Re: Thank you for the docs work!

2024-10-28 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi Juliana, Juliana Sims writes: > Hey y'all, > > I've noticed over the last couple years that the documentation for > Guix just keeps getting better and better. Thank you to everyone who > has contributed and is contributing to this effort! The Guix documentation was one of the happy surprise

Declarative and Minimalistic Computing devroom CfP

2024-10-28 Thread Manolis Ragkousis
We are excited to announce the Call for Participation for the Declarative and Minimalistic Computing devroom at FOSDEM on February, 2025! The submission deadline for talk proposals is 1st of December, 2024. FOSDEM is one of the most important free software conferences and is hosted annually at

Re: Go Package with multiple subpackage

2024-10-28 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sun, 27 Oct 2024 18:56:11 +0100 Andreas Enge wrote: > Also, there is some magic in etc/git/gitconfig in the Guix > repository: When you do a "git send-email" to guix-patc...@gnu.org > with a commit touching any of the Go team files above, the team > members will be automatically cc-ed. Yes, thi

Re: Discussion on Guix funding // future

2024-10-28 Thread Christopher Howard
Steve George writes: > If you're interested in this topic there's quite a few different discussions > in the email archive, but it's never really achieved a conclusion. There are > many contributors who enjoy the current process, so I don't think anyone's > proposing removing that. It's about

Re: Guix (and Guile's) promise, and how to (hopefully) get there

2024-10-28 Thread spacecadet
The main turn-off people cite to me is our association with GNU. As a particularly poignant case study, in conversations with someone who has contributed significantly to Guix on my recommendation and did not stay around, the primary complaint was not the email-based workflow (which was noted a

Re: Forge and build automation

2024-10-28 Thread Simon Tournier
Hi, On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 at 16:43, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > (“As an online Guix discussion grows longer, the probability of ending > up talking about the email workflow approaches 1.”) My comment to make it 1. ;-) > As someone who’s often repelled by web interfaces, I have also > experimented

Unofficial channel 'whispers' with services and packages

2024-10-28 Thread Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
Hello Guix users and maintainers! I've decided to make parts of my personal channel 'whispers' public, in case it can be helpful to some users, or if the Guix maintainers wish to pick and choose packages or services from it. The following channel declaration in the list of your '~/.config/channel

Re: Guix (and Guile's) promise, and how to (hopefully) get there

2024-10-28 Thread Suhail Singh
Efraim Flashner writes: > The problem is RMS. The incident Juliana is referring to is when he > appointed himself back onto the board of the FSF a few years ago. Thank you for clarifying. > To phrase it diplomatically, it is not his Free Software positions that > give people pause. I will not

Re: Using Pipewire for PulseAudio and JACK in Guix

2024-10-28 Thread Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
Also, I saw that jack_mixer[0] is missing from the main guix package repository, I’d like to have that added. Since its the most minimal and straightforward JACK mixer I’ve been using over the last 4-5 years. Since its a Python + C application mostly, so one shouldn’t have any major issues packa

Using Pipewire for PulseAudio and JACK in Guix

2024-10-28 Thread Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
Hello, I’m having some issues getting a unified audio setup using PipeWire only, i.e., PipeWire alongwith ALSA to route all audio using PulseAudio and JACK emulation. I had such a setup previously on the Arch GNU/Linux distribution, but I have been struggling since I switched to GNU Guix. I wa

Re: Default postgresql version

2024-10-28 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 12:17:50PM +0100, Nicolas Graves wrote: > On 2024-10-28 12:02, Andreas Enge wrote: > > > Am Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 10:59:29AM +0100 schrieb Nicolas Graves: > >> Sorry I should have thought about it with the patch, let me know if > >> you'd wish I write this patch + news item.

Re: Default postgresql version

2024-10-28 Thread Nicolas Graves
On 2024-10-28 12:02, Andreas Enge wrote: > Am Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 10:59:29AM +0100 schrieb Nicolas Graves: >> Sorry I should have thought about it with the patch, let me know if >> you'd wish I write this patch + news item. > > Well, I wondered whether or not to apply the patch, but since it had

Re: Default postgresql version

2024-10-28 Thread Andreas Enge
Am Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 10:59:29AM +0100 schrieb Nicolas Graves: > Sorry I should have thought about it with the patch, let me know if > you'd wish I write this patch + news item. Well, I wondered whether or not to apply the patch, but since it had a CVE, I thought solving it would be the more urg

Re: Default postgresql version

2024-10-28 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 10:59:29AM +0100, Nicolas Graves wrote: > On 2024-10-28 10:49, Andreas Enge wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I have just pushed this commit > >https://issues.guix.gnu.org/74006 > > that changes the default postgresql version from 10 (which has a CVE) to > > just the postgres

Re: Guix (and Guile's) promise, and how to (hopefully) get there

2024-10-28 Thread Andreas Enge
Am Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 10:22:09PM +0200 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: > > - Can we improve anything relieving weight from the shoulders of some > > people instead of putting even more on them? > Yes! Committers can review code Typo? "Non-committers" can review code! Right now when going through th

Re: Why "update substitutes?"

2024-10-28 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 05:07:21PM +, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: > Hi Attila, > > On 25 October 2024 23:42:32 UTC, Attila Lendvai wrote: > >i still don't really know what's happening there, but maybe something like > >"fetching the registry" or "fetching metadata" would be more descriptive

Re: Guix (and Guile's) promise, and how to (hopefully) get there

2024-10-28 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 06:22:46PM -0400, Suhail Singh wrote: > "Thompson, David" writes: > > > Changing GNU/FSF from the inside has been a losing strategy for at > > least a decade, as a conservative estimate. Nothing has meaningfully > > changed for the better and the situation continues to det

Re: Guix (and Guile's) promise, and how to (hopefully) get there

2024-10-28 Thread Andreas Enge
Am Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 10:22:09PM +0200 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: > ⁰ There’s a ledger at > > > but I don’t remember how to get the balance with the ‘ledger’ command. > :-) Security by obscurity ;-) Clo

Re: Guix (and Guile's) promise, and how to (hopefully) get there

2024-10-28 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
"Thompson, David" writes: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 3:13 PM Ekaitz Zarraga wrote: >> >> Many people on this project have tried to change GNU from the inside and >> are very critical with the FSF (see the https://gnu.tools/). I think >> that's also a good way to do things, changing them from the

Re: Guix (and Guile's) promise, and how to (hopefully) get there

2024-10-28 Thread Ekaitz Zarraga
On 2024-10-28 10:53, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: Ekaitz Zarraga writes: Let's remember the FSF still pays most of our bills. I think clarification is required here: the Guix project receives donations, including a single very large donation. Most of these donations were received because of Guix's

Re: Default postgresql version

2024-10-28 Thread Nicolas Graves
On 2024-10-28 10:49, Andreas Enge wrote: > Hello, > > I have just pushed this commit >https://issues.guix.gnu.org/74006 > that changes the default postgresql version from 10 (which has a CVE) to > just the postgresql variable (now at 15). > > Since as I understood changing postgresql versions

Default postgresql version

2024-10-28 Thread Andreas Enge
Hello, I have just pushed this commit https://issues.guix.gnu.org/74006 that changes the default postgresql version from 10 (which has a CVE) to just the postgresql variable (now at 15). Since as I understood changing postgresql versions requires a (manual?) update of the database format, I am

Re: Guix (and Guile's) promise, and how to (hopefully) get there

2024-10-28 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Ekaitz Zarraga writes: > Let's remember the FSF still pays most of our bills. I think clarification is required here: the Guix project receives donations, including a single very large donation. Most of these donations were received because of Guix's participation in an FSF program (an agreemen

Re: Guix (and Guile's) promise, and how to (hopefully) get there

2024-10-28 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
indieterminacy writes: > At our end I think more pressure and greater expectations should be > made wrt GNU. > Its good that there have been statements made in the past, these types > of things should be expanded upon. When we published https://gnu.tools/ it was our conviction that GNU is what w

Re: Discussion on Guix funding // future

2024-10-28 Thread Andreas Enge
Hello, Am Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 08:58:58AM -0400 schrieb Thompson, David: > Is the Guix Foundation (https://foundation.guix.info/) the official > non-profit for Guix? I would say so, insofar as a volunteer project can have an "official" non-profit (there is no office to decide officiality). The id