Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Let me add some text I wrote for another place but that explains how things would work: 1) The OpenSource definition http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php section 9 makes it very clear that an OSS license must not restrict other software and must not prevent to bundle different works un

Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL

2010-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:49:22 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > I've just experimented a bit with that and it turned out that > --depclean doesn't clean up the buildtime-only deps. But if I > remove one of them (eg. cabextract), they don't get pulled in again > (that's indicating the depending ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed

2010-08-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:55:04PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote > > I had a similar message, it was there because of the fact that i > specified the wrong (or failed to specify?) mtrr method in my kernel > boot parameters for the framebuffer. I'm using uvesafb and in kernel > documentation (/usr/src/

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Elmar Hinz
2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon : > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz > did opine thusly: > >> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS >> environment variable in make.conf. >> >> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.con

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:48 on Thursday 19 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: > 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon : > > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar > > Hinz > > > > did opine thusly: > >> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel questions

2010-08-19 Thread Elmar Hinz
Thank you all.

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Nganon
On 19 August 2010 14:48, Elmar Hinz wrote: > 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon : > > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar > Hinz > > did opine thusly: > > > >> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS > >> environment variable in make.conf. > >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Graham Murray
Elmar Hinz writes: > 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon : >> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz >> did opine thusly: >> >>> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS >>> environment variable in make.conf. >>> >>> What has LINGUAS todo with mak

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Florian CROUZAT
On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote: > Elmar Hinz writes: > >> 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon : >>> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar >>> Hinz >>> did opine thusly: >>> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS environ

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1

2010-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:05:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > But for critical production machines? Not a flying chance in hell :-) > Too many times I've had to sort out the carnage from idiotic juniors > who blindly run "emerge -uND world" and walk away thinking Unix always > works like RedHat. Why

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Elmar Hinz
>> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. >> >> Has it anything to do with portage at all? > > Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different > languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages > which languages to include/support. > When Port

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Arttu V.
On 8/19/10, Elmar Hinz wrote: >>> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. >>> >>> Has it anything to do with portage at all? >> >> Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different >> languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages >> which langu

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Arttu V.
On 8/19/10, Florian CROUZAT wrote: > > On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote: > >> Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different >> languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages >> which languages to include/support. > > I have access to this b

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread David W Noon
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:50:02 +0200, Elmar Hinz wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS: >2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon : >> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, >> Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: >> >>> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS >>> environm

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Andrea Conti
> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not > portage specific. LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. It's used to control the compile-time inclusion of languages and/or locales for packages which have that kind of option (i.e. OpenOffice, KDE, Firefox and many others); a

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Elmar Hinz
> > No, I think you're mixing up compile-time and run-time values -- and > also reading too much into the file names. "make.conf" should really > rather be called "portage.conf". That would make much more sense IMHO. > :) > As long as the source is the documentation, it should be possible by conce

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Elmar Hinz
2010/8/19 Andrea Conti : >> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not >> portage specific. > > LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. Really? Researching the web I understand it origins from gettext and portage has implemented it. If I understand right, it would still mat

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/19/2010 05:37 AM, Florian CROUZAT wrote: > > On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote: > >> Elmar Hinz writes: >> >>> 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon : Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: > The gentoo wiki s

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/19/2010 06:53 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote: > 2010/8/19 Andrea Conti : >>> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not >>> portage specific. >> >> LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. > > Really? > > Researching the web I understand it origins from gettext and portage > has

Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed

2010-08-19 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/19/2010 04:37 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:55:04PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote >> >> I had a similar message, it was there because of the fact that i >> specified the wrong (or failed to specify?) mtrr method in my kernel >> boot parameters for the framebuffer. I'm using

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions

2010-08-19 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 18.08.2010 21:30, schrieb Elmar Hinz: > 1.) Is there a Map: modules to configration parameters? > > "lspci -k" lists me all modules of the running genkernel. > Unfortunately the configuration parameters of the kernel have > different names. > > > 2.) Which approach would you recommend? > Wi

[gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use for LINGUAS?

2010-08-19 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi list! I'd like to change the LINGUAS setting for a single package. Is there a config file for stuff like this? The thing is: I want to prevent the installation of German man-pages because they are generally inferior to the English originals and while I appreciate the work done to translate the

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1

2010-08-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:49 on Thursday 19 August 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: > On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:05:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > But for critical production machines? Not a flying chance in hell :-) > > Too many times I've had to sort out the carnage from idiotic j

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use for LINGUAS?

2010-08-19 Thread Mirek Dvořák
try in package.use something like app-office/openoffice-bin linguas_en_GB linguas_de Mirek 2010/8/19 Florian Philipp > Hi list! > > I'd like to change the LINGUAS setting for a single package. Is there a > config file for stuff like this? > > The thing is: I want to prevent the installation of G

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use for LINGUAS?

2010-08-19 Thread Andrea Conti
On 19/08/2010 17:49, Florian Philipp wrote: > Hi list! > > I'd like to change the LINGUAS setting for a single package. Is there a > config file for stuff like this? LINGUAS (like VIDEO_CARDS, INPUT_DEVICES and similar stuff) is declared as an USE_EXPAND variable, so that its contents get automat

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1

2010-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:55:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Besides, if I don't give them some form of responsibility they will > never become responsible. Unfortunately, the converse is not necessarily true :( -- Neil Bothwick We have a equal opportunity Calculus class -- it's fully integrate

[gentoo-user] Firefox & Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
Hi all, I'm trying to get Flash (10.1.82.76) installed (and working) on Firefox (3.6.8). I installed adobe-flash and, for good measure, libflash and libflashsupport: media-libs/libflash-0.4.10-r1 www-plugins/libflashsupport-1.2 USE="esd gnutls oss pulseaudio -ssl" www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.1.82

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
Em 19-08-2010 14:34, Hilco Wijbenga escreveu: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to get Flash (10.1.82.76) installed (and working) on > Firefox (3.6.8). I installed adobe-flash and, for good measure, > libflash and libflashsupport: > > media-libs/libflash-0.4.10-r1 > www-plugins/libflashsupport-1.2 USE="es

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 19 August 2010 11:00, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: > I don't have neither > > media-libs/libflash or > www-plugins/libflashsupport > > installed here, only the same version of adobe-flash in x86_64 enviroment. > In adobe site above i receive this answer: > > You have version 10,1,82,76 installed > > Of

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox & Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 08/19/2010 08:34 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to get Flash (10.1.82.76) installed (and working) on Firefox (3.6.8). I installed adobe-flash and, for good measure, libflash and libflashsupport: media-libs/libflash-0.4.10-r1 www-plugins/libflashsupport-1.2 USE="esd gnutls oss

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox & Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
Em 19-08-2010 15:49, Nikos Chantziaras escreveu: > On 08/19/2010 08:34 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm trying to get Flash (10.1.82.76) installed (and working) on >> Firefox (3.6.8). I installed adobe-flash and, for good measure, >> libflash and libflashsupport: >> >> media-libs/lib

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox & Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 19 August 2010 11:49, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > It seems like you have installed it locally.  To find out where it is, > execute this (as normal user): > >  lsof | grep flash > > Firefox must be running and flash loaded (opening a YouTube video should do > it.) Brilliant! That was the problem

[gentoo-user] [OT] Incomplete mysql backup

2010-08-19 Thread Mick
I use mysqldump to back up a database from a development environment and upload it to a production environment. A couple of days ago I was surprised to see that I was getting errors as soon as I uploaded the backed up database to the production machine! I repeated the backup (more in disbelief

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox & Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 19 August 2010 11:59, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: > Did you erased ~/.mozilla directory? > > Calm down first, but think thirst in "mv .mozilla MOZILLA-BCK", then try use > firefox again. :-) I'm quite calm. :-) I didn't erase the whole directory just the lib for the plugin in .mozilla/plugins. That di

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 8/19/2010 9:33 AM, Andrea Conti wrote: >> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not >> portage specific. > > LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. It's used to control the > compile-time inclusion of languages and/or locales for packages which > have that kind of optio

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 8/19/2010 9:53 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote: > But is the following generalization correct? > > * LINGUAS is the compile time setting (for multiple languages) > * LANG is the runtime setting (for the current language). Yes, as long as you're aware that LINGUAS support is recommended, but optional. A

[gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-19 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I just got this elog from updating my gentoo system. It's from freetype-2.4.2: begin -- LOG (postinst) The TrueType bytecode interpreter is no longer patented and thus no longer controlled by the bindist USE flag. Enable the auto-hinter US

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions

2010-08-19 Thread Elmar Hinz
> > With new enough kernel sources (gentoo-sources in stable are good > enough), there is `make localmodconfig` which removes all mods from your > current .config which are not loaded. > There is also `make localyesconfig` which does the same but doesn't > create modules. > > Hope this helps, Yes.

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox & Flash 10

2010-08-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 08/19/2010 10:03 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On 19 August 2010 11:49, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: It seems like you have installed it locally. To find out where it is, execute this (as normal user): lsof | grep flash Firefox must be running and flash loaded (opening a YouTube video should do

Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed

2010-08-19 Thread Mick
On Thursday 19 August 2010 15:47:46 Bill Longman wrote: > On 08/19/2010 04:37 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:55:04PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote > > > >> I had a similar message, it was there because of the fact that i > >> specified the wrong (or failed to specify?) mtrr meth

Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed

2010-08-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Mick wrote: > I think my mtrr is OK, but I do not understand this enough to know if it would > benefit from manual configuration. I think, from the error you posted about originally, it's just letting you know: "Hey, your MTRR was set wrong and we've changed it fo

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:21:20 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > So I looked up "auto-hinter" in the flagedit(1) program. It says: > > auto-hinter: Local Flag: Use the unpatented auto-hinter instead of > > the > (recommended) TrueType bytecode interpreter (media-libs/freetype) > > The placement of

Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed

2010-08-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 19 August 2010 22:43:19 Paul Hartman wrote: > I think, from the error you posted about originally, it's just > letting you know: "Hey, your MTRR was set wrong and we've changed it > for you". So changing it would simply make the message go away but > not actually perform any differentl

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 19 August 2010 21:21:20 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > So I looked up "auto-hinter" in the flagedit(1) program. It says: > auto-hinter: Local Flag: Use the unpatented auto-hinter instead > of the (recommended) TrueType bytecode interpreter (media- > libs/freetype) > > The placement of the "(

[gentoo-user] removing an overlay

2010-08-19 Thread Alan Warren
Hello, I've just sync'd my machine, and realized I'm pulling in a few packages from the devnull overlay that I would rather not. freetype / fontconfig / cairo for example and it's causing some conflicts when I try to update (-auvND world). I mainly use devnull for uzbl, dmenu, and my window manger

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Incomplete mysql backup

2010-08-19 Thread kashani
On 8/19/2010 12:03 PM, Mick wrote: I use mysqldump to back up a database from a development environment and upload it to a production environment. A couple of days ago I was surprised to see that I was getting errors as soon as I uploaded the backed up database to the production machine! I repe

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS

2010-08-19 Thread Andrea Conti
> It's the "official" (as far as > there is such a thing) place to store the list of gettext translations > you want on your system, and most autotools-based builds and binary > package managers also recognize it. I didn't know that. Thanks for clarifying! andrea