Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

[resend] >>This is a great plan IMO (with discussion whenever someone leaves >>mozilla). Thanks Mitchell and bsmedberg for pushing for this! > >Ditto. > >I went into the list to update a few (add roc to Media Playback owner >emeritus), >and discovered a lot of cruft. Serves me right for editing i

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

>This is a great plan IMO (with discussion whenever someone leaves >mozilla). Thanks Mitchell and bsmedberg for pushing for this! Ditto. I went into the list to update a few (add roc to Media Playback owner emeritus), and discovered a lot of cruft. Serves me right for editing it... After talkin

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On 10/20/15 9:04 AM, Myk Melez wrote: [snip] Regarding the proposal itself, initially it seemed strange to collect emeritus owners into their own module, because it would dissociate them from the modules they formerly owned. I would have expected the status to be an attribute on each module, mu

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

Jonas Sicking schrieb: On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: When a Module Owner is also a Mozilla employee who then leaves Mozilla, it seems prudent that their Module Ownership is relinquished. I would be very uneasy with this being the default. Module Ownership is a Mozill

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

This is a great plan IMO (with discussion whenever someone leaves mozilla). Thanks Mitchell and bsmedberg for pushing for this! - jst On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Jet Villegas wrote: > SGTM. > > --Jet > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Mitchell Baker > wrote: > >> On 10/21/15 2:17 PM, Jo

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

SGTM. --Jet On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Mitchell Baker wrote: > On 10/21/15 2:17 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Gervase Markham >> wrote: >> >>> When a Module Owner is also a Mozilla employee who then leaves Mozilla, it seems prudent that their Mo

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On 10/21/15 2:17 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: When a Module Owner is also a Mozilla employee who then leaves Mozilla, it seems prudent that their Module Ownership is relinquished. I would be very uneasy with this being the default. Module Own

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Mitchell Baker wrote: > Hello > > Benjamin Smedberg pinged me to say that he would find it useful if I were to > implement the idea of Emeritus Module Owners. I also suspect this would > help existing module owners feel recognized and thus better about passing o

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: >> When a Module Owner is also a Mozilla employee who then leaves Mozilla, it >> seems prudent that their Module Ownership is relinquished. > > I would be very uneasy with this being the default. Module Ownership is > a Mozilla project positi

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On 20/10/15 19:02, Jet Villegas wrote: > When a Module Owner is also a Mozilla employee who then leaves Mozilla, it > seems prudent that their Module Ownership is relinquished. I would be very uneasy with this being the default. Module Ownership is a Mozilla project position, and does not come wi

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On 10/20/15 11:06 AM, Mike Hoye wrote: On 2015-10-20 2:02 PM, Jet Villegas wrote: When a Module Owner is also a Mozilla employee who then leaves Mozilla, it seems prudent that their Module Ownership is relinquished. There are some Modules for which Ownership has to be a full Time job. I believe

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On 2015-10-20 2:02 PM, Jet Villegas wrote: When a Module Owner is also a Mozilla employee who then leaves Mozilla, it seems prudent that their Module Ownership is relinquished. There are some Modules for which Ownership has to be a full Time job. I believe that this is a conversation for the modu

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

When a Module Owner is also a Mozilla employee who then leaves Mozilla, it seems prudent that their Module Ownership is relinquished. There are some Modules for which Ownership has to be a full Time job. Steven Michaud's recent departure seems like a good example of how to do that right. There hav

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

I like this a lot, but I'd also suggest that we expand this idea beyond merely just leaving employment to also encompass other changes in employment, such as managerial promotions. If one's employment status changes such that that person is no longer able to effectively serve as an owner/peer

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

One other process I'm thinking we should implement is a discussion when a Module Owner leaves employment, esp leaving employment at Mozilla. At this discussion we would discuss things like: -- how they came to be module owner (were they involved as a volunteer? is their involvement all stemm

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On 10/20/15 9:30 AM, Mike Hoye wrote: On 2015-10-20 12:04 PM, Myk Melez wrote: I would have expected the status to be an attribute on each module, much as some current owners/peers are marked "inactive" today. This touches on the only suggestion I had, that former owners and peers be able to

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On 2015-10-20 12:04 PM, Myk Melez wrote: I would have expected the status to be an attribute on each module, much as some current owners/peers are marked "inactive" today. This touches on the only suggestion I had, that former owners and peers be able to mark themselves "active" or "inactive",

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On 10/20/15 9:04 AM, Myk Melez wrote: Regarding the proposal itself, initially it seemed strange to collect emeritus owners into their own module, because it would dissociate them from the modules they formerly owned. I would have ex

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

Gregory Szorc 2015 October 17 at 12:59 I wholeheartedly support the nature of this proposal, which is all about preserving deserved recognition and respecting people. My only suggestion is why stop at module owners. Can we find a way to recognize emeritus peers as well?

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On 17/10/15 21:59, Gregory Szorc wrote: > I wholeheartedly support the nature of this proposal, which is all about > preserving deserved recognition and respecting people. > > My only suggestion is why stop at module owners. Can we find a way to > recognize emeritus peers as well? Good idea. Ch

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On 10/17/15 12:59 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: My only suggestion is why stop at module owners. Can we find a way to recognize emeritus peers as well? +1. The trend with Firefox and Toolkit over the last few years has been to favor a flat structure with many peers, over specialized modules with

Re: proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Mitchell Baker wrote: > Hello > > Benjamin Smedberg pinged me to say that he would find it useful if I were > to implement the idea of Emeritus Module Owners. I also suspect this > would help existing module owners feel recognized and thus better about > passing

proposed module: Emeritus Module Owners

Hello Benjamin Smedberg pinged me to say that he would find it useful if I were to implement the idea of Emeritus Module Owners. I also suspect this would help existing module owners feel recognized and thus better about passing on ownership when they should. Thanks to Benjamin for the pus