Re: Amir Karger and Chris Dolan are locked in a gripping duel

2002-11-18 Thread Chris Dolan
Well, I'd place money on Amir to win if I were you. I've spent an absurd number of evening hours trying to improve that score already, to little avail. I have 33 working solutions that I've saved (only the best of those inflicted on the refs) with a mean score of 77.61 and a std dev of 8.69.

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Ton Hospel
Current top: Rick Klement54.559 Stephen Turner 54.563 So it's starting to look like we might soon have multiple players on the first place. In itself that would be fine, but there is only one prize to give out, so we'll introduce a tie-breaker-tie-breaker: The winner will be the one with the

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Benoît Chauvet
> The winner will be the one with the shortest solution on > "the other algorithm", where we will use this rule to distinguish the > two: if you do only a single sort when processing a line, we call it > algorithm one, if you do multiple sorts, we call it algorithm two. Isn't it a spoiler tha

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <01a801c28_0c$5365d_80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Benoît Chauvet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> The winner will be the one with the shortest solution on >> "the other algorithm", where we will use this rule to distinguish the >> two: if you do only a single sort when processing a

RE: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Terje Kristensen
> -Original Message- > From: Usenet News [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ton Hospel > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening > > > In article <01a801c28_0c$5365d_80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Benoît Chauvet <[EM

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Terje Kristensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I have a solution that dont use sort, but i havent really golfed it too hard > because it will be too long. > Should get below 100 with it tho. > Ok, we'll accept that as alternative method too then.

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Ton Hospel
In article , [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ton Hospel) writes: > Current top: > Rick Klement 54.559 > Stephen Turner54.563 > equality has been reached: 54.559 Rick Klement, Stephen Turner So these two must now either improve this or fight it out on the other algorithm.

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Rick Klement
Ton Hospel wrote: > > Please submit your tie-breaker-tie-breaker attempts on *both* > PGAS (so it's available for posteriority) and the automatic tester > https://golf.frox25.no-ip.org/?func=rules&hole=3 > and ONLY submit your solutions with the alternative method on the > auto-tester. This way th

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Stephen Turner
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Ton Hospel wrote: > Current top: > Rick Klement 54.559 > Stephen Turner54.563 > > So it's starting to look like we might soon have multiple players > on the first place. In itself that would be fine, but there is only > one prize to give out, so we'll introduce a tie

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick Klement <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ton Hospel wrote: >> >> Please submit your tie-breaker-tie-breaker attempts on *both* >> PGAS (so it's available for posteriority) and the automatic tester >> https://golf.frox25.no-ip.org/?func=rules&hole=3 >> and

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Stephen Turner
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Ton Hospel wrote: > > Well, we have to do SOMETHING, there's only one prize as far as I know. > I agree that it's very late in the game for these changes, and I'm > open to alternative suggestions. > It's a difficult question (and actually, I'm surprised we haven't faced it be

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Ton Hospel
In article , Stephen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Ton Hospel wrote: >> >> Well, we have to do SOMETHING, there's only one prize as far as I know. >> I agree that it's very late in the game for these changes, and I

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Stephen Turner
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Ton Hospel wrote: > > My current proposal in case there can't be: a 2 day minigolf at a time > that's ok for both Stephen and Rick (and any other persons that join the top) > Could work, if we can find a good time. It would have to be a weekend for me. Let's worry about tha

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 18 november 2002 sprak Ton Hospel: > Well, we have to do SOMETHING, Why? As far as I'm concerned, it's OK to have two winners. Especially if they are as good as this. (I enjoyed the first three, four hours of the contest, when I was battling Chris Dolan for 1st and 2nd; I'm a bit less enthus

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Stephen Turner
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Eugene van der Pijll wrote: > > > I agree that it's very late in the game for these changes, and I'm > > open to alternative suggestions. > > Time of submission? It has always been my favorite :-) . And I think > there was more than 24 hours between Rick's and Stephen's solut

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Chris Dolan
Eugene van der Pijll wrote: > En op 18 november 2002 sprak Ton Hospel: > >>Well, we have to do SOMETHING, > > > Why? As far as I'm concerned, it's OK to have two winners. Especially if > they are as good as this. (I enjoyed the first three, four hours of the > contest, when I was battling Chris

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Benoît Chauvet
Chris Dolan wrote: > (seriously) I think we can all agree that time should not be a > deciding factor. We do the TPRs as week-long competition so > differences in time zone and work schedules cancel out. On the other hand, I agree with Stephen when he says that the first to break a score has mor

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Andrew Savige
En op 19 november 2002 sprak Eugene van der Pijll: > Why? As far as I'm concerned, it's OK to have two winners. As is well-known, I have modelled my Career Money Leaders Table on real golf, even going to the bother of reverse engineering the prize-money allocation algorithm. In real golf, there i

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Andrew Savige
En op 19 november 2002 sprak Eugene van der Pijll: > Why? As far as I'm concerned, it's OK to have two winners. As is well-known, I have modelled my Career Money Leaders Table on real golf, even going to the bother of reverse engineering the prize-money allocation algorithm. In real golf, there i

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <004801c28_3d$c9a4c130$0201a8c0@murmur>, Benoît Chauvet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Chris Dolan wrote: > >> (seriously) I think we can all agree that time should not be a >> deciding factor. We do the TPRs as week-long competition so >> differences in time zone and work sched

RE: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Mark Anderson
However, in "funny stick hits little ball into little hole way far away" golf only the tied leaders go into the 'sudden death' playoff. If there are multiple players tied for 2nd place or 18th place or whatever, there is a formula for splitting the winnings among them. I would guess that formula

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 19 november 2002 sprak Andrew Savige: > I also enjoy (-ugene's Olympic-style gold medal table. > In the Olympics, I think can you have joint gold medallists, > at least in some events. In some events yes (track and field, gymnastics and swimming for example). In other events there's a play-o

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Jasvir Nagra
As right as you are Ton, perhaps there is reason to reward people for overlooking their Real Life, risking the wrath of their spouse (plural spice?), significant others, bosses and professors, and playing The Game. Plus, it'll encourage people not to risk sitting on good solutions. I tend to fin

Re: The monthly golf *IS* happening

2002-11-18 Thread Yanick
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 09:05:05PM +0100, Benoît Chauvet wrote: > |3enoît (praying the dark gods and making human sacrifices to keep its > actual rank !) Virgin sacrifice only, please. And of the female persuasion, if you can. Joy, `/anirlathotep, PGAS-man of the Refs That Should Not Be