Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-10 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 11/03/2006, at 6:48 AM, Danilo Šegan wrote: In some areas, we are way ahead of most proprietary solutions :) Maybe MacOS/X does some things better, but lets not forget that there are things we do better as well (such as this one: fontconfig is clearly a superiour solution). At least for an

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-10 Thread Simos Xenitellis
O/H Gudmund Areskoug έγραψε: Hi, Danilo Šegan wrote: Hi Clytie, Today at 5:29, Clytie Siddall wrote: I have specialist fonts for Vietnamese, and for some other languages, but I only use them when I'm preparing documents for print. Ludida Grande does an excellent job of my language, and

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-10 Thread Gudmund Areskoug
Hi, Danilo Šegan wrote: > Hi Clytie, > Today at 5:29, Clytie Siddall wrote: >> I have specialist fonts for Vietnamese, and for some other languages, >> but I only use them when I'm preparing documents for print. Ludida >> Grande does an excellent job of my language, and of many others. So I >> wan

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-10 Thread Danilo Šegan
Hi Clytie, Today at 5:29, Clytie Siddall wrote: > I have specialist fonts for Vietnamese, and for some other languages, > but I only use them when I'm preparing documents for print. Ludida > Grande does an excellent job of my language, and of many others. So I > wanted the same convenience for us

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-10 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Clytie Siddall wrote: > I don't know how useful it is to compare Linux with Mac OSX (UNIX), Absolutely useless in this case. > but I use Lucida Grande all the time _because_ it covers such a wide > range of characters. Not having to change font when I change > languages is a

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-09 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 09/03/2006, at 11:51 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Making fonts that have glyphs for multiple scripts is in fact not recommended in Linux. Having separate fonts for different scripts have various benefits. Simply, don't do that. I don't know how useful it is to compare Linux with Mac OSX (U

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-09 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > There is a similar discussion going on at the dejavu-devel mailing list. > There is interest from contributors to add glyphs for more languages, > like Arabic and CJK, as it has been with FreeFont which supports with > different levels of quality Latin

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-09 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 08:21 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Clytie Siddall wrote: > > > so he might well be willing to incorporate the glyphs for your > > language. :) > > Making fonts that have glyphs for multiple scripts is in fact not > recommended in Linux. Having separat

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-09 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Clytie Siddall wrote: > so he might well be willing to incorporate the glyphs for your > language. :) Making fonts that have glyphs for multiple scripts is in fact not recommended in Linux. Having separate fonts for different scripts have various benefits. Simply, don't do t

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-09 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 08/03/2006, at 9:15 PM, Erdal Ronahi wrote:Hi Clytie, Erdal, does Deja Vu [1] include your glyphs yet? You could try it, and Verajja [2], which will soon be part of it. The Verajja author is certainly keen to work on incorporating needed glyphs, and to work responsively with language users. Neit

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-08 Thread Erdal Ronahi
Hi all, the author of "Unikurd Web" has agreed to publish the font under the GPL. Including it would solve a lot of font-related issues, because it is widely used on internet pages in Kurdish with Arabic script. It is fully unicode-compatible. Does anyone know whom to contact t

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-08 Thread Erdal Ronahi
Hi Clytie, Erdal, does Deja Vu [1] include your glyphs yet? You could try it, and Verajja [2], which will soon be part of it. The Verajja author is certainly keen to work on incorporating needed glyphs, and to work responsively with language users. Neither DejaVu nor Verajja contain any Arabic scri

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-08 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 07/03/2006, at 7:50 PM, Erdal Ronahi wrote:are there any free fonts out there that are known to support the variants of Arabic script well? We have particular problems with Kurdish which has some diacritics not used in other languages. There are a lot of fonts for standard arabic script, but les

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-07 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
روز سه‌شنبه، 2006-03-07 ساعت 15:51 +0100، Erdal Ronahi نوشت: > Maybe you (Roozbeh, Behdad) can help me select a beautiful one? I am > hardly able to read Arabic script, let alone say something about > esthetics. I'm sorry, but Kurdish font aesthetics is not necessarily the same as Persian font ae

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-07 Thread Erdal Ronahi
Hi, Apart from SIL fonts (which are gratis but not free), I don't know any gratis fonts that support the additional Kurdish letters. If you have the time, you can try getting one of the free Arabic fonts and addKurdish support to it. The FarsiWeb Persian fonts are already shippedwith Debian, and

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-07 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
روز سه‌شنبه، 2006-03-07 ساعت 10:20 +0100، Erdal Ronahi نوشت: > are there any free fonts out there that are known to support the > variants of Arabic script well? We have particular problems with > Kurdish which has some diacritics not used in other languages. There > are a lot of fonts for standard

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-07 Thread Erdal Ronahi
Hi, Take a look at the Scheherazade and Lateef smart fonts By Jonathan Kewand Bob Hallissy from SIL: http://scripts.sil.org/ArabicFontsThey're not free as in freedom yet, but will probably be released underthe OFL (http://scripts.sil.org/OFL ) in the future. Yes, I know them. They have all the ch

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-07 Thread Nicolas Spalinger
> Hi, > > are there any free fonts out there that are known to support the > variants of Arabic script well? We have particular problems with Kurdish > which has some diacritics not used in other languages. There are a lot > of fonts for standard arabic script, but less for variants. I could not >

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-07 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Erdal Ronahi wrote: > Hi, > > are there any free fonts out there that are known to support the variants of > Arabic script well? We have particular problems with Kurdish which has some > diacritics not used in other languages. There are a lot of fonts for > standard arabic scri

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-03-07 Thread Erdal Ronahi
Hi, are there any free fonts out there that are known to support the variants of Arabic script well? We have particular problems with Kurdish which has some diacritics not used in other languages. There are a lot of fonts for standard arabic script, but less for variants. I could not find any suit

Fonts for distribution: testing

2006-03-06 Thread Clytie Siddall
Hello all :) I have recently tested the font Verajja, which will be integrated into the font Deja Vu. It covers the Vietnamese glyphs, but I have made some recommendations to the developer on the spacing of combined diacritics which will make it more readable in my language. (The combined

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-02-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Simos Xenitellis gmx.net> writes: > Fedora has Dejavu 2.3 (latest) in their repository. And if I may chirp in the DejaVu in Fedora Extras is rebuilt from sfd sources - it's not the upstream binary dump. While I appreciate all the new font projects none of them so far (with the exception of juni

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-02-25 Thread Simos Xenitellis
O/H Clytie Siddall έγραψε: On 25/02/2006, at 8:06 AM, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: روز چهارشنبه، 2006-02-22 ساعت 18:21 +0330، Roozbeh Pournader نوشت: Gentium, Doulos, and Charis are already available in Fedora, in packages named "gentium-fonts", "doulos-fonts", and "charis-fonts". All three are

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-02-24 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 25/02/2006, at 8:06 AM, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: روز چهارشنبه، 2006-02-22 ساعت 18:21 +0330، Roozbeh Pournader نوشت: Gentium, Doulos, and Charis are already available in Fedora, in packages named "gentium-fonts", "doulos-fonts", and "charis-fonts". All three are currently available fo

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-02-24 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
روز چهارشنبه، 2006-02-22 ساعت 18:21 +0330، Roozbeh Pournader نوشت: > Gentium, Doulos, and Charis are already available in Fedora, in packages > named "gentium-fonts", "doulos-fonts", and "charis-fonts". All three are > currently available for Fedora Core 5 test versions, while at the > present mom

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-02-23 Thread Clytie Siddall
Hi Simos, thanks for your reply, as always. :) On 24/02/2006, at 12:20 AM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: MJ Ray said: Last I heard, the Open Font Licence got its name change clause (clause 3) wrong and prevents people making API-compatible new fonts based on OFL'd ones (that is, derived works cannot

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-02-23 Thread Simos Xenitellis
O/H Clytie Siddall έγραψε: On 23/02/2006, at 1:21 AM, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: روز چهارشنبه، 2006-02-22 ساعت 16:54 +1030، Clytie Siddall نوشت: What do you guys think? If we could release Gentium and maybe Doulos with distros, our users have effective, true Unicode fonts which will display all

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-02-23 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
روز پنجشنبه، 2006-02-23 ساعت 14:50 +1030، Clytie Siddall نوشت: > This is interesting to hear, Roozbeh, thankyou, because on the debian- > i18n list, where I also brought up this topic, I was told somewhat > forcibly that the OFL doesn't allow distribution. Well, "free-enough" is different for D

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-02-22 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 23/02/2006, at 1:21 AM, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: روز چهارشنبه، 2006-02-22 ساعت 16:54 +1030، Clytie Siddall نوشت: What do you guys think? If we could release Gentium and maybe Doulos with distros, our users have effective, true Unicode fonts which will display all localizations. Gentium,

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-02-22 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
روز چهارشنبه، 2006-02-22 ساعت 16:54 +1030، Clytie Siddall نوشت: > What do you guys think? If we could release Gentium and maybe Doulos > with distros, our users have effective, true Unicode fonts which will > display all localizations. Gentium, Doulos, and Charis are already available in Fedor

Re: Fonts for distribution

2006-02-22 Thread Danilo Šegan
Hi Clytie, Today at 7:24, Clytie Siddall wrote: > Gentium with the Open Font Licence is very good news indeed. It is a > true Unicode font. I also think Doulos (the second link) is well > worth testing. Gentium is still incomplete in Cyrillic part: it's been "Work In Progress" for more than two

Fonts for distribution

2006-02-21 Thread Clytie Siddall
Hi guys :) Simos suggested I write to Jim Gettys, who very kindly wrote back with helpful info: On 22/02/2006, at 8:06 AM, Jim Gettys wrote: Vera will be having some wider coverage, but still be far from a unicode font. You might look at the fonts that SIL just released, but I suspect