Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-11 Thread John Ralls
Flavio, There’s one more little wrinkle that seems to be evading you. When you create a multi-commodity transaction the transaction has a currency that’s determined by the account of the register you start in (or the first currency-denominated parent if the register is for a non-currency commod

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-11 Thread Maria Inmaculada de la Torre
Hello Flavio, Yes, it is normal behaviour you must have created the original transaction with splits in the VT account I assume. When I create split transactions in an account, for instance bank account and two splits for things I want to keep separate in Repairs and Maintenance, they are going to

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-11 Thread R Losey
My answers will be below your items. I'm glad I've been able to be of some help. On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 5:58 AM Boniforti Flavio wrote: > Hi Richard. > Now I finally got time to read through your reply and understand/learn. > Here is my feedback/reply. Thanks again! > > *USD Dividends* > You're

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-09 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hi Michael. Thanks for confirming that it's a valid transaction with 2 accounts increasing their amount. Not being this my daily business, it happens that I forget some details on how things work. It just takes some time, and then kind people like you help me remember things. I'm not bothered abo

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-09 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/9/2024 6:58 AM, Boniforti Flavio wrote: \ *USD Dividends* You're right, it was not at the right place. I moved it under "Income". When I get paid dividends, how should I register this transaction? Do I increase both the "Income:USD Dividends" and the "Assets:IBKR:USD Cash" accounts? The l

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-09 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hi Richard. Now I finally got time to read through your reply and understand/learn. Here is my feedback/reply. Thanks again! *USD Dividends* You're right, it was not at the right place. I moved it under "Income". When I get paid dividends, how should I register this transaction? Do I increase both

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-08 Thread sunfish62--- via gnucash-user
The point for me is that (for the US at least), separating out the fees and commissions actually masks the true cost of the investment. When I first started tracking investments, I separated the fees and commissions, and it took me forever to figure out why my gains calculations never matched th

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-07 Thread R Losey
I stand corrected (well, really, I'm sitting corrected) On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 3:03 PM sunfis...@yahoo.com wrote: > According to H&R Block, determining your basis involves "generally the > purchase price plus any commissions or fees paid." > > So, unless I'm missing something, no, your brokerag

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-06 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Ah ok - that's fine with me then. F. https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com Am Mi., 6. Nov. 2024 um 22:50 Uhr schrieb sunfis...@yahoo.com < sunfis...@yahoo.com>: > No. $6 (real amount) and 13 GBP (another real amount) are en

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-06 Thread sunfish62--- via gnucash-user
No. $6 (real amount) and 13 GBP (another real amount) are entered. The ratio between these two numbers will remain the same always. But if GnuCash reports the price as 0.4615384615 and your broker says it's .46, are you going to worry that your books don't match your broker? ⁣David T. ​ On N

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-06 Thread sunfish62--- via gnucash-user
According to H&R Block, determining your basis involves "generally the purchase price plus any commissions or fees paid." So, unless I'm missing something, no, your brokerage *won't* report a gain in this example, since gains are calculated against your basis, and not the price. And basis inclu

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-06 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hi David. I'm replying to your feedback as it's less text :-) I'll reply to Richard's afterwards as well - thanks to you both already! And a final note: GnuCash never stores the exchange rate. It calculates it > from the two (actual) amounts include in the transaction. Focusing on the > number the

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-05 Thread R Losey
A very interesting way to look at it; I agree that many exchange services have a "worse" rate because it includes their fee; others show a "good" rate, but tack on fees. And clearly, if there is no fee shown in a receipt, one cannot enter calculate it. Although your statements about the stock are

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-04 Thread sunfish62--- via gnucash-user
Note: I am not an accountant, and am based in the US, whose laws will differ from Switzerland's. I agree that the Dividends account belongs under Income. As an overview, Richard, I'd point out that if you buy something for 1000, and 10 of the cost is for tax (or delivery, or service charges, o

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-04 Thread R Losey
Hello. I don't think that the "USD Dividends" would be under IBKR - that should be somewhere else, probably under "Income" somewhere. When you are paid a dividend, it either goes into the "Cash" fund, or else it is reinvested and more stock is purchased. If the dividends are invested, you'd have

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-03 Thread Patrick James via gnucash-user
Boniforti, I applaud your effort to advance your financial accounting. With that out of the way, there are good reasons how professional accountants can help individuals. There are a myriad of horror stories about how transactions could be structured differently, while accomplishing the same ob

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-03 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hi Jim. I'm a private individual, not a company. Thus, I don't need an accountant and my jurisdiction doesn't matter in what I'm doing: it's my personal finance tool, which I use to track my income/expenses and total wealth. With "would that work?" I was trying to ask if I was missing something an

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-03 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
Boniforti: On 2024-11-03 02:25, Boniforti Flavio wrote: ...As of now, I have just put all the CHF Cash in that account. As I've added CHF in 5-6 different transactions and in between those I have also converted to USD and bought VT stocks, would I need to zero the "CHF Cash" account, then add ea

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-03 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hi Richard. I think I was already going that route --> [image: image.png] As of now, I have just put all the CHF Cash in that account. As I've added CHF in 5-6 different transactions and in between those I have also converted to USD and bought VT stocks, would I need to zero the "CHF Cash" account

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-10-21 Thread R Losey
Part of this is up to you, and GnuCash is flexible because configurations can change. I assume IBKR is your broker, and you have a single, normal brokerage account that deals in mutual funds and stocks. I would create a brokerage account and note that it is with IBKR; I assume cash is help somewh

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-10-20 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Thanks Jim. I'll go through the tutorial and will come back to have my approach validated. BR, F. Jim DeLaHunt schrieb am Mo., 21. Okt. 2024, 03:56: > Boniforti: > > On 2024-10-20 04:08, Boniforti Flavio wrote: > > Hi all. > > > > I'd like to get some suggestions/guidance and eventually validate

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-10-20 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
Boniforti: On 2024-10-20 04:08, Boniforti Flavio wrote: Hi all. I'd like to get some suggestions/guidance and eventually validate if my way of doing this is correct. Congratulations on making more and more use of GnuCash. From your questions and the answers I see on this list, it is clear that

[GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-10-20 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hi all. I'd like to get some suggestions/guidance and eventually validate if my way of doing this is correct. I've put some money into IBKR (CHF) which I then converted into USD to buy VT. For the time being, I've just added the transactions in the "CHF Cash" account on IBKR, where I now see the