Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:08:58 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>>> That's just sensible, although a new combination is more likely to
>>> fail because of the kernel than the init thingy.
>>>
>> The kernel loaded, it was late in the process, about or at the time the
>> switch root is sup
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:11:18 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> I got stuck on: dev-libs/boost-1.62.0-r1
>
> i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: error: unrecognized command line option
> ‘-std=c++14’ ...failed updating 1 target...
> * ERROR: dev-libs/boost-1.62.0-r1::gentoo failed (compile phase):
> *
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:08:58 -0600, Dale wrote:
> > That's just sensible, although a new combination is more likely to
> > fail because of the kernel than the init thingy.
> >
>
> The kernel loaded, it was late in the process, about or at the time the
> switch root is supposed to happen, that i
Thelma
On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months).
[snip]
I got stuck on: dev-libs/boost-1.62.0-r1
i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-std=c++14’
...failed updating 1 target...
* ERROR
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:45:12 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>>> init thingies have changed a lot since your Mandr{ake,iva}
>>> experiences. The way the kernel handles them is very different and
>>> the tools used to build them have changed greatly. Mandrake used
>>> their on init thing
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:45:12 -0600, Dale wrote:
> > init thingies have changed a lot since your Mandr{ake,iva}
> > experiences. The way the kernel handles them is very different and
> > the tools used to build them have changed greatly. Mandrake used
> > their on init thingy builder, as did most d
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Alan McKinnon
wrote:
> On 30/01/2017 23:46, Grant Edwards wrote:
> > I've got a couple Gentoo machines that normally run 24/7. I've
> > learned over the years that it's a good idea to reboot them
> > occasionally (when I have some spare time and I know they're id
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:16:19 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>> Now that I'm basically forced to have a init thingy, that is a
>> additional reason not to reboot. In the past, another distro, the init
>> thingy would break and I couldn't boot. I despise having to have a init
>> thingy
On 2017-01-30, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 30/01/2017 23:46, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> I've got a couple Gentoo machines that normally run 24/7. I've
>> learned over the years that it's a good idea to reboot them
>> occasionally (when I have some spare time and I know they're idle)
>> just to make th
On 30/01/2017 23:46, Grant Edwards wrote:
> I've got a couple Gentoo machines that normally run 24/7. I've
> learned over the years that it's a good idea to reboot them
> occasionally (when I have some spare time and I know they're idle)
> just to make they still can.
>
> I've settled on roughly
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:16:19 -0600, Dale wrote:
> Now that I'm basically forced to have a init thingy, that is a
> additional reason not to reboot. In the past, another distro, the init
> thingy would break and I couldn't boot. I despise having to have a init
> thingy. If I ever replace the har
On 30/01/2017 23:40, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>
> On 01/30/2017 02:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 30/01/2017 22:57, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> grub:0 doesn't have a multislot USE flag, only grub:0 does
>
> Thank Alan, I just blocked off grub all together.
> So the system is compili
Grant Edwards wrote:
> I've got a couple Gentoo machines that normally run 24/7. I've
> learned over the years that it's a good idea to reboot them
> occasionally (when I have some spare time and I know they're idle)
> just to make they still can.
>
> I've settled on roughly once a month or so.
>
I've got a couple Gentoo machines that normally run 24/7. I've
learned over the years that it's a good idea to reboot them
occasionally (when I have some spare time and I know they're idle)
just to make they still can.
I've settled on roughly once a month or so.
What seems to happen if I don't d
On 01/30/2017 02:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 30/01/2017 22:57, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> On 01/30/2017 01:41 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>> On 2017-01-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> I haven't updated my system for over
On 01/30/2017 12:57 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 01/30/2017 01:41 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2017-01-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>> On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months).
I was trying to
On 30/01/2017 22:57, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 01/30/2017 01:41 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2017-01-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>> On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months).
I was trying to up
Put the following in package.mask on systems not using grub2 to prevent
it from installing:
sys-boot/grub:2
On 01/30/2017 09:57 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 01/30/2017 01:41 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2017-01-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>> On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-
On 01/30/2017 01:41 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2017-01-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>> I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months).
>>> I was trying to upgrade my firefox-bin and I'm already running into
>>> pr
On 30/01/2017 22:32, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months).
>> I was trying to upgrade my firefox-bin and I'm already running into problems.
>>
> [snip]
>
>
> OK, I have just few bl
On 2017-01-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months).
>> I was trying to upgrade my firefox-bin and I'm already running into problems.
>>
> [snip]
>
> OK, I have just few blockers.
On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months).
> I was trying to upgrade my firefox-bin and I'm already running into problems.
>
[snip]
OK, I have just few blockers. What to do with them?
I have grup-0.97-r16 installed i
Subject says it all...
I acquired (on the cheap) a used Surface Pro 3 with the keyboard cover
off of a relative who wasn't using it (they said the screen was too small.)
I am considering putting Gentoo (or attempting to) and am wondering if
anyone has had success.
It looks like newer kernels hav
On Monday 30 Jan 2017 10:56:09 Alan Grimes wrote:
> I had to reboot my system again due to video driver update.
>
> I had set up a new build of my kernel in a UEFI partition. The
> BIOS/firmware seemed to be happy with the location.
What made you reach this conclusion?
> The machine stops stone
On Monday 30 Jan 2017 06:10:47 Tom H wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Mick wrote:
> > On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 14:44:45 Tom H wrote:
> >> [1] Apple's EFI firmware can read hfsplus and it boots (IIRC since OS
> >> X 10.10) from a kernel on the Apple_Boot partition (disk0s3).
> >
> > Yes, App
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Alan Grimes wrote:
> I had to reboot my system again due to video driver update.
>
> I had set up a new build of my kernel in a UEFI partition. The
> BIOS/firmware seemed to be happy with the location.
>
> The machine stops stone cold dead the instant the firmware
On 01/30/2017 09:31 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 30/01/2017 17:15, Corbin Bird wrote:
>> On 01/30/2017 08:56 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500,
Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
But I found binutils-config
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:31:09 -0500,
Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> On 30/01/2017 17:15, Corbin Bird wrote:
> >
> > On 01/30/2017 08:56 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500,
> >>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >>
> >>> B
I had to reboot my system again due to video driver update.
I had set up a new build of my kernel in a UEFI partition. The
BIOS/firmware seemed to be happy with the location.
The machine stops stone cold dead the instant the firmware tries to
transfer control to the new kernel.
I found a switch
On 2017-01-29, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 29/01/2017 22:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months).
[...]
>> What is my best option, re-install from scratch, upgrade in stages etc.
> 1 year 3 months isn't usually that bad and it can be do
On 30/01/2017 17:15, Corbin Bird wrote:
>
> On 01/30/2017 08:56 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500,
>>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>>
>>> But I found binutils-config and just switched from 2.25-r1 to 2.27, so
>>> I will
On 30/01/2017 17:14, John Covici wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:56:29 -0500,
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>> On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500,
>>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>
>>> But I found binutils-config and just switched from 2.25-r1
On 01/30/2017 08:56 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500,
>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> [snip]
>
>
>> But I found binutils-config and just switched from 2.25-r1 to 2.27, so
>> I will see what happens.
>> So, after removing the old ver
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:56:29 -0500,
Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500,
> > Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >>
>
> [snip]
>
>
> > But I found binutils-config and just switched from 2.25-r1 to 2.27, so
> > I will see what happens.
> > S
On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500,
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
[snip]
> But I found binutils-config and just switched from 2.25-r1 to 2.27, so
> I will see what happens.
> So, after removing the old versions of binutils, the preserved-rebuild
> problem we
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500,
Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> On 30/01/2017 13:57, John Covici wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 03:37:01 -0500,
> > Tuomo Hartikainen wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> On 2017-01-29 05:11, John Covici wrote:
> >>> Hi. I am having a couple of preserved rebuild proble
On 30/01/2017 01:06, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 22:10:59 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 19:17:47 +, Mick wrote:
Are you running fstrim once in a while like it's recommended?
Apparently using 'discard' as an option when mounting is no longer
recommended. On m
On 30/01/2017 13:57, John Covici wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 03:37:01 -0500,
> Tuomo Hartikainen wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> On 2017-01-29 05:11, John Covici wrote:
>>> Hi. I am having a couple of preserved rebuild problems which I have
>>> no idea how to fix.
>>>
>>> The first one is like this:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 12:13:28 +, Stroller wrote:
> One of my hacks is to compile a list of outdated packages in a text
> file, then apply commands like `for package in $(cat list.txt) ; do
> emerge -1 $package ; done`. It's dirty and kludgy, but if you have 100
> files to update and 80 of them
> On 29 Jan 2017, at 20:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>
> I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months).
> I was trying to upgrade my firefox-bin and I'm already running into problems.
>
> What is my best option, re-install from scratch, upgrade in stages etc.
> With firef
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 03:37:01 -0500,
Tuomo Hartikainen wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> On 2017-01-29 05:11, John Covici wrote:
> > Hi. I am having a couple of preserved rebuild problems which I have
> > no idea how to fix.
> >
> > The first one is like this:
> > >>> package: sys-libs/binutils-libs-2.27
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 14:44:45 Tom H wrote:
>>
>> [1] Apple's EFI firmware can read hfsplus and it boots (IIRC since OS
>> X 10.10) from a kernel on the Apple_Boot partition (disk0s3).
>
> Yes, Apple's firmware reads the blessed hfs+ partition and fis
On Monday 30 Jan 2017 10:02:20 I wrote:
> On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 09:59:53 Daniel Frey wrote:
> > As far as monitoring, some vendors have tools for that I believe. They
> > usually do run SMART.
>
> I've found an off-line testing suite here [1], which I'll have a play
> with.
Oops!
[1] https:/
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:22:14 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Also, I'd start with @system first, then work on @world.
> > Only bad thing is, KDE, if you have it installed, is in @system
> > because of dependencies, last I checked anyway. That will make
> > @system a lot of fun itself.
>
> It
On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 15:32:22 Dale wrote:
> Might I also add, the -t option can reveal what is causing what
> sometimes.
It's never helped me though: whatever can't be installed breaks the tree
building so I get no indentation.
> Also, I'd start with @system first, then work on @world.
> Only
On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 09:59:53 Daniel Frey wrote:
> As far as monitoring, some vendors have tools for that I believe. They
> usually do run SMART.
I've found an off-line testing suite here [1], which I'll have a play with.
> Are you running fstrim once in a while like it's recommended? Apparentl
On Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:32:22 PM CET Dale wrote:
> Might I also add, the -t option can reveal what is causing what
> sometimes. Also, I'd start with @system first, then work on @world.
> Only bad thing is, KDE, if you have it installed, is in @system because
> of dependencies, last I checked
Hi John,
On 2017-01-29 05:11, John Covici wrote:
> Hi. I am having a couple of preserved rebuild problems which I have
> no idea how to fix.
>
> The first one is like this:
> >>> package: sys-libs/binutils-libs-2.27
> * - /usr/lib64/libbfd-2.25.1.so
> * used by
> /usr/lib64/binutils/x
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