Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
Christopher Browne wrote: > Frankly, it's utterly unimportant if there are thousands of people out > there in "Internet-Land" that think Scheme is a ludicrous choice if, in > contrast, the core developers of GnuCash _all_ happen to like Scheme. > If the latter fact is true [and if not directly tru

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Christopher Browne
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:09:10 EST, the world broke into rejoicing as Ariel Rios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > I think this is a little bit disingenuous. Nobody outside the > > gnucash-devel list is requiring gnucash to use Scheme, least of all > > RMS; in point of fact, hardly any GNU projects ac

attaching callbacks (was Re: arguments to -render . . .)

2001-01-15 Thread Robert Graham Merkel
Bill Gribble writes: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 03:53:49PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote: > > Hey grib, I'm almost to the point of doing useful things > > with panes (finally). One of the final things that needs > > to be in place is a renderer along the lines of the > > gnc:html-*foo*-r

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Tyson Dowd
On 15-Jan-2001, Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By the way, I went and bought a Scheme book today at my favorite technical > bookstore (Op-Amp Books in Los Angeles). I asked the clerk where the Scheme > books were and he sniggered... there was an entire wall of C++ books, > and just four b

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
Dan Kegel wrote: > Now I'm reading about car, cdr, caar, cddr, cadr, cdar, and the like. > How nice that all the keywords of the language are so intuitive and high-level, > uninfluenced by the hardware the language originally ran on. Forgot the URL for the origin story of those keywords. It's ht

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
Ariel Rios wrote: > > > I think this is a little bit disingenuous. Nobody outside the > > gnucash-devel list is requiring gnucash to use Scheme, least of all > > RMS; in point of fact, hardly any GNU projects actually use Scheme > > anyway, despite several years of drum-beating to get it to happ

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Ariel Rios
> I think this is a little bit disingenuous. Nobody outside the > gnucash-devel list is requiring gnucash to use Scheme, least of all > RMS; in point of fact, hardly any GNU projects actually use Scheme > anyway, despite several years of drum-beating to get it to happen. False. Many GNOME applica

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
Eugene Tyurin wrote: > > Many years ago (circa 1988) I remember briefly trying out some > package called Texas Instruments' Scheme. Back then I thought it > looked like a dialect of Lisp with some additional system and GUI > toolkits. > > Is that "The Scheme" we're talking about? S

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Eugene Tyurin
Many years ago (circa 1988) I remember briefly trying out some package called Texas Instruments' Scheme. Back then I thought it looked like a dialect of Lisp with some additional system and GUI toolkits. Is that "The Scheme" we're talking about? -- Nothing here - come back later!

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Gribble) writes: > I've written big programs in C, C++, Common LISP, and Scheme, and > small programs in lots and lots of languages. For working on big > programs, right at this time I can't think of any way I'd rather do > it than as a combination of Scheme and C. Schem

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dave Peticolas
"Dirk-Jan C . Binnema" writes: > On Tue Jan 16, 2001 at 05:51:31PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote: > > Ariel Rios writes: > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Dan Kegel wrote: > > > > > > > I'm sure this has been discussed a zillion times but I'd like to bring > it up again: > > > >

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dirk-Jan C . Binnema
On Tue Jan 16, 2001 at 05:51:31PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote: > Ariel Rios writes: > > > > > > On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Dan Kegel wrote: > > > > > I'm sure this has been discussed a zillion times but I'd like to bring it up >again: > > > > > > Requiring that all high-level Gnucash c

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Bill Gribble
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 06:37:59PM +, Al Snell wrote: > > On the other hand, perhaps you folks are using "ability to program > > Scheme" in the same way Linus is using "ability to debug kernel > > problems without a kernel debugger", i.e. as an IQ filter to keep > > dumb people from contributi

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
Al Snell wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Dan Kegel wrote: > > On the other hand, perhaps you folks are using "ability to program Scheme" > > in the same way Linus is using "ability to debug kernel problems without > > a kernel debugger", i.e. as an IQ filter to keep dumb people from contributing

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Al Snell
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Dan Kegel wrote: > On the other hand, perhaps you folks are using "ability to program Scheme" > in the same way Linus is using "ability to debug kernel problems without > a kernel debugger", i.e. as an IQ filter to keep dumb people from contributing > code. I respect that st

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
James LewisMoss wrote: > >> > Requiring that all high-level Gnucash code be in Scheme might be > >> > restricting the number of developers able to contribute to it. > >> Why? > > Dan> Because there are very few people who know how to program in > Dan> Scheme compared to the number of people

Re: scripting language vs. developer community size

2001-01-15 Thread Dan Kegel
Ariel Rios wrote: > > > Because there are very few people who know how to program in Scheme > > compared to the number of people who know how to program in C, C++, Java, or Perl. > Basically your argument is: "Scheme is bad for there are not many > programmers". Nope, not saying Scheme is bad.

latest g-wrap does not work with guile 1.3 on RH 6.2

2001-01-15 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, I'm trying to build the latest GnuCash on Red Hat 6.2 but g-wrap seems to have dropped support for guile 1.3. I don't want to update my guile subsystem because I want to remain as close to "native 6.2" as possible (also because I still want to build the 1.4 RPMs as they are released). So, i

Re: arguments to -render in HTML generator code

2001-01-15 Thread Bill Gribble
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 03:53:49PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote: > Hey grib, I'm almost to the point of doing useful things > with panes (finally). One of the final things that needs > to be in place is a renderer along the lines of the > gnc:html-*foo*-render that are required to display g