Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-17 Thread Junio C Hamano
Christian Couder writes: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Stefan Beller wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:20 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> "Git Annotate"? >> >> "Git Praise" as opposed to blame? >> "Git Who" as a pun on the subcommand structure which doesn't always >> follows grammar? >

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-17 Thread Christian Couder
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Christian Couder writes: > >> I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: > > I read it. Sounds promising. Thanks! [...] > I obviously do not know how the actual contents would look like at > this point, but depending

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-17 Thread Christian Couder
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Stefan Beller wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:20 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> "Git Annotate"? > > "Git Praise" as opposed to blame? > "Git Who" as a pun on the subcommand structure which doesn't always > follows grammar? Yeah these suggestions above are nice

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-17 Thread Christian Couder
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Christian Couder > wrote: >> >> I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: >> >> https://github.com/git/git.github.io/pull/15 >> > > I would love to have/use something like this

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-17 Thread Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Christian Couder wrote: > > I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: > > https://github.com/git/git.github.io/pull/15 > I would love to have/use something like this in the GitMinutes podcast. Perhaps in addition to the very random interview fo

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-16 Thread David Lang
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Junio C Hamano wrote: David Lang writes: On Sun, 15 Mar 2015, Junio C Hamano wrote: Christian Couder writes: I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: I read it. Sounds promising. Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. How would

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-16 Thread Junio C Hamano
David Lang writes: > On Sun, 15 Mar 2015, Junio C Hamano wrote: > >> Christian Couder writes: >> >>> I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: >> >> I read it. Sounds promising. >> >> Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. >> >> How would "Git Review" (or "Git M

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-16 Thread David Lang
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015, Junio C Hamano wrote: Christian Couder writes: I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: I read it. Sounds promising. Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. How would "Git Review" (or "Git Monthly Review", or replace your favourite "h

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-16 Thread Stefan Beller
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:20 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > > "Git Annotate"? > "Git Praise" as opposed to blame? "Git Who" as a pun on the subcommand structure which doesn't always follows grammar? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majord..

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-16 Thread David Kastrup
Christian Couder writes: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Randall S. Becker > wrote: >>> On March 15, 2015 6:19 PM Christian Couder wrote: >> >>> Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. >>> >>> How would "Git Review" (or "Git Monthly Review", or replace your favourite >>> "how-of

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-16 Thread Christian Couder
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Randall S. Becker wrote: >> On March 15, 2015 6:19 PM Christian Couder wrote: > >> Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. >> >> How would "Git Review" (or "Git Monthly Review", or replace your favourite >> "how-often-per-period-ly" in its name) sound

RE: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-15 Thread Randall S. Becker
> On March 15, 2015 6:19 PM Christian Couder wrote: > Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. > > How would "Git Review" (or "Git Monthly Review", or replace your favourite > "how-often-per-period-ly" in its name) sound? I meant it to sound similar to > academic journals that summari

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-15 Thread Junio C Hamano
Christian Couder writes: > I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: I read it. Sounds promising. Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. How would "Git Review" (or "Git Monthly Review", or replace your favourite "how-often-per-period-ly" in its name) sound? I

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-15 Thread Christian Couder
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Jeff King writes: > >> Seeing my name in "shortlog" was nice, but not that exciting. I >> submitted a patch, it was taken, and of course it ends up in any >> automated lists of authors. What was much more rewarding was being >> mentioned s

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-15 Thread Christian Couder
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Christian Couder writes: > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: >>> >>> I would suspect that those who agree with you would appreciate if >>> you or somebody volunteered to act as our CKDO (chief kudos >>> distribution

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Junio C Hamano
Jeff King writes: > Seeing my name in "shortlog" was nice, but not that exciting. I > submitted a patch, it was taken, and of course it ends up in any > automated lists of authors. What was much more rewarding was being > mentioned specifically in "A note from the maintainer" as a helpful > perso

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Jeff King
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 03:36:46PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > I hadn't thought about it when I originally suggested this, but of > > course "new" is not strictly meaningful in a world with branches. If you > > contribute a bugfix on top of v2.0.0 that goes to "maint", do you get to > > be ne

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Jeff King
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:05:43PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Jeff King writes: > > > I spent many years as a "type C" contributor, and I remember how nice it > > was to see my name mentioned occasionally as a useful person. > > I guess that everybody is different ;-) > > After throwing a

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Junio C Hamano
Jeff King writes: > It is comprised of 41 non-merge commits... > > is fine. Thanks; very much appreciated. >> New contributors who made this release possible are as follows. >> Welcome to the Git development community! >> >> Aleksander Boruch-Gruszecki, Aleksey Vasenev, Patrick Steinhardt,

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Jeff King
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 02:28:03PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Jeff King writes: > > > Or something along those lines. The wording and indentation of the > > message could probably use tweaking. And there is a bash-ism in the > > script. :) > > OK, I've updated the Announce script on the 'to

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Junio C Hamano
Fredrik Gustafsson writes: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 09:53:22PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: >> I'd first suggest to employ "icase" to unify *-By and *-by. Perhaps >> we would want a recommended list somewhere in SubmittingPatches to >> discourage people from getting too creative? > > There's al

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 09:53:22PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > I'd first suggest to employ "icase" to unify *-By and *-by. Perhaps > we would want a recommended list somewhere in SubmittingPatches to > discourage people from getting too creative? There's already such list in SubmittingPatches,

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
Jeff King writes: > I spent many years as a "type C" contributor, and I remember how nice it > was to see my name mentioned occasionally as a useful person. I guess that everybody is different ;-) After throwing a small patch at ROCKbox (git.rockbox.org) back when they were still hosted on Subv

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
Duy Nguyen writes: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote: >> Duy Nguyen writes: >> >>> ... We may want to acknowledge review efforts as well, by >>> grepping Helped-by:, Reviewed-by:... >> >> Agreed. Something along the lines of >> >> $ git shortlog --no-merges -s -n -t H

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Duy Nguyen
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Duy Nguyen writes: > >> ... We may want to acknowledge review efforts as well, by >> grepping Helped-by:, Reviewed-by:... > > Agreed. Something along the lines of > > $ git shortlog --no-merges -s -n -t Helped-by -t Reviewed-by v2.3.0.

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Andrew Ardill
On 12 March 2015 at 08:28, Junio C Hamano wrote: > OK, I've updated the Announce script on the 'todo' branch. The > announcement for 2.3.2 I sent out earlier as $gmane/264975 would > have looked like this. I think the changes are excellent, and think they add a lot of value regardless of any oth

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
Jeff King writes: > Or something along those lines. The wording and indentation of the > message could probably use tweaking. And there is a bash-ism in the > script. :) OK, I've updated the Announce script on the 'todo' branch. The announcement for 2.3.2 I sent out earlier as $gmane/264975 wou

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
Christian Couder writes: > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: >> >> I would suspect that those who agree with you would appreciate if >> you or somebody volunteered to act as our CKDO (chief kudos >> distribution officer). I do not think I have enough time to do that >> well

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Christian Couder
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Christian Couder writes: > >> I don't want to write again about each of these points now. I am more >> interested in discussing a good strategy to try to revert the sad >> trend of Git developers being promoted less and less, because I thin

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Jeff King
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:38:21AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > >> I can add "shortlog --no-merges -s -n v2.3.0..v2.4.0" at the end of > >> the e-mail when the release notes is sent out. That might be a good > >> enough balance between the usefulness of the release notes to its > >> customers an

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Jeff King wrote: > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 07:36:34PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > >> > Or if that would make the release notes too cumbersome to review, what >> > about using systemd's method? systemd's release notes include a >> > "contributions from" section

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Jeff King
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 07:36:34PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > Or if that would make the release notes too cumbersome to review, what > > about using systemd's method? systemd's release notes include a > > "contributions from" section at the very end that lists everyone with > > a patch inclu

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-10 Thread Junio C Hamano
Duy Nguyen writes: > ... We may want to acknowledge review efforts as well, by > grepping Helped-by:, Reviewed-by:... Agreed. Something along the lines of $ git shortlog --no-merges -s -n -t Helped-by -t Reviewed-by v2.3.0.. 6 4 0 Michael Haggerty 3 0 1 Jeff King

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-10 Thread Junio C Hamano
"Jason St. John" writes: > In the Git release notes for something like "git foo > learned a new option --bar", a simple "(Thanks|Kudos) to John Smith" > at the end of each bullet point may be a good way to recognize > developers in a concise manner without needing to dig through the > output of "

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-10 Thread Duy Nguyen
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Jason St. John wrote: > Or if that would make the release notes too cumbersome to review, what > about using systemd's method? systemd's release notes include a > "contributions from" section at the very end that lists everyone with > a patch included in the releas

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-10 Thread Jason St. John
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Christian Couder writes: > >> I don't want to write again about each of these points now. I am more >> interested in discussing a good strategy to try to revert the sad >> trend of Git developers being promoted less and less, because I thin

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-10 Thread Junio C Hamano
Christian Couder writes: > I don't want to write again about each of these points now. I am more > interested in discussing a good strategy to try to revert the sad > trend of Git developers being promoted less and less, because I think > that it is really very important. I would suspect that th

Re: Promoting Git developers (was: Bashing freelancers)

2015-03-10 Thread Christian Couder
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Michael J Gruber wrote: > Christian Couder venit, vidit, dixit 07.03.2015 08:18: >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >>> At some point of time I think it may be worth reevaluating the toxic >>> atmosphere against freelancers doing G

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-10 Thread Junio C Hamano
Michael J Gruber writes: > I guess we have at least 3 kinds of people here: > > A) Paid to do Git development, at least as part of their job. > B) Freelancers who don't get paid directly for "doing git" but hope to > profit from their git efforts directly or indirectly. > C) Doing it in their fre

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-09 Thread Philip Oakley
From: "David Kastrup" Michael J Gruber writes: Christian Couder venit, vidit, dixit 07.03.2015 08:18: Hi, On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, David Kastrup wrote: At some point of time I think it may be worth reevaluating the toxic atmosphere against freelancers doing Git development. My

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-09 Thread David Kastrup
Michael J Gruber writes: > Christian Couder venit, vidit, dixit 07.03.2015 08:18: >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >>> At some point of time I think it may be worth reevaluating the toxic >>> atmosphere against freelancers doing Git development. >> >> My op

Re: Promoting Git developers (was: Bashing freelancers)

2015-03-09 Thread Michael J Gruber
Christian Couder venit, vidit, dixit 07.03.2015 08:18: > Hi, > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > >> At some point of time I think it may be worth reevaluating the toxic >> atmosphere against freelancers doing Git development. > > My opinion on this is that the Git communi