Indeed. It's hard to see how doing so would break anything, since it's already broken by definition, more or less. One can (barely) imagine someone setting a trap to recover from such a thing, but c'mon... Oh, wait, you don't consider an 0C1 to be documented? /s On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 12:23 PM Jo

Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-04 Thread Phil Smith III
Y'all might think about changing subject lines occasionally. ;) Alas, the Colossal Cave seems to not be compatible with current Android versions. I take that to mean the developer has lost interest. Too bad; seemed like a nice blast from the past time-waster! ---

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread Tom Brennan
LOL haven't heard that since I was a kid watching a b/w TV. On 7/4/2023 1:06 AM, rpinion865 wrote: What about Pimento University, good old PU. Sent from Proton Mail mobile Original Message On Jul 4, 2023, 7:32 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: LOL On 7/3/2023 8:30 PM, Eric Erickson wr

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 10:04 Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 13:03:41 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > > * Failing to test DCBOFOPN after OPEN > > > I'm guessing that's the consequence of branching to an invalid access > method pointer

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Andrew Wilkinson
In my recollection, you get whatever is at DCB+x31. Given the OPEN has failed, the value is likely to be in your DCB expansion at assembly time. I recall values such as x200050 (QSAM with MACRF=PM) . Andrew On 04/07/2023 16:04, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 13:03:41 +, Seymour J

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 11:34:57 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: >Hi Shmuel AMV"SH, >My experience has been that when the OPEN fails (e.g. missing/incorrect >ALLOCATion), the program gets an x13 ABEND and does not get as far as >checking DCBx. >

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes; the exact address depends on DCBMACRF. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Tuesday

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
I would expect x13 when the ddname exists but is not correctly specified; I would be shocked to get an x13 for a missing ddname. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on be

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Shmuel AMV"SH, My experience has been that when the OPEN fails (e.g. missing/incorrect ALLOCATion), the program gets an x13 ABEND and does not get as far as checking DCBx. Regards, David On 2023-07-04 09:03, Seymour J Metz wrote: * Failing to test DCBOFOPN after OPEN -- Shmuel

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 13:03:41 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > * Failing to test DCBOFOPN after OPEN > I'm guessing that's the consequence of branching to an invalid access method pointer after OPEN fails. Is the value of that pointer prdictable after OPEN fails? -- gil

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
* Failing to test DCBOFOPN after OPEN -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Peter Relson [rel...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:15 AM To: IBM-MA

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-04 Thread Peter Relson
As Tom M mentioned, there are "commonly" encountered general situations. It seems the same question would apply to almost any error encountered; Operation exception is probably one of the easier ones to diagnose in many cases. Some of the "commonly" would be * Wild branch to uninitialized

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread rpinion865
What about Pimento University, good old PU. Sent from Proton Mail mobile Original Message On Jul 4, 2023, 7:32 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: > LOL On 7/3/2023 8:30 PM, Eric Erickson wrote: > PLUGH! > > > -- > For >