Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add systemd.

This is one hell of a write-up for an april-fools.. Does it build though? Marius Bakke transcribed 14K bytes: > Guix, > > As discussed at FOSDEM, it is clear that The Shepherd does not have what > it takes to boot a modern Linux system. While it works today, adding > bootloader, DNS server, NTP

Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add systemd.

Efraim Flashner transcribed 17K bytes: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 02:22:59PM +0200, Marius Bakke wrote: > > Guix, > > > > As discussed at FOSDEM, it is clear that The Shepherd does not have what > > it takes to boot a modern Linux system. While it works today, adding > > bootloader, DNS server, NT

Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add systemd.

Marius Bakke transcribed 10K bytes: > Efraim Flashner writes: > > >> +(build-system meson-build-system) > >> +(arguments > >> + `(#:tests? #f ;FIXME: The disable-broken-tests phase is > >> ineffective. > >> + #:configure-flags > >> + (let ((bash(as

Why is the default user group "users"? and: rights and access to /var/mail

Hi, can someone tell me why in gnu/system/shadow module you thought it would be a good idea to default to "users" as a shared group for all accounts created as normal user profiles? Reason why I'm asking has a second question attached: Why does our opensmtpd-service (and dovecot?) create /var/mai

Re: building GNUNet

Catonano transcribed 6.6K bytes: > Fellow guixers, > > I bilt GNUNet both on my Fedora desktop withh guix on top of Fedora AND on > my GuixSD laptop > > In both cases the same problem comes up > > This line works > > guix build -f ./guix-env.scm > > But then, if I try to build GNNet locally, l

Re: An April 1 joke? Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add systemd.

Svante Signell transcribed 542 bytes: > Hi, > > Seeing this on April 1st I really hope it is a joke. If not I'm not We hoped it would be very obvious, but yes, it's an April fools. Even when Marius(?) went through great length of building (no pun intended) it up. It even builds. We'll continue to

Re: An April 1 joke? Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add systemd.

Nils Gillmann transcribed 805 bytes: > Svante Signell transcribed 542 bytes: > > Hi, > > > > Seeing this on April 1st I really hope it is a joke. If not I'm not > > We hoped it would be very obvious, but yes, it's an April fools. Even when > Marius(?) w

Re: building GNUNet

Nils Gillmann transcribed 3.0K bytes: > Catonano transcribed 6.6K bytes: > > Fellow guixers, > > > > I bilt GNUNet both on my Fedora desktop withh guix on top of Fedora AND on > > my GuixSD laptop > > > > In both cases the same problem comes up > >

Re: Why is the default user group "users"? and: rights and access to /var/mail

Nils Gillmann transcribed 1.3K bytes: > Hi, > > can someone tell me why in gnu/system/shadow module you thought > it would be a good idea to default to "users" as a shared group > for all accounts created as normal user profiles? > > Reason why I'm asking h

Re: Looking for Thunderbird/Icedove

Rene transcribed 1.2K bytes: > Hello, > > GNOME Evolution is another graphical mail-reader; > currently it is not packaged, but the important part is that it requires the > evolution-data-server service that does not exist either. > > See more: > https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution I'm confus

Re: Looking for Thunderbird/Icedove

Björn Höfling transcribed 1.2K bytes: > One of my key customers needs a new GNU/Linux installation and they are > willing to give GuixSD a try if Thunderbird is available. > > I thought that's no problem and was surprised to not find anything > like Icedove in the guix repository. > > I found two

Re: 01/01: gnu: Add perl-inline-c.

Roel Janssen transcribed 509 bytes: > > Roel Janssen writes: > > > Ludovic Courtès writes: > > > >> Hi Roel, > >> > >> r...@gnu.org (Roel Janssen) skribis: > >> > >>> +(license (package-license perl > >> > >> Could you use (license perl-license) instead? It doesn’t make any > >> differ

Re: Looking for Thunderbird/Icedove

Mark H Weaver transcribed 1.3K bytes: > Hi Nils, > > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > Björn Höfling transcribed 1.2K bytes: > > > >> Are there any more recent news on the Thunderbird side? Does anyone have > >> more-or-less ready snippets available? > >

Re: 01/01: gnu: Add perl-inline-c.

Mark H Weaver transcribed 826 bytes: > Nils Gillmann writes: > > >> > Ludovic Courtès writes: > >> > > >> >> r...@gnu.org (Roel Janssen) skribis: > >> >> > >> >>> +(license (package-license perl >

Re: Looking for Thunderbird/Icedove

Mark H Weaver transcribed 751 bytes: > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > Mark H Weaver transcribed 1.3K bytes: > >> Did someone tell you that you shouldn't post a preliminary > >> Thunderbird/Icedove package definition to this mailing list? > > > > No.

Re: Looking for Thunderbird/Icedove

Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.1K bytes: > Hello, > > Björn Höfling skribis: > > > On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 20:02:23 + > > Nils Gillmann wrote: > > > >> The patches would apply nowhere then, I'm sending a tarball of the > >> work. You can ig

Re: An April 1 joke? Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add systemd.

Memory might serve me wrong, but I think we had such a april's fool in the last years before and it backfired equally *and* we agreed on not doing it again? Would be good if people had more sense for spotting sarcasm and humor, but not everyone has this.

Re: [bug#31076] gnurl 7.59.0

Ludovic Courtès transcribed 474 bytes: > Hi, > > Nils Gillmann skribis: > > > Seems like ftp.gnu.org is currently either very slow or having troubles > > with the actual software distribution. The signatures landed on there, > > the rest has yet to materialize. &

Re: [bug#31076] gnurl 7.59.0

Nils Gillmann transcribed 1.3K bytes: > Ludovic Courtès transcribed 474 bytes: > > Hi, > > > > Nils Gillmann skribis: > > > > > Seems like ftp.gnu.org is currently either very slow or having troubles > > > with the actual software distribution. The s

Re: [bug#31076] gnurl 7.59.0

Ricardo Wurmus transcribed 1.2K bytes: > > Nils Gillmann writes: > > >> I'm looking into switching gnurl to bmake + mk-config. I've already got the > >> tools on my side. > >> Do you want me to continue the native autotools support for Guix in gnur

2nd message: guix pull occasionally errors

My previous message is still in the whitelisting time, but: First I ran guix pull (3rd guix pull with new guix pull mechanism). An error occured. I ran it again, error gone. The following derivations will be built: /gnu/store/7b8zpi91v86hna3sch8lpx45qzngnb38-guix-df1eaffc3.drv /gnu/store/l4zws3m

Re: You say nix, I say guix: Nix 2.0 and Guix

Chris Marusich transcribed 1.4K bytes: > Hi, > > On February 22nd, Nix 2.0 was released: > > https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#ssec-relnotes-2.0 > > It contains a lot of interesting new features. Are there any plans to > merge some of the nix-daemon changes into our guix-daemon? Is > compatibility

guix pull on HEAD crashes

On a commit from ~30 minutes ago, guix pull fails: substitute: updating list of substitutes from 'https://berlin.guixsd.org'... 100.0% substitute: updating list of substitutes from 'https://mirror.hydra.gnu.org'... 100.0% The following derivations will be built: /gnu/store/7b8zpi91v86hna3sch8lpx

Re: Guix on android blog post

Pjotr Prins transcribed 495 bytes: > On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 05:12:34PM +0530, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > > This is gold!! Thanks so much for sharing. > > Totally agree. Great work Julien a.o. Praphrasing one of the greats: > what works on large systems tends to work on small. With minimized > siz

a GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH / modules puzzle

Hi, I'm not sure if guile-users / -dev liste is more appropriate. If it is, let me know. I'm currently still using GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH until I got my layout all set up. There's an issue that I can't seem to get rid of, I'll try my best to describe it now: I have package definitions in 2 reposito

Re: Packaging a free Firefox

Clément Lassieur transcribed 1.5K bytes: > > Clément Lassieur writes: > > > Hi, > > > > I find Icecat very buggy, even if I compare it to a home-made Firefox > > package that inherits Icecat (and thus is very close to Icecat). For > > example I can't even pay with my credit card with icecat-52-

Re: Packaging a free Firefox

Nils Gillmann transcribed 2.4K bytes: > Clément Lassieur transcribed 1.5K bytes: > > > > Clément Lassieur writes: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I find Icecat very buggy, even if I compare it to a home-made Firefox > > > package that

Re: a GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH / modules puzzle

Chris Marusich transcribed 3.0K bytes: > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm not sure if guile-users / -dev liste is more appropriate. If it is, let > > me know. > > > > I'm currently still using GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH until I got my layou

Re: a GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH / modules puzzle

Chris Marusich transcribed 2.3K bytes: > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > Anyways, in which section of the guile Manual would I find "pk"? I've > > done surprisingly little debugging with Guile itself so far. > > Unfortunately, pk isn't (yet?) documen

Re: Packaging a free Firefox

Pjotr Prins transcribed 650 bytes: > On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 01:59:24PM -0400, Mike Gerwitz wrote: > > I use IceCat personally and FF Dev Edition at work. Until the recent > > move to WebExtensions, I used the same addons. I use NoScript and Tor > > and have no problems. But I rarely enable JS a

Re: Packaging a free Firefox

Mike Gerwitz transcribed 2.2K bytes: > On Sat, May 05, 2018 at 19:06:27 -0300, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: > > I have noticed somepeople advocating for packaging Firefox in GNU Guix, > > and since FF still has freedom issues, I see it as a no-go. > > A simple option for now is to package FF by d

Redefining the maximum path length [Fwd: Re: [GNUnet-developers] using $TMPDIR instead of /tmp]

from Christian Grothoff - > On 05/06/2018 08:34 PM, Nils Gillmann wrote: > > Christian Grothoff transcribed 2.9K bytes: > >> On 05/05/2018 09:58 PM, Nils Gillmann wrote: [snip] > > I've changed the config files, now the problem for us in Nix and Guix > > will be

Re: Redefining the maximum path length [Fwd: Re: [GNUnet-developers] using $TMPDIR instead of /tmp]

Leo Famulari transcribed 2.5K bytes: > On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 06:59:23PM +0000, Nils Gillmann wrote: > > we did some changes in GNUnet where my part of the job reminded me again > > of the path length Linux has as default. > > > > I know there's at least (only?)

Re: Redefining the maximum path length [Fwd: Re: [GNUnet-developers] using $TMPDIR instead of /tmp]

Leo Famulari transcribed 3.0K bytes: > On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 07:27:46PM +0000, Nils Gillmann wrote: > > I have inserted a build log of a failing test from > > GNUnet commit f13af7e7281064380def70d0b4392b4351211655 > > [...] > > > TEST: Viewing all s

Re: Updating librsvg

Marius Bakke transcribed 5.2K bytes: > Hello! > > Our current version of librsvg is officially unmaintained, and the > latest version requires Rust. > > I've succeeded in making the latest version build, but there are a > couple of problems. > > * Module dependency cycle:

Re: a GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH / modules puzzle

Okay, here's what I learned: * except for source code, the modules itself in Guile aren't very * detailed documented. The documentation is good, but... ... it's * nowhere mentioned that you can have a module (foo bar baz) and * possibly also (foo bar baz kim) but (foo baz bar bar) will lead to *

Re: a GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH / modules puzzle

Nils Gillmann transcribed 2.1K bytes: > Okay, here's what I learned: > > * except for source code, the modules itself in Guile aren't very > * detailed documented. The documentation is good, but... ... it's > * nowhere mentioned that you can have a module (foo bar b

Re: a GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH / modules puzzle

Nils Gillmann transcribed 1.4K bytes: > Nils Gillmann transcribed 2.1K bytes: > > Okay, here's what I learned: > > > > * except for source code, the modules itself in Guile aren't very > > * detailed documented. The documentation is good, but... ... it's

Re: a GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH / modules puzzle

Nils Gillmann transcribed 1.9K bytes: > Nils Gillmann transcribed 1.4K bytes: > > Nils Gillmann transcribed 2.1K bytes: > > > Okay, here's what I learned: > > > > > > * except for source code, the modules itself in Guile aren't very > > >

Re: a GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH / modules puzzle

Chris Marusich transcribed 3.0K bytes: > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm not sure if guile-users / -dev liste is more appropriate. If it is, let > > me know. > > > > I'm currently still using GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH until I got my layou

Re: a GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH / modules puzzle

Ricardo Wurmus transcribed 1.0K bytes: > > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > Here's what's happening now: > > > > I took my perl module which is in "pkgs/lang-perl/perl.scm", which contains > > our basic perl packages, > > and moved ( + r

Re: Code of Conduct and Diversity Statement

swedebugia transcribed 1.7K bytes: > Hi > > On May 13, 2018 2:27:22 AM GMT+02:00, Tonton wrote: > >Hi, > > > ... > > should we make the CoC more prominent or > >somehow > >inform about it better? For example by putting it or a link to it in > >the topic > >of the IRC channel, as it's own page on

Re: “Tarballs, the ultimate container image format”

Ludovic Courtès transcribed 173 bytes: > Hello Guix! > > On ‘guix pack -R’: > > > https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/blog/2018/tarballs-the-ultimate-container-image-format/ > > Enjoy! :-) > > Ludo’. > Nice! Nitpick: You technically require tar + gzip for the code in the example, which is

Re: [PATCH] website: Add section section and links to code of conduct

Tonton transcribed 3.8K bytes: > I realize as I'm updating the CoC in the source and adding it to the info > docs, that the original introduction from contributing was much nicer. It > has a positive focus. Should I change the paragraf under to use > something like the following from contributing:

Re: Packaging a free Firefox

Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.1K bytes: > Hello Katherine, > > Katherine Cox-Buday skribis: > > > E.g. I've seen several people in this thread mention they had already, > > or were trying to, package Firefox (myself included). Had there been an > > official non-libre channel, this work might not

Re: Packaging a free Firefox

Christopher Lemmer Webber transcribed 1.2K bytes: > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.1K bytes: > >> Hello Katherine, > >> > >> Katherine Cox-Buday skribis: > >> > >> > E.g. I've seen several people

new guix on Debian builder is amnesic about its builder group

Hi, this is the 3rd reinstall of Guix I'm doing because every reboot the daemon, run with the defaul values, no changes, keeps forgetting about its group: build machine: root@cult ~ # guix build --verbosity=10 hello guix build: error: build failed: the group `guixbuild' specified in `build-user

Re: new guix on Debian builder is amnesic about its builder group

Nils Gillmann transcribed 2.4K bytes: > Hi, > > this is the 3rd reinstall of Guix I'm doing because every reboot the daemon, > run with the defaul values, no changes, keeps forgetting about its group: > > build machine: > > root@cult ~ # guix build --verbosity

Re: new guix on Debian builder is amnesic about its builder group

Leo Famulari transcribed 1.5K bytes: > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 04:06:30PM +0000, Nils Gillmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > this is the 3rd reinstall of Guix I'm doing because every reboot the daemon, > > run with the defaul values, no changes, keeps forgetting about i

Re: Updating udisks: New dependencies (libblockdev, volume-key, dmraid, libbytesize, ndctl...)

Pierre Neidhardt transcribed 1.3K bytes: > > I'm working on updating udisks from the "old legacy" version (which is > currently packaged in Guix) to version 2.7.6. > > https://github.com/storaged-project/udisks > > It turns out to be much harder than expected! Recent versions of udisks >

Re: Cleaning up make clean's behavior

Hi Jeremiah, jerem...@pdp10.guru transcribed 946 bytes: > As running make clean breaks the bootstrap script. > I propose we leverage git's shallow clones (git clone --depth 1 $URL) > and include the .git directory with the repo such that we could simply > have make clean check for git and if it ex

Re: my latest blog post

Catonano transcribed 7.7K bytes: > Mark, > > 2018-06-07 19:03 GMT+02:00 Mark H Weaver : > > I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on this. I wanted to apologize > > for making you feel badly; it honestly was not my intent to shame you in > > any way. > > > > Thank you for your kind and measure

Re: 2 ideas (Was: Re: bug#31518: [PATCH 10/21] gnu: Add emacs-google-translate.)

swedebugia transcribed 2.8K bytes: > Hi > > On June 8, 2018 4:49:34 PM GMT+02:00, l...@gnu.org wrote: > >Hi Pierre, > > > >Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > > > >> * gnu/packages/emacs.scm (emacs-google-translate): New variable. > > > >[...] > > > >> + (home-page "https://github.com/atykhonov/goog

Re: my latest blog post [everyone, please take a cooldown break]

Hi, I think it would be best if everyone involved would cool down for a couple of days, restructure their thoughts and reflect on this thread. Look at what they are doing, and at how they are reacting to other peoples reaction. This topic is getting quiet heated, and other than the maintainers we

[shepherd] herd status suggestion

Hi, right now we have this view: abyayala$ sudo herd status tor Status of tor: It is stopped. It is disabled. Provides (tor). Requires (user-processes loopback syslogd). Conflicts with (). Will be respawned. Last respawned on Sun Jun 10 08:08:45Z 2018. Would it be an option to cha

Re: 2 ideas (Was: Re: bug#31518: [PATCH 10/21] gnu: Add emacs-google-translate.)

swedebugia transcribed 1.6K bytes: > Hi Ricardo > > On June 10, 2018 1:35:00 PM GMT+02:00, Ricardo Wurmus > wrote: > > > >Hi Nils, > > > >> I think we discussed something similar briefly. Or at least package > >> attached metadata which ends up in a '/guix' folder of the output. > >> I've been

Re: [shepherd] herd status suggestion

Ricardo Wurmus transcribed 982 bytes: > > Hi Nils, > > > abyayala$ sudo herd status tor > > Status of tor: > > It is stopped. > > It is disabled. > > Provides (tor). > > Requires (user-processes loopback syslogd). > > Conflicts with (). > > Will be respawned. > > Last respawned on S

Re: [shepherd] herd status suggestion

Ludovic Court??s transcribed 1.3K bytes: > Hello Nils, > > Nils Gillmann skribis: > > > Ricardo Wurmus transcribed 982 bytes: > >> > >> Hi Nils, > >> > >> > abyayala$ sudo herd status tor > >> > Status of tor: &g

Re: 2 ideas

Chris Marusich transcribed 2.2K bytes: > Ricardo Wurmus writes: > > > It could be useful to have application-specific setup notes in a > > well-known location that is gathered when the profile is built. > > Maybe we could begin by adding a simple, optional field > ("post-install-notes", maybe?)

couple of crashes while guix package -u for (libreoffice, kodi, rust, blender)

since HEAD of today (and also 2 days, since I started updating): * rust is failing a (tiny?) part of its testsuite: failures: [run-pass] run-pass/out-of-stack.rs stdout error: test run failed! status: exit code: 101 command: "/tmp/guix-build-rust-1.23.0.drv-0/rustc-1.23.0-src/build/x

Re: couple of crashes while guix package -u for (libreoffice, kodi, rust, blender)

Ricardo Wurmus transcribed 1.3K bytes: > > Hi Nils, > > > * rust is failing a (tiny?) part of its testsuite: > > […] > > note: Run with `RUST_BACKTRACE=1` for a backtrace. > > Have you tried that to see the backtrace? > > > * blender, because of imageio: > > Here you seem to have elided the ac

Re: couple of crashes while guix package -u for (libreoffice, kodi, rust, blender)

Ricardo Wurmus transcribed 1.2K bytes: > > Nils Gillmann writes: > > >> > * libreoffice, because of liborcus: > >> > > >> > checking for MDDS... yes > >> > checking for LIBIXION... no > >> > configure: error: Package requirem

Re: Guix Manual in epub format

swedebugia transcribed 1.6K bytes: > Hi > I use an ebook reader for reading long detailed documents and books. > I would like a copy of the guix Manual on my reader. > I searched a little and there seem to be no ready tool to convert info2epub. > > I found this: > > latexml --dest=$1.xml $1.tex >

Re: Chrooting into GuixSD

Hartmut Goebel transcribed 493 bytes: > Am 13.06.2018 um 06:04 schrieb swedebugia: > > I succeeded to chrooting into the system and set a new password. I > > used an arch-image on an USB. > > > > Is this ability to chroot into GuixSD worth mentioning in the manual? > > IMHO it is not worth to be

Re: Chrooting into GuixSD

Thorsten Wilms transcribed 1.2K bytes: > On 13.06.2018 10:13, Nils Gillmann wrote: > > > > Is this ability to chroot into GuixSD worth mentioning in the manual? > > > IMHO it is not worth to be mentioned in the manual, as it is the same as > > > for all Linux syste

Re: Python 2 retirement — what should Guix do?

Leo Famulari transcribed 1.9K bytes: > In 2020, Python 2 will no longer be supported by the Python team. [0] > > To quote Guido van Rossum, "The way I see the situation for 2.7 is that > EOL is January 1st, 2020, and there will be no updates, not even > source-only security patches, after that dat

Re: Suboptimal experience

Dan Partelly transcribed 1.0K bytes: > > > > > > Thank you for your advice :) I think you're right: we are still beta, so > > errors are to be expected from time to time. We should fix them before we > > go 1.0. That said, the system is robust enough that you can always recover > > from said err

Re: Fwd: bug#31907: Acknowledgement (New users get wrong/old profile path to guix after reconfiguring )

swedebugia transcribed 5.0K bytes: > Hi > > I just reported this bug. > > As a reaction to the recent guix pull update and the people who had a bad > experience I have an idea. > > We create a new guix command that > 1) analyze the current users paths and tell them if > 1.1) they are good and

Re: Bleeding edge documentation

swedebugia transcribed 1.0K bytes: > Hi > > I would like to have a continously updated documentation for guix on the > webpage in addition to the release documentation. > > I'm trying to read up on guix and the guix.texi file is hard to handle on a > mobile device and it is quite cumbersome. >

Re: Bleeding edge documentation

Ricardo Wurmus transcribed 888 bytes: > > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > swedebugia transcribed 1.0K bytes: > >> Hi > >> > >> I would like to have a continously updated documentation for guix on the > >> webpage in addition to the release documen

Re: Bleeding edge documentation

Joshua Branson transcribed 1.1K bytes: > Ricardo Wurmus writes: > > > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > >> swedebugia transcribed 1.0K bytes: > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> I would like to have a continously updated documentation for guix

Re: preparing the next release v0.15.0

Is it worth mentioning that guix pull for some time now is back to relatively decent 1GB RAM consumption? I think I had it even succeed on 512MB RAM per handwritten notes here, but I haven't had the possibility to test again on low specs.

hplip qt

Tobias Geerinckx-Rice added in 407ef4b38ad394e0b63320b029d95afdd3da6888 support for Qt to Hplip. What feels like a lifetime ago, my patch with the same intention was reviewed and to be worked in a separation of Qt and hplip, which I found reasonable at that time but drowned in all the branches I

gnumaint changes

Hi, could someone verify (I have an old checkout) that guix/gnu-maintenance.scm still works? gnupackages.txt is dead in gnu.org womb CVS. Thanks

Re: gnumaint changes

Ludovic Courtès transcribed 450 bytes: > Hello, > > Nils Gillmann skribis: > > > could someone verify (I have an old checkout) that guix/gnu-maintenance.scm > > still works? > > gnupackages.txt is dead in gnu.org womb CVS. > > ‘guix lint -c gnu-descriptio

Re: preparing the next release v0.15.0

Ludovic Courtès transcribed 2.1K bytes: > Hello! > > Clément Lassieur skribis: > > > I think we need https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=30602 to > > be fixed. > > Done. \o/ > > With Guile 2.2.4 now released, we can go ahead with 0.15. Could people > build the ISO installation ima

Re: GNU Guix & GuixSD 0.15.0 released

Hooray :) Nitpick and complain: Could we please send this to guix-devel as TO and use BCC for the rest or even: separate emails? I'm getting so many duplicates with every release. I know it's a timesaver, but cross-posting and then people replying with "reply to all" to cross-posted messages can

Re: [doc RFC] Tame the Guix profile blizzard?

George Clemmer transcribed 1.4K bytes: > ISTM our doc is a veritable "Profile Blizzard." > > > The term occurs 173 times in guix.texi > > > The "user profile" is referred to in multiple ways: > > (guix) Application Setup: "your Guix profile" > > (guix) Features: 'own “profile”', "per-user p

Re: [doc RFC] Tame the Guix profile blizzard?

George Clemmer transcribed 733 bytes: > Hi Nils, > > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > 4) before each profile kind is used for the first time, > > make use of something like this for the brief introduction > > of it again (our manual is not very long,

Re: Firefox 52's end of life, packaging Icecat 60

Clément Lassieur transcribed 1.1K bytes: > Hello, > > As this blog article[1] says, Firefox 52's end of life will happen on > August 28, 2018. That is, in 47 days. I imagine that by that time > Icecat 60 will be released, but it seems that we are pretty far from > being able to package it, becau

Re: gnumaint changes

Mike Gerwitz transcribed 3.7K bytes: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 17:57:01 +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Mike Gerwitz skribis: > > [...] > > >> Do you have a couple examples of what you think would be beneficial to > >> pull form Guix? I'm certainly open to the idea where it mak

Re: Guix support in cachix

Ludovic Courtès transcribed 540 bytes: > Hello, > > Marius Bakke skribis: > > > It looks useful for those who don't want to or can't publish their own > > substitutes. And `guix challenge` makes it easy to verify the builds > > coming from a particular "channel". > > I agree that it can be use

Re: %desktop-services now depends on Qt 5, via colord

Efraim Flashner transcribed 2.9K bytes: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 02:00:38PM -0400, Mark H Weaver wrote: > > Hi Tobias, > > > > m...@tobias.gr (Tobias Geerinckx-Rice) writes: > > > > > nckx pushed a commit to branch master > > > in repository guix. > > > > > > commit 407ef4b38ad394e0b63320b029d95

MATE 1.20

Would anyone like to take on the task of updating MATE desktop in Guix? -> https://mate-desktop.org/blog/2018-02-07-mate-1-20-released/ If no one signals working on it next month, I'll put it on my TODO list for August. Thanks

Re: Extracting a reachability path out of a (package) DAG

Björn Höfling transcribed 74K bytes: > Hi Guix, > > we have this nice `guix graph` tool which outputs DAGs of the packages > (or even derivations,bags, ...). This is cool if you look at simple > packages like the "hello" package with little to no dependencies. If > you look at "real" packages like

Re: MATE 1.20

Ricardo Wurmus transcribed 389 bytes: > > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > Would anyone like to take on the task of updating MATE desktop in Guix? > > > > -> https://mate-desktop.org/blog/2018-02-07-mate-1-20-released/ > > > > If no one signals workin

Re: Programs like pcmanfm, evince, ... don't connect to dbus unless run with dbus-launch

Hi Brendan, I can definitely confirm this, as I have been dealing with this on and off for a couple of years now due to the window managers I use. Would you like to file a bug on this or check if there are / have been bugreports about this before? I'm not sure what the best way to proceed could

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

Pjotr Prins transcribed 2.9K bytes: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 05:18:21PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > #+TITLE: Roadmap for Guix 1.0, 2018 > > #+STARTUP: hidestars > > > > * 'guix pull' & co. > > ** TODO 'guix pull' honors ~/.config/guix/channels.scm > > *** (guix channels) module provides eas

Re: Web interface pushed

Wow, good work Tatiana! Alex Sassmannshausen transcribed 384 bytes: > Wow, that looks beautiful! Congratulations to all involved, and > especially Tatiana :D > > Alex > > > Clément Lassieur writes: > > > Hi, > > > > amirou...@hypermove.net writes: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> How can I test? > > > >

Re: Ensuring we don't break user systems

We just have 2 different views here. When Guix started, which was about 3 years before I joined, the model was okay. Between 2015 and now the amount of breakage has been extremely reduced due to discussions about more reasonable development models. For a while now we have an informal rfc for bigge

Re: Ensuring we don't break user systems

Amirouche Boubekki transcribed 7.8K bytes: > Le lun. 30 juil. 2018 à 23:17, Nils Gillmann a écrit : > > > We just have 2 different views here. > > > > When Guix started, which was about 3 years before I joined, the model > > was okay. Between 2015 and now t

Re: IRC freenode issue

Amirouche Boubekki transcribed 2.2K bytes: > Le ven. 3 août 2018 à 00:15, Ricardo Wurmus a écrit : > > > > > Clément Lassieur writes: > > > > > There seems to be an issue with #guix: I can't join anymore. The error > > > is: > > > > > > Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited > > > > I

certbot-service wildcard support

Hi, recently letsencrypt added support for wildcard certificates. Since we concluded that it would be a good idea for Taler to just use that instead of roughly 30 - 40 subdomain certificates: Does our certbot-service support the wildcard functionality?

Re: certbot-service wildcard support

Clément Lassieur transcribed 847 bytes: > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > Hi, > > > > recently letsencrypt added support for wildcard certificates. > > > > Since we concluded that it would be a good idea for Taler to > > just use that instead of roughly 30

Re: certbot-service wildcard support

Clément Lassieur transcribed 1.7K bytes: > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > Clément Lassieur transcribed 847 bytes: > >> Nils Gillmann writes: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > recently letsencrypt added support for wildcard certifica

Re: IRC freenode issue

to share a limnoria bot, right? If not, my idea would be that one of sets up a bot, and it gets to control this for now. The safe, least trust involved, solution would be that you can see this as a proposed tool to use, and set it up yourself. Nils Gillmann transcribed 916 bytes: > Amiro

commit 70f57ae00525f6fc919f62aea647a33b29d28537

Hi, may I ask why you made commit 70f57ae00525f6fc919f62aea647a33b29d28537? In John's case, okay no (C) or © was present. But no one dictates in any guidelines which writing is correct. I chose (C) some time ago because sometimes I use editors without unicode support. Both writings are correct.

Re: commit 70f57ae00525f6fc919f62aea647a33b29d28537

Ricardo Wurmus transcribed 227 bytes: > > Nils Gillmann writes: > > > This commit is okay, but let's all please refrain from doing future > > corrections like this. > > Why? > > I prefer consistency, so I’m happy with Tobias’s change. > > -- >

Re: commit 70f57ae00525f6fc919f62aea647a33b29d28537

Ricardo Wurmus transcribed 1.1K bytes: > > Hi Nils, > > > Ricardo Wurmus transcribed 227 bytes: > >> > >> Nils Gillmann writes: > >> > >> > This commit is okay, but let's all please refrain from doing future > >> > corre

Re: Bootstrap Tarballs for alpha-linux Targets

Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.3K bytes: > Hello Vincent, > > Vincent Weisner skribis: > > > On Aug 10, 2018, at 05:10 AM, Vincent Weisner > > wrote: > > > > I have cross-compiled the GNU Guix bootstrap tarballs for DEC Alpha > > systems running GNU/Linux. I don't own an Alpha system, so I di

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