han that of the local
> one?
>
>
Perhaps you could post your config- /etc/distcc/hosts, have you got the
server running on the other box(s) what abut their configs
-/etc/conf.d/distcc
Al
Patrick wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I have upgraded my ndiswrapper software on my server and now it can't
> connect. According to dmesg and /proc the driver is loaded successfully
> but it won't connect to my access point. The logs of the access point
> don't show any attempt of the machine. Other logs o
c web cams and can take snapshots and video
Also,
motion
motiontrack
are motion detection and recording apps
Al
; name of your machine>
but this gave the same unreadable screen.
The same results repeated with a new machine also.
Installing the guest additions has no effect.
Have not got around to investigating any further yet.
Al
this option, and uncheck the Wi-Fi hotspot.
Now, on the computer, just run "ifconfig usb0 up", then "dhcpcd usb0",
and you should be in business.
usb0 will never come up for me until I do the above with the phone
connected.
Hope this helps,
Al
repeated checks.
Al
>>
>> I wounder if efforts have been made to reduce this repeated checks.
>>
>> Al
>
> cmake.
Didn't know that, Time to study the build tools, even if I am not a C-coder.
>
> It really does decrease the amount of time in the configure step - witness
>
additional parameter do I give to emerge?
(emerge --oneshot --nodeps binutils)
Al
I don't have a Solaris I can't use the Solaris workaround. :-(
Can't deactivate a flag, that is not set.
Al
Hello,
I try to setup Gentoo Prefix on Cygwin. Cygwin is a POSIX layer on
windows. That means that the environment is POSIX but the binaries are
COFF instead of ELF AFAIK.
Now I wonder which CHOST to set in this case. What does it describe,
the environment or the file format?
Al
Hello!
I created my first overlay and want to patch the sys-devel/binutils
package. In this package I not only find one ebuild, but a list of
different versions.
Do this versions depend on each other so that I all have to copy them
into my overlay?
Or can I simply start with the latest one?
Al
2010/8/26 Al :
> Hello!
>
> I created my first overlay and want to patch the sys-devel/binutils
> package. In this package I not only find one ebuild, but a list of
> different versions.
>
> Do this versions depend on each other so that I all have to copy them
> into my ov
started with this new stuff.
>From other communities I am educated to prefer lists over IRC even if
IRC usually faster. Lists result in a searchable knowlage base. You
can't say the same from the noise of on IRC channels.
However, if you consider IRC the preferred style of gentoo I can switch.
Al
ather common and stupid, but has few
specific search words, it is difficult to find a previous answer, even
if answered a thousand times before. That is thing Florian want's to
point out. Such a question better goes to IRC.
Al
2010/8/23 Paul Hartman :
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Al wrote:
>> Some thoughts of the day
>>
>> With multicore machines compilation itself is relativly fast. The
>> bigger part of time meanwhile is spend for the system check before
>> compilation. Each pr
he
gcc, which has such a complex tree.
Al
Can't reach overlays.gentoo.org alias pelican.gentoo.org. Is the server down?
Alternatives?
Al
t one, who really does it. There are still some quests to be
resolved by you.
Your mission: Sucessfully run "emerge -e system" on Cygwin!
Intersted to take part in the conetst? Then send an answer to this
posting. Hope to find some people to join in and have fun.
Al
Can anybody explain the Gentoo handling of filefuncs in the gawk package?
Why isn't a simple patch used like in all other cases?
Al
so.0.0.1] Error 1
You say it is mandatory on a Gentoo system, because there are awk
scripts that rely on. Do this functions break because of the missing
kernel? What would be the workaround?
Thanks
Al
> I have a second issue. When compiling gawk on Cygwin, where is no
> windows kernel, the Gentoo version of filefuncs breaks. I have to
Sure there is a windows kernel. The linux kernel is missing.
Al
the missing kernel. I have to rewrite Gentoos
filefuncs.c to work without a linux kernel.
3.) I can go with the original extension. Portage does not really
depend on Gentoos additions.
4.) I have to adapt all awk scripts that make use of it.
Al
g with VM, LVM and lilo is already one level of
complexity to much if you ask.
Al
gt;
The typical recommondation I read is Thinkpad.
Do a general search for linux laptops. I.e. I find:
http://linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lctp.html
Maybe look at ebay.
Al
; verified.
And I like to have two documents open side by side. It has been
verified, that writing code und tests side by side reduces bugs much
more than debugging after writing the code.
Al
this rather differ on per package basis?
I hint to the right docs would help.
Thank you in advance
Al
only know the web as
webpages?
When comparing Gentoo with other communities it has very good
documentation but communication could be better. I am missing the
heart of it.
Al
g, which way would Gentoo choose or if that is not
package specific at all. Are you sure dlopen() is used as a general
approach on Gentoo?
Also I installed a few libries with Prefix Gentoo on Cygwin. On Cygwin
there is no /etc/ld.so.conf. Yet the libraries are found somehow. I
still have to find out how it works in that environment.
Al
e searched" as last step.
Al
a good community.
Mail and forums should be additional doors for those which are brought
up in the world of windows and google. Best they are fully
synchronized and it is the same database.
Al
tion how I read it, but a question how a majority of
users can read and write to it. That influences the culture and
athmosphere of communication. Also I think Volkers remark was very
ironical else he should best go back to his dishes.
Al
help. I even
have to tweak an eclasses where it relies on scanelf.
Al
e choice
of the tool to handle dynamic linking is on the side of the programs
and can't be triggert uniformly from the ebuilds.
Hmm, ist the dlopen() call the same on all plattforms? I assume, else
you would need to adapt the sources.
How can I find that out? Sure grepping the sources.
Al
n his own server
for his own groups. It's the same like running a mailinglist or
running an apache.
Al
a
> newsgroup is really that different that using e-mail? You double-click
I consider you advance if you use thunderbird and you know to use the
options of IMAP.
Al
nd is always worth a
posting. I also think it a good habit to summarize the result of a
thread in a way, that makes it usefull for the archives.
In a mailing list you experience such a postings as unnecessary load.
Al
sources and
it's scope is wider than linux.
Al
It would be as simple as this:
1.) enter "news.gentoo.org" as news server to thunderbird
2.) select the groups you want to read
2 steps not more. That is far more simple than subscribing to a mailing list.
Al
> I don't know who this fellow Al is, but he seems to have a stuck idea from 10+
> years ago. Gentoo doesn't have a newsgroup probably because Gentoo users do
> not want one.
My father hasn't internet at all and he doesn't miss it. There are
even people that can'
m having a dedicated news server
for a technological project like news.gentoo.org. However that would
make only sense, if it is fully synchronized with the existing lists.
Else it would lead to an unnecessary split of the userbase.
Al
erent news-
> servers easily without a news-proxy like leafnode sitting in between.
Thunderbird. There is no limit to severs you can subscribe to.
Al
ll those different channels would mirror the same
database. But that would require some technological progress to
synchronize without breaking the threads.
Al
> Al,
>
> Do everyone a favor. Go use Gmane and tell us what exactly
> you'd be able to do that Gmane does not already do.
> It's archived, search-able (via keywords) and many, many
> other very cool features.
I do you favour and confirm that it is a very cool web in
the limitations of the mailing
list approach.
Al
g a webbrowser to search an archive. When subscribing to a
mailinglist, I don't even know the topics of yesterday.
Al
2010/9/7 Volker Armin Hemmann :
> On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote:
>> > because he hopes that you finally shut up?
>>
>> Why do you read this thread and answer to it? Ignore it.
>
> I would, if you wouldn't put out a large percentage of emails arriving at
nt enough to reflect about.
Finally I really stay in one single thread tody, that I started and
that has a lot of response. Everybody has the freedom to ignore this
single thread and should not be bothered about. If that is not
possible -> see my theses.
Al
can't say FreeBSD was the only port of Portage. But
there is none that went to a major public.
Al
2010/9/7 Ajai Khattri :
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Al wrote:
>
>>> When you say Gentoo, do you mean Portage? Remember Windows has a lot of
>>> limitations that WILL get in your way so dont be surprised when things
>>> break.
>>
>> I am specially interes
the rest that complaints of noise. With having mailing list as
default way of communication this rest is bigger than necessary. End.
Al
U can go file the bug report and ask for it.
It's not done by filing a bug. It's not a bug anyway.
Al
> person who desires such a feature, and that means, in a nutshell, DIY
OK, I put it onto my DIY list. :-)
Al
or need highly customized OSes.
>
I wouldn't port it to BSD either. If I want to reach many people I
still have to start with windows.
> In fact, portage is complete overkill and I refuse to allow it to be deployed
> at work. Check my posting history for the rationale behind this.
What is gentoo if you substract portage? I am courious now.
Al
>
> emails too. But you still get the 'new mails' indicator.
>
Good, that you finally start to understand that mails have their
disadvantages in producing noise.
If you would go a step further you will be able to recognize, how this
puts a cap on the potential userbase of Gentoo.
Al
rcle considiring the
list as their playground.
I don't wounder if people prefere to use a forum.
Al
re is emerge
* really on top? What is the next level?
How many languages are involved only to generate and install a C
program! Maschine code, C, bash, m4, python, ... what else? How much
knowlege is needed to debug this huge stack!
I daily wonder all this still works so well.
Al
ating system documentation about shared libraries for
more information, such as the ld(1) and ld.so(8) manual pages.
Al
tested eccessively) ;-)
For my case that would be of help. I currently have to mix patches
from cygwin with patches from Gentoo. Sure that leads to conflicts.
However it is always problematic to depend on another team and have to
wait for bugfixes. You must be able to bugfix yourself. Is that
addressed by the oss-qm? Than it seems a layer between the original
sources and the own project. It adds new complexity. Is that price
worth the gain?
Al
es shared library mean it is shared in memory (PIC)?
Al
t configs and uses for those servers.
>
How about migrating them one-by-one to CentOs first and in a second
step to Gentoo?
Sure every servers migration is work. But there will be routine once
you have migrated 10.
Having a uniform serverfarm should pay the efforts after a reasonable time.
Al
go the way
from the very beginning.
I am not the first one, who tried and sure I am not the last. I also
profit from the documentations of my forerunners.
Al
ving 30 different systems, many
> of them legacy systems. Management once asked what it will take to unlegacy
> all of that. They didn't like my answer:
>
> Triple the salary budget
> Two years.
That's cheap. Isn't a factor of ten always more to the truth?
Al
nities behind the Cygwin and the Gentoo candidate.
What is your strategia to build up a community?
Al
t disk.
Now I can freely experiment on all other partitions and disks. I never
install a bootloader on those other partitions.
Sure that doesn't work for a rescue system when the harddisk is
broken. In that case I would use any live CD.
Al
ut as prerequest for Briegel and nourished by it.
Maybe it would be possibel to run Briegel as type 2. But a community
has special prerequests to get it started, communiction, server
management, events and meetings. A lot of non-programming work also
for this.
Al
both types).
The term "static library" would refer to unshared libraries, because
are typically linked statically (but must not).
Please correct me if I am wrong. I am new in the field.
Al
st is already
covered by MMU.
So why shouldn't you be able to load an unshared lib (without PIC)
dynamically? Sure there still would be some additional steps.
Al
>> This was actually a potential risk once upon a time:
>
> Sorry to drift from the topic, but would somebody please explain to me
> what a potential risk is? How does it differ from a risk?
A risk is always potential. A potential risk is when you are not sure
if it is a risk at all.
Al
>
> What I am saying is that there is no way to dynamically load code from a
> .a file, at least not with the system tools, period.
>
O.K. so we have to stress the term archive in your statement.
Al
k they are
related. If your patch import system works, it can become very
interesting. You can run something similar to Gentoo without the need
of a big community at the beginning. So you have all freedom to
customize it just the way you want it.
Al
e doing
that I did rework the german Wiki page not long ago.
http://de.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Installation_von_Gentoo_Linux
It was helpfull for me. Now it should be even more up-to-date.
Al
only from one partition. If
Debian already has it (and is your main system) I would adapt it
there.
If you install it into experimental Gentoo and break it, you will not
even be able to boot Debian.
Al
nfigurations
from which the actual configuration is finally generated. Read some
tutorial here.
Gentoo wasn't detected automatically from Ubuntu. I needed to
configure it manually following the Gentoo handbook.
Al
7;m guessing it has something to do with
> udevd, or uevents? Because shortly before that, I tell it to find the
> root partition at /dev/sda1, and it starts to boot, but then it loses it.
>
What is that in concrete, it starts? What do you see, hear, smell?
Al
BEL, then it tells me it
I am still asking myself, if it is the USB stick at all that you see
starting. Couldn't it be a kernel from the inbuild hard disk? ... wich
you would *hear* in that case ... maybe even smell or feel ...
Hence I ask you if there linux kernel on the first or second partition
of your disk.
Al
USB stick and on
the other machine, so that you can exclude hardware issues?
Al
> free -m
> total used free shared buffers cached
> Mem: 3754 3588 165 0 57 258
3588 of 3754 is free, AFAIK not used at all. Plug off 3500 and sell it.
If your system is slow maybe from managing all that unusued memory. ;-)
Al
>
> Actually, the 3588 is what is used. The 165 is what is free. Maybe the
> email program you are using is not lining the columns up properly.
>
Maybe you are right. Headers out of alignment.
Al
fortunately, both use genkernel instead of manually configured
Fortunately you have improved that, now that you know how how it all works. :-)
Al
Hi,
I am looking for a program similar to head or tail. It should display
a given range of lines or take a line and a context number like grep.
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Al
it interesting, that the two bordercases are considered while
the general approach (range), that would cover all, is missing. Is
that rather for performance or for historical reasons?
Al
DESTDIR=/home/prefix/gentoo/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/texinfo-4.13/image/
install
So it's not configure but make who takes the temporary install directory.
PREFIX is indeed the final target.
Al
t rises the error: 647 vs. 1006.
How can I clean this up?
Thanks
Al
1006.
>>
>> How can I clean this up?
>
> IIRC repo names must be single strings without spaces.
>
What a self destructive idea of me to use whitspaces. Thanks, I changed that.
I started the whole bootstrapping skript from the beginning. So I this
doesn't confirm, if it was the real reason.
Al
Hi Grant,
I can only confirm this. Long lines are difficult to focus, so they
are tiresome to read.
For this reason typical newspapers have small columns. Personally I
even prefer to read ebooks on the very small display of a mobile
phone.
Al
Hello,
I want to find out by which file and line the */temp/environment
script is run or sourced.
As a am always interested in a general way to solve something, I ask
if there is a tool, that displays me the order in which files are
read by a process.
Al
: A useful diagnostic, instructional, and debugging
> tool
>
> Hope that helps.
Arrrgh,
configure: error: operating system cygwin is not supported by strace
Any windows alternative?
Al
the original post that you were looking for a
> Linux tool.
Ooops, I was convinced this was the Gentoo user list.
You know Gentoo != Linux. But there is an intersection.
Al
>
> Perhaps you'd be better off asking in a Cygwin/Windows forum than a
> Linux one?
>
Again, Gentoo != Linux.
But, you are right to suggest the Cygwin list. I didn't anticipate
that such a tool would depend on the kernel architecture. The posix
layer is there.
Al
>
> You're running Gentoo Windows?
>
Yes I do.
>
> Gentoo is Linux but it is not windoze. I have asked a question or two on
Gentoo is not Linux. Gentoo is a community and a build tool.
The build tool depends on bash. It does not depend on the Linux kernel.
Al
there is no Linux kernel.
I have a build script that needs 12 hours to compile the system
packages on Cygwin including the GCC compiler itself.
Al
d chief function
> as we all know is that of a Linux distro...
>
Only Gentoo/Linux is Linux. If you run Gentoo on a diffrent kernel it
is still Gentoo, but it is not Linux any more.
If you run GNU on a different kernel it is still GNU, but it is not
Linux any more.
Al
>
> Cheers for your problem Al, maybe try the gentoo-alt ML to avoid all the
> noise but you sure reach more ppl here.
>
It's also time to get more ppl interested in gentoo-alt.
Gentoo/Windows is more stimulant than Gentoo/BSD I guess, because it
sounds like the opposite side of the planet.
Al
> I understand that Al, but you must keep context in mind here. This
> mailing list, while perhaps not called the 'gentoo linux users list'
> is intended for support for Gentoo Linux. When you post here asking a
A am a wanderer betwenn the worlds. When I think a question is re
d to run Gentoo on Irix, Mac, Interix ...
> Linux and BSD et al. are pretty much just "Unix" (trademark and IP
> arguments aside).
>
Also Interix has Windows kernel. So Gentoo/Windows is around since a
while. Still Interix is more Unix-like than Cygwin.
It was last sunday, when
> it is a communtiy deeply founded in the linux camp and your stupid behaviour
> does not sit well with it.
>
*plonk*
>
> And how were we to learn that when you didn't tell us you weren't
> running Linux/Unix?
>
I already mentioned it a few times. For simple questions, that don't
look like crossing the borders, I don't mention it any more. It draws
away from the topic.
Probably I need to add something clarifying
y have better
> results on the specialized gentoo-alt list, but if you want to post
> here go ahead...just give us some details :)
Have a nice WE
Al
Hello,
please, where do the file usr/lib/portage/bin/misc-functions.sh within
a HTML repository browser, so that I can compare versions?
Thank you
--
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All stupid questions are related to that context.
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