RE: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

>-Original Message- >From: Mindaugas Kavaliauskas [mailto:dbto...@dbtopas.lt] >Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 5:43 PM >To: Harbour Project Main Developer List. >Subject: Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder [...] >I've d

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

> > The Xbase++ visual class part maybe, but the backend > is Windows-only so it doesn't fit Harbour at the moment. > We'd need a portable GUI API under it. GTK or QT. > > QT is now available in LGPL, which may fit Harbour and > Harbour apps, but I'm no law expert. QT is much smoother > than GTK, A

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

> > > MSVC 2008, MSVC 2005, MingW/GCC 4.x, OpenWatcom. > > [ BCC only to do quick draft Harbour builds and to clean code from > > warnings/errors. ] > Very good suggestion > have you link for sdk required msvs2008 with harbour? No sorry, it's somewhere on MS's website. > a static lib written fo

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

2009/2/3 Viktor Szakáts : > But it's not in fact optimized for MingW. This is a multicompiler > project, we can only recommend, but not decide on behalf of the > users. We can only make suggestion to enhance their final result. > There are many factors, so even this isn't always obvious. > Preferre

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Massimo Belgrano wrote: > Speedtest notice you difference in speed between bcc & MINGW? Yes. I've posted results on this list back then. There are also pretty extensive C compiler benchmark pages on the net, and the overall conclusion is that the slower the compi

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

> > Wich is your prefered list today? > Can be made same works for give speed to a particular compiler > and write "Optimized for mingw" (only for example) But it's not in fact optimized for MingW. This is a multicompiler project, we can only recommend, but not decide on behalf of the users. We c

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

Speedtest notice you difference in speed between bcc & MINGW? or ignore difference due to use windows heap functions instead of dlmalloc, ptmalloc ? can you post me a reduced example who show difference in speed (bcc,mingw) 2009/2/3 Mindaugas Kavaliauskas : > Hi, > I've done some mingw tests in

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

2009/2/3 Viktor Szakáts > We can make such recommendation, or even better > give a priority list of compilers / platforms supported > by Harbour. I've posted one such possible priority at > around release 1.0. This way we may gently shift > focus on the long run. Wich is your prefered list today?

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Massimo Belgrano wrote: > Agree all your assertionso i revise: > bcc is only most used in windows with [x]harbour (due to last 10 year) > Why not write in the upcoming harbour website mingw as suggested harbour > compiler for win32? > any opinion? > We can make su

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

Hi, I do not want to start discussion who is better. I just can say, why I'm using BCC. It has 8.9MB single install file. I've also downloaded MSVC install CD, but understood I do not have enough free space on C:\ to install it :) There are many talks about calling conventions, but until k

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

Agree all your assertionso i revise: bcc is only most used in windows with [x]harbour (due to last 10 year) Why not write in the upcoming harbour website mingw as suggested harbour compiler for win32? any opinion? 2009/2/3 Viktor Szakáts > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Massimo Belgrano wrot

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Massimo Belgrano wrote: > I think that bcc is the most used in windows platform not the best No serious compilers on the free (and non-free) software marked use BCC. It's a historical thing that Harbour picked it up (*), and developers followed suit 10 years ago a

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

> > hbmk_vc is different from hbmk_b32 and from hbmk and from hbmk_gnu > gtwvg\sample\demowvg.prg for example is require differrent way > required lib and required switch must be included in source prg > my dream is > hbmk myprg and i found and i found myprg.exe created with correct lib and > swit

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

Viktor Szakáts wrote: Instead, you may encapsulate the MSVC dependent functionality into a self contained .dll, and try using that .dll with the GCC linked executable. This may also have some tricky bits, but these are documented on the net and most probably solvable with some playing around.

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

I haven't tried doing that. It seems a very bumpy road, and I'm not very positive this is possible at all, unless GCC linker gets support for MS .lib format, calling/naming conventions. And even then there is the potential problem of resolving CRTL functions. Instead, you may encapsulate the MSVC

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

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Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

I think that bcc is the most used in windows platform not the best same library are ready only for bcc like sqlrdd,mediator, ecc so i agree with a tool ready to use for bcc user like me In my opinion most organization is not a problem or at lest is not considered Using bcc licences to individual

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

2009/2/3 Viktor Szakáts > Today is still difficult compile harbour sample/contrib because one require >> special switch , one require more file in >> > > This is simply not true. [ Or if you have a specific examples, please > tell, and it will be fixed. ] > > For contribs you only need to run: >

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

Hi Viktor I tried to use Mingw and GCC some while back, but I use some MSVC compiled commercial libs and so could not proceed. Do you know of any solutions for linking MSVC libs with GCC code? Thanks Alex ___ Harbour mailing list Harbour@harbour-pro

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

tor 2009/2/3 Horodyski Marek (PZUZ) > >From: Viktor Szakáts [mailto:harbour...@syenar.hu] >Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:54 PM >To: Harbour Project Main Developer List. > Subject: Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable

RE: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

From: Viktor Szakáts [mailto:harbour...@syenar.hu] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:54 PM To: Harbour Project Main Developer List. Subject: Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

Viktor Szakáts escribió: MSVC 2005 and above (Express Edition is free). or GCC 4.x, if you want to stick with open tools, but GCC has a few drawbacks on Windows (executable size). Thanks very much. Best Regards GVS ___ Harbour mailing list Harbour@h

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

MSVC 2005 and above (Express Edition is free). or GCC 4.x, if you want to stick with open tools, but GCC has a few drawbacks on Windows (executable size). Brgds, Viktor On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Guillermo Varona Silupú wrote: > Viktor Szakáts escribió: > >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:17 AM,

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

Viktor Szakáts escribió: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Massimo Belgrano > wrote: A distribution ready to use is a very good idea because Xmate is the best editor Borland is most used c compiler on windows platform For the whole picture it's worth men

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Massimo Belgrano wrote: > > A distribution ready to use is a very good idea because Xmate is the best > editor > Borland is most used c compiler on windows platform > For the whole picture it's worth mentioning that BCC is the worst mainstream compiler, end-of-line

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Massimo Belgrano wrote: > Borland is most used c compiler on windows platform Do you have any evidence of that? Have you read and accepted license.txt? --- cut --- You may install a copy of the Software on a computer and freely move the Software from one compute

Re: [Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

A distribution ready to use is a very good idea because Xmate is the best editor Borland is most used c compiler on windows platform I dream that the project format of xmate (xhp) must be used also from other make/command line tool so for a user will be more easy compile all sample Today is stil

[Harbour] Out-of-Box usable Harbour Distribution with XMate Project Builder

Hello Everybody Download http://www.vouch.info/downloads/hrb_dev_20090202.zip This distribution offers out of the box usage through xMate Project Builder. Please note that this distribution is meant for end-user applns/libs only. This is BCC55 distribution. Steps to getting started: 1) Unzip