Re: [GNC] reindex?

2020-09-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 9/9/20 12:28 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: Fedora 32 gnucash-4.1-1.fc32.x86_64 Without going into the particulars of why, is there a way to re-index the database on one of my accounts?  Or is there some integrity check on the data that I can run? On 2020-09-09 13:03, Adrien Mon

Re: [GNC] reindex?

2020-09-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 9/9/20 12:28 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: Fedora 32 gnucash-4.1-1.fc32.x86_64 Without going into the particulars of why, is there a way to re-index the database on one of my accounts?  Or is there some integrity check on the data that I can run? On 2020-09-09 13:03, Adrien Monte

Re: [GNC] Negative numbers

2020-09-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 9/9/20 1:05 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Not that I'm aware of, but just tab or shift-tab to the other column. A negative credit is a positive debit and vice versa. If you try entering a negative, you'll see GnuCash moves it to the other column as a positive anyway. Regards, Adrien On 9/9/

Re: [GNC] I'm still a bit confused about when things get saved.

2020-09-10 Thread John Angelico
Just buying into the tail end of this discussion. I used to sell and support a commercial package (mid-range, solid, double-entry, Windows platform only, it's now called Sage Pastel) which used the Btrieve file system for its database. In the early versions (90s of last century, before XML), it w

Re: [GNC] I'm still a bit confused about when things get saved.

2020-09-10 Thread John Ralls
Tried that with GnuCash? It isn't a macOS native app and probably doesn't benefit from those features. I'd go for the UPS, but since recent financial activity is generally pretty easy to recover and re-enter maybe the risk/payback works out differently for you. Regards, John Ralls > On Sep 10,

Re: [GNC] I'm still a bit confused about when things get saved.

2020-09-10 Thread w...@theprescotts.com
The modern MacOS is pretty amazing at preserving work in most apps now even if you have not saved to disk. I have shut down my computer with unsaved changes and they are still there when it reboots. And where I live power failures are common and I am not on a UPS (long story there). So even when

Re: [GNC] I'm still a bit confused about when things get saved.

2020-09-10 Thread David Carlson
Desktop computers still benefit from ups power both against outages and (hopefully) surges. Laptops already have a battery. These days many of us also depend on network and/or internet connections for data and backups. Makes life interesting when there are so many potential failure modes to consi

Re: [GNC] Be careful with `petty cash'

2020-09-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Yes, forgot about that, thanks. I've used similar procedures. Regards, Adrien On 9/10/20 4:54 PM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: On 9/10/2020 5:29 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I'm not sure what you are referencing by 'paying-in slip'. POSSIBLY something else. For example, there is an annual

Re: [GNC] Be careful with `petty cash'

2020-09-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Yep, sorry. It started as a post expounding on yours, but then morphed after I reviewed it before posting. Apologies for any confusion. Regards, Adrien On 9/10/20 4:56 PM, Michael Hendry wrote: Hi, Adrien. This appears to be a response to my last comment but I think it was intended for Chr

Re: [GNC] I'm still a bit confused about when things get saved.

2020-09-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Interesting, I haven't experienced this (though I have experienced crashes, outages are handled by my UPS) but I am on an SSD, so maybe you are on to something. Regards, Adrien On 9/10/20 10:18 AM, R. Victor Klassen wrote: At least on the Mac, there’s no guarantee that it is physically writte

Re: [GNC] Be careful with `petty cash'

2020-09-10 Thread Michael Hendry
> On 10 Sep 2020, at 22:29, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > I'm not sure what you are referencing by 'paying-in slip'. > > I always try to model the real world events with my transactions, so receipts > of cash would be recorded for the date they actually happened: > > Dr. Undeposited Funds >

Re: [GNC] Be careful with `petty cash'

2020-09-10 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 9/10/2020 5:29 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I'm not sure what you are referencing by 'paying-in slip'. POSSIBLY something else. For example, there is an annual event at which a "teacup auction" takes place. There is both cash and checks placed in the can when people buy tickets, sometimes

Re: [GNC] Short cuts for things

2020-09-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I don't understand why. I can't think of any other software I use that does this. In any case, I have to commit my change in some form or fashion. The closest I can think of what you are describing might come from software that while still traditionally requiring intentional 'saves', has grown

Re: [GNC] Short cuts for things

2020-09-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Regards, Adrien On 9/10/20 4:21 AM, Chris Green wrote: On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 11:36:16AM -0500, Adrien Monteleone wrote: On 9/9/20 7:07 AM, Chris Green wrote: Is there a quick way to: Get to the 'Accounts' tab, in order to select the next account for entering a transaction.

Re: [GNC] Be careful with `petty cash'

2020-09-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I'm not sure what you are referencing by 'paying-in slip'. I always try to model the real world events with my transactions, so receipts of cash would be recorded for the date they actually happened: Dr. Undeposited Funds Cr. Income:whatever (collection, offertory box, etc.) Then when the dep

Re: [GNC] Can't input alphabet under Windows 10 (Japanese)

2020-09-10 Thread John Ralls
> On Sep 9, 2020, at 6:55 AM, Kazuhiro Nagai wrote: > > Hello. > > I'm using Gnucash with Japanese enviroment under Windows 10. > > From version 4.0, I can't input alphabet due to this bug. > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797860 > This bug is critical for me. > > MinGW-w64's GTK+

Re: [GNC] How to get a sequential list of all transactions?

2020-09-10 Thread Stan Brown
On 2020-09-10 05:09, Chris Green wrote: > Is there a way to get a simple sequential list of all transactions in > all accounts? Tools » General Ledger > I noticed a transaction with an incorrect date (I hadn't "moved it > back" to the right date when entering the year's figures from a manual > s

Re: [GNC] I'm still a bit confused about when things get saved.

2020-09-10 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, On Thu, September 10, 2020 11:18 am, R. Victor Klassen wrote: > At least on the Mac, there’s no guarantee that it is physically written to > disk immediately. I’ve experienced a handful of posted and printed > invoices disappearing due to a power outage. Probably less likely to > happen on a

Re: [GNC] I'm still a bit confused about when things get saved.

2020-09-10 Thread R. Victor Klassen
At least on the Mac, there’s no guarantee that it is physically written to disk immediately. I’ve experienced a handful of posted and printed invoices disappearing due to a power outage. Probably less likely to happen on a system with an SSD drive, as there’s not as much reason to wait to flus

Re: [GNC] I'm still a bit confused about when things get saved.

2020-09-10 Thread Chris Green
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 08:58:04AM -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, September 10, 2020 8:32 am, Chris Green wrote: > > > > When does data entered get saved? Also are there different 'levels' > > of save as it were? > > Yes, there are different levels of data storage, per se. There a

Re: [GNC] Short cuts for things

2020-09-10 Thread David Carlson
Leaving a transaction edit 'pending' by moving to another transaction without 'committing' it by pressing the Enter key allows the user to work on every part of the transaction before 'saving' the final transaction to the data file. Further, the data file in the xml form, like any other text file,

Re: [GNC] I'm still a bit confused about when things get saved.

2020-09-10 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, On Thu, September 10, 2020 8:32 am, Chris Green wrote: > > When does data entered get saved? Also are there different 'levels' > of save as it were? Yes, there are different levels of data storage, per se. There are: * Data Entry -- the data only lives in the UI * Commit -- the data is sto

Re: [GNC] How to get a sequential list of all transactions?

2020-09-10 Thread Chris Green
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 01:09:16PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Is there a way to get a simple sequential list of all transactions in > all accounts? > > I noticed a transaction with an incorrect date (I hadn't "moved it > back" to the right date when entering the year's figures from a manual > sys

Re: [GNC] Be careful with `petty cash'

2020-09-10 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
I think the best approach is either:- 1 - Record the amounts in their different categories as required, e.g. 'collection' or 'offertory box' and simply record the same paying-in slip number against both transactions. 2 - Have, as you suggest, an intermediate "Undeposited Fund

Re: [GNC] Short cuts for things

2020-09-10 Thread Chris Green
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 07:24:27AM -0500, David Carlson wrote: [snip] > > > > In fact it's not very clear (to me, as a very new user) exactly when > > tranasactions get entered and/or when they are permanently stored. > > Even after hitting the + button there seems to be another stage as, on > > ex

[GNC] I'm still a bit confused about when things get saved.

2020-09-10 Thread Chris Green
I noted this earlier but maybe a separate thread would be better. I've read through quite a bit of the Help but it doesn't really seem to address this issue. When does data entered get saved? Also are there different 'levels' of save as it were? It seems to be as follows but I'd like to be sure

Re: [GNC] How to get a sequential list of all transactions?

2020-09-10 Thread David Carlson
Is this what you are looking for? https://gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?rev=4&lang=C&doc=help On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 7:11 AM Chris Green wrote: > Is there a way to get a simple sequential list of all transactions in > all accounts? > > I noticed a transaction with an incorrect date (I hadn't "move

Re: [GNC] Short cuts for things

2020-09-10 Thread David Carlson
Isn't that what the Enter key does? On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 4:23 AM Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 11:36:16AM -0500, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > On 9/9/20 7:07 AM, Chris Green wrote: > > > Is there a quick way to: > > > > > > Get to the 'Accounts' tab, in order to select the

[GNC] How to get a sequential list of all transactions?

2020-09-10 Thread Chris Green
Is there a way to get a simple sequential list of all transactions in all accounts? I noticed a transaction with an incorrect date (I hadn't "moved it back" to the right date when entering the year's figures from a manual system) but didn't correct it immediately. I needed a way to find it again

Re: [GNC] Be careful with `petty cash'

2020-09-10 Thread Michael Hendry
> On 10 Sep 2020, at 09:52, Chris Green wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 05:42:05PM +0100, Michael Hendry wrote: >> >> This probably won’t be an issue for Chris Green, who would be better served >> by an Undeposited Funds asset account. >> > Yes, I think you're right. We don't have any 'pet

Re: [GNC] Short cuts for things

2020-09-10 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 11:36:16AM -0500, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > On 9/9/20 7:07 AM, Chris Green wrote: > > Is there a quick way to: > > > > Get to the 'Accounts' tab, in order to select the next account for > > entering a transaction. > > I could be wrong, but I don't think there is

Re: [GNC] Be careful with `petty cash'

2020-09-10 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 05:42:05PM +0100, Michael Hendry wrote: > > This probably won’t be an issue for Chris Green, who would be better served > by an Undeposited Funds asset account. > Yes, I think you're right. We don't have any 'petty cash' in any of the normal senses. We do have quite a b