Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-20 Thread Alex Schuster
Mark Knecht writes: > Anything in there show network through-put per process? I've been > looking for a way to monitor what's going to each of my VMs? net-analyzer/nethogs does that. Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: >> > sys-process/htop Huh? I only see the total amount of swa

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: > sys-process/htop >>> >>> Huh? I only see the total amount of swap being used, but no entry per >>> process. >> >> Hit F2, and

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: >>> sys-process/htop >> >> Huh? I only see the total amount of swap being used, but no entry per >> process. > > Hit F2, and go down to 'columns'. Anything per-process found under > /proc

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Michael Mol wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Alex Schuster > wrote: [about showing which processes use how much swap] > > Michael Mol writes: [...] > >> sys-process/htop > > > > Huh? I only see the total amount of swap being used, but no entry per > > process. > > Hit F2, and go down

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-15 Thread Alex Schuster
Paul Hartman writes: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Alex Schuster > wrote: > > Finally, I found something. It's Dolphin! [...] > > Now, would this be an MPlayer problem, or one of Dolphin? > > I wonder if Dolphin is generating thumbnails/preview indexes at the > same time you're trying to pl

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Finally, I found something. It's Dolphin! > > I've done some longer testing, always playing the same video parallel > with a dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/10G bs=1M count=1, in mplayer, for a > minute, several times. When I do this by opening t

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 13 May 2012 18:03:59 -0400 > Michael Mol wrote: > >> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >> > On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:01:07 -0400 >> > Michael Mol wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Alan McKinnon

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 13 May 2012 18:03:59 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:01:07 -0400 > > Michael Mol wrote: > > > >> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Alan McKinnon > >> wrote: > >> > On Sun, 13 May 2012 14:12:04 -0400 > >> > Mic

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:01:07 -0400 > Michael Mol wrote: > >> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >> > On Sun, 13 May 2012 14:12:04 -0400 >> > Michael Mol wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Alan McKinnon

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:01:07 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > On Sun, 13 May 2012 14:12:04 -0400 > > Michael Mol wrote: > > > >> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Alan McKinnon > >> wrote: > >> > [1] .avi files are notorious for this shit. I

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 13 May 2012 14:12:04 -0400 > Michael Mol wrote: > >> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >> > [1] .avi files are notorious for this shit. It's what happens when >> > you are Microsoft and you release any old cra

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 13 May 2012 14:12:04 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > [1] .avi files are notorious for this shit. It's what happens when > > you are Microsoft and you release any old crappy format without > > consulting the other experts out there (w

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > [1] .avi files are notorious for this shit. It's what happens when you > are Microsoft and you release any old crappy format without consulting > the other experts out there (who will always outnumber you) Which better container formats were

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 12 May 2012 11:41:33 -0400 Norman Invasion wrote: > On 12 May 2012 11:05, Alex Schuster wrote: > > Norman Invasion writes: > > > >> On 11 May 2012 21:40, Alex Schuster wrote: > >> > Finally, I found something. It's Dolphin! > > [...] > >> Apologies: I haven't followed this thread from t

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Michael Mol writes: > >> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Alex Schuster >> wrote: >> > Dale writes: >> > >> >> Is there a way to find out what is using swap?  Maybe something >> >> related to the video is on swap which at times can be slow,

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-12 Thread Alex Schuster
Michael Mol writes: > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Alex Schuster > wrote: > > Dale writes: > > > >> Is there a way to find out what is using swap?  Maybe something > >> related to the video is on swap which at times can be slow, > >> certainly slower than ram. > >> > >> I have always wondered

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Dale writes: > >> Is there a way to find out what is using swap?  Maybe something related >> to the video is on swap which at times can be slow, certainly slower >> than ram. >> >> I have always wondered how to find this out myself. > > Me to

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-12 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: > Is there a way to find out what is using swap? Maybe something related > to the video is on swap which at times can be slow, certainly slower > than ram. > > I have always wondered how to find this out myself. Me too, so when I had this sudden swap problem for the first time, I s

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-12 Thread Norman Invasion
On 12 May 2012 11:05, Alex Schuster wrote: > Norman Invasion writes: > >> On 11 May 2012 21:40, Alex Schuster wrote: >> > Finally, I found something. It's Dolphin! > [...] >> Apologies: I haven't followed this thread from the beginning, > > Which was quite long ago :) > >> but do you have any adv

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-12 Thread Alex Schuster
Norman Invasion writes: > On 11 May 2012 21:40, Alex Schuster wrote: > > Finally, I found something. It's Dolphin! [...] > Apologies: I haven't followed this thread from the beginning, Which was quite long ago :) > but do you have any advanced power management features > enabled (especially har

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-12 Thread Norman Invasion
On 11 May 2012 21:40, Alex Schuster wrote: > Finally, I found something. It's Dolphin! > > I've done some longer testing, always playing the same video parallel > with a dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/10G bs=1M count=1, in mplayer, for a > minute, several times. When I do this by opening the file in

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-11 Thread Alex Schuster
Finally, I found something. It's Dolphin! I've done some longer testing, always playing the same video parallel with a dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/10G bs=1M count=1, in mplayer, for a minute, several times. When I do this by opening the file in Dolphin, I get about 15 interruptions, some for longe

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-10 Thread Alex Schuster
Paul Hartman writes: > I realize this thread is bigger than an encyclopedia by now, so I > apologize if this has already been suggested. :) Well, I'm happy for any input on this :) This problem is really annoying. > I'm curious if you look at /proc/interrupts if the disk with I/O > problems is

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Neil Bothwick writes: > >> On Wed, 9 May 2012 21:44:19 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: >> >> > I guess I could remove anything running on my KDE desktop one by one, >> > including plasmoids, and see if playback gets better. But not now, I >> > fin

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-10 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 10.05.2012 05:59, schrieb Adam Carter: >> There's plenty of swap space available. With 16 G of RAM it should not >> be needed, but sometimes my load gets really really high, and when I can >> use the system again, there is 2-3 G of swap usage. I haven't found out >> yet what this is, it seems

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-10 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: >> Is there a way to find out what is using swap? Maybe something related >> to the video is on swap which at times can be slow, certainly slower >> than ram. >> >> I have always wondered how to find this out myself. > > Well the OS uses swap, i dont know if its possible to the

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-09 Thread Adam Carter
> There's plenty of swap space available. With 16 G of RAM it should not > be needed, but sometimes my load gets really really high, and when I can > use the system again, there is 2-3 G of swap usage. I haven't found out > yet what this is, it seems to happen when emerging things, maybe related >

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-09 Thread Adam Carter
> Is there a way to find out what is using swap?  Maybe something related > to the video is on swap which at times can be slow, certainly slower > than ram. > > I have always wondered how to find this out myself. Well the OS uses swap, i dont know if its possible to then tie that directly to a pro

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-09 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: > Neil Bothwick writes: > >> On Wed, 9 May 2012 21:44:19 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: >> >>> I guess I could remove anything running on my KDE desktop one by one, >>> including plasmoids, and see if playback gets better. But not now, I >>> finally have to actually do some work.

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Neil Bothwick writes: > On Wed, 9 May 2012 21:44:19 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > > > I guess I could remove anything running on my KDE desktop one by one, > > including plasmoids, and see if playback gets better. But not now, I > > finally have to actually do some work. > > I recently experienc

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 May 2012 21:44:19 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > I guess I could remove anything running on my KDE desktop one by one, > including plasmoids, and see if playback gets better. But not now, I > finally have to actually do some work. I recently experienced slowdowns and delays with KDE. It

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-09 Thread Alex Schuster
I wrote: > Mark Knecht writes: > >OK, fire up two terminals. In one run top, hit 1 & z so you see all > > your CPUs and then watch CPU usage. In the second terminal su to root > > and run iotop -o. Now, watch for a few minutes and get a feel for > > what's going on when video is not running.

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-08 Thread Simon
> Also, there was a thread a good while back with this issue and their fix > was to do a emerge -e world with everything optimized for their CPU and > such.  May be worth thinking about at least. Video playback and CPU optimisations go hand in hand. One video I have had for a long time, I could n

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-07 Thread Stroller
On 7 May 2012, at 21:43, Dale wrote: > ... > Also, there was a thread a good while back with this issue and their fix > was to do a emerge -e world with everything optimized for their CPU and > such. May be worth thinking about at least. I understood that issue as significantly different - in th

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Mark Knecht writes: > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Alex Schuster > wrote: > > Some while ago, I wrote: > > > > [ > > mplayer stutters when I/O is going on, even hangs for seconds when I > > do a dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile bs=1M > > ] [...] >OK, fire up two terminals. In one run top, hit 1

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: > When I first built this rig, I ran into this issue as well. What I did > was tell smplayer, in my case, to cache more of the video. I have mine > set to cache 6Mbs and it plays fine even on HD videos. I have cache = 131072 and cache-min=20.0 in .mplayer/config. That's 128MB, this

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-07 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: <<< SNIP >>> > Now this is really annoying. I watch small clips mostly, and can live > with that, and when I want to watch stuff with others, I copy the file to > tmpfs, which seems to help a lot. > > But now I found another solution: NOT USING KDE. > > When X crashed (trying

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Michael Hampicke writes: > Am 07.05.2012 18:26, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > > Am Montag, 7. Mai 2012, 14:41:34 schrieb Alex Schuster: > >> Some while ago, I wrote: > >> > >> [ > >> mplayer stutters when I/O is going on, even hangs for seconds when I > >> do a dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile bs=1M

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Some while ago, I wrote: > > [ > mplayer stutters when I/O is going on, even hangs for seconds when I do a > dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile bs=1M > ] > >> Urs Schutz writes: >> >> > Just an idea: Is the disk OK? Replace /dev/sda with your >> > di

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 7. Mai 2012, 19:25:29 schrieb Michael Hampicke: > > nice idea - but that didn't help in the past. Why should it help now? > > > > The question is - why does disk IO make the mouse jerky and delays > > keyboard > > input? That is just idiotic. > > It was just an idea, but maybe there's

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-07 Thread Michael Hampicke
> nice idea - but that didn't help in the past. Why should it help now? > > The question is - why does disk IO make the mouse jerky and delays keyboard > input? That is just idiotic. It was just an idea, but maybe there's something wrong on the hardware side? Broken cable, hard drive about to di

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 7. Mai 2012, 18:44:05 schrieb Michael Hampicke: > Maybe changing the kernel io scheduler will help? > > # /usr/src/linux/Documentation/block/switching-sched.txt > # /usr/src/linux/Documentation/block/deadline-iosched.txt > # /usr/src/linux/Documentation/block/cfq-iosched.txt nice idea

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-07 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 07.05.2012 18:26, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > Am Montag, 7. Mai 2012, 14:41:34 schrieb Alex Schuster: >> Some while ago, I wrote: >> >> [ >> mplayer stutters when I/O is going on, even hangs for seconds when I do a >> dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile bs=1M >> ] >> >>> Urs Schutz writes: Ju

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 7. Mai 2012, 14:41:34 schrieb Alex Schuster: > Some while ago, I wrote: > > [ > mplayer stutters when I/O is going on, even hangs for seconds when I do a > dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile bs=1M > ] > > > Urs Schutz writes: > > > Just an idea: Is the disk OK? Replace /dev/sda with your > >

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-05-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Some while ago, I wrote: [ mplayer stutters when I/O is going on, even hangs for seconds when I do a dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile bs=1M ] > Urs Schutz writes: > > > Just an idea: Is the disk OK? Replace /dev/sda with your > > disk... [...] > > I had a bad disk here, which resulted in slow IO, but

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-18 Thread Alex Schuster
Urs Schutz writes: > Just an idea: Is the disk OK? Replace /dev/sda with your > disk... > > smartctl -t short /dev/sda > > and after some minutes > > smartctl --all /dev/sda > > If all went OK then the status is «PASSED», and you could > try the extended or long tests with smartctl. I have sm

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-18 Thread Urs Schutz
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:04:07 +0100 Alex Schuster wrote: ... > > Then I tried another video, again with the settings you > suggested, and it stuttered. There were small pauses when > the system did some stuff, and when I did my dd test, the > pauses were as long as five seconds. FIVE SECONDS! >

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-18 Thread Alex Schuster
James Broadhead writes: > Please try: > ~/.mplayer/config > lavdopts=threads=2 > # Use 128MiB input cache by default. > cache = 131072 > # Prefill 20% of the cache before starting playback. > cache-min = 20.0 > > Which should eliminate disk IO somewhat James, thanks for your input. I a

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-18 Thread James Broadhead
On 18 February 2012 05:45, Alex Schuster wrote: > Walter Dnes writes: > >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 04:29:48PM +0100, Alex Schuster wrote >> >> > Then my hardware broke, and I got new one... >> >>   I had ***EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM ON A FRESH INSTALL***.  In My case >> it was a 4+ year old Dell wi

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Walter Dnes writes: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 04:29:48PM +0100, Alex Schuster wrote > > > Then my hardware broke, and I got new one... > > I had ***EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM ON A FRESH INSTALL***. In My case > it was a 4+ year old Dell with onboard Intel GPU that was having > problems playing

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Paul Hartman writes: > I wonder if you copy the movie to /dev/shm first (so disk I/O is not > an issue) does it still have problems? At least this can potentially > eliminate disk I/O as the cause if something else weird is going on. > :) Yes, this helps. As does copying the movie to another part

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-17 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 04:29:48PM +0100, Alex Schuster wrote > Then my hardware broke, and I got new one... I had ***EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM ON A FRESH INSTALL***. In My case it was a 4+ year old Dell with onboard Intel GPU that was having problems playing NHL Gamecenter Live streams at the

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Mark Knecht writes: > >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Alex Schuster >> wrote: > >> > How can I find out in such a case which processes are waiting >> > for I/O? top showed nothing. >> >> iotop is your friend. > > I had called it, but did

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-16 Thread Alex Schuster
Mark Knecht writes: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Alex Schuster > wrote: > > How can I find out in such a case which processes are waiting > > for I/O? top showed nothing. > > iotop is your friend. I had called it, but didn't spot the problem there. I don't remember exactly what the outpu

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Paul Hartman writes: > >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Alex Schuster >> wrote: > >> > Then my hardware broke, and I got new one, except for the system hard >> > drive and the PSU. It's an AMD FX-4100 quad-core with 3.6 GHz, 16 G of >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-16 Thread Alex Schuster
Paul Hartman writes: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Alex Schuster > wrote: > > Then my hardware broke, and I got new one, except for the system hard > > drive and the PSU. It's an AMD FX-4100 quad-core with 3.6 GHz, 16 G of > > RAM. Running gentoo-sources-3.2.1 as kernel. But it seems playin

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: > I've written here in the past about my performance problems. My dual-core > had trouble playing movies without stuttering when there was I/O. It was > mainly swapping that caused this, and 8 G were not enough for me running > KDE4. > > Then m

Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Hi there! > Hi back at ya. > How can I find out in such a case which processes are waiting > for I/O? top showed nothing. iotop is your friend. I'll write more when I get some time to think HTH, Mark

[gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs

2012-02-16 Thread Alex Schuster
Hi there! Strange things are going on here. I've written here in the past about my performance problems. My dual-core had trouble playing movies without stuttering when there was I/O. It was mainly swapping that caused this, and 8 G were not enough for me running KDE4. Then my hardware broke, an