Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: > > > > On March 17, 2012 at 8:43 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > >> initramfs side of things. I did have to use one to bring up my server >> with / on a RAID6, not because I needed it long term but in the short >> term I couldn't determine how

[gentoo-user] Re: Assistance if possible

On 18/03/12 06:15, Colleen Beamer wrote: However, activitymanager can't be reinstalled because there isn't an upgrade to 4.8.1. Since I went about things the way I did, I can't get this package installed because everything else is upgraded to 4.8.1 and activitymanager's latest version is 4.7.4.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

On March 17, 2012 at 10:57 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. > wrote: > > > > > > > > On March 17, 2012 at 8:48 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > >> On 17/03/12 13:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> > Hello, Nikos. > >> > > >> > On Sat, Mar 17, 20

[gentoo-user] Assistance if possible

Hi, All of you guys that are more experienced and technical than I am will probably laugh at me. However Today, I wanted to update my computer. I got all kinds of messages related to kde stuff. One my one, I unmerged the offending packages and added the line to my package.keywords file so

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On March 17, 2012 at 8:43 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > initramfs side of things. I did have to use one to bring up my server > with / on a RAID6, not because I needed it long term but in the short > term I couldn't determine how mdadm was numbering the RAID so that I > could get grub.conf correct.

[gentoo-user] Power management or something?

I have a fresh install of Gentoo on my laptop and I'm having some trouble with the backlight that I think is related to the screen going into some sort of power save mode or something along those lines. Are there power management settings somewhere or something similar? I'm on xfce4. - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

On March 17, 2012 at 10:20 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: > Android != Linux (in context of userspace) > > To get a phone shipped with a running Linux (in the usual definition of > Linux, not Richard Stallman's) you need that Nokia one that will never > again see the light of day. > > Or root your So

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: > > > > On March 17, 2012 at 9:45 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés" > wrote: > > >> But again, remember that I'm biased: I keep an overlay to run Gentoo >> systems with only systemd; no OpenRC, no baselayout, no SysV. You guys >> can try it if you wa

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and permissions problems

On March 17, 2012 at 9:11 AM pk wrote: > That's what gives you permission to use 'su' as a member of the 'wheel' > group ('su' is controlled by 'pam'). > > Best regards > > Peter K > Am I eternally confused? su - change user ID or become superuser It's not _only_ to become root (maybe theo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

On March 17, 2012 at 9:45 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: > But again, remember that I'm biased: I keep an overlay to run Gentoo > systems with only systemd; no OpenRC, no baselayout, no SysV. You guys > can try it if you want: > > http://xochitl.matem.unam.mx/~canek/gentoo-systemd-only/ > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: > > > > On March 17, 2012 at 8:48 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 17/03/12 13:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> > Hello, Nikos. >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 08:25:48AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> > >> >>> Happy Computer Users, sys

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

On Mar 18, 2012 9:44 AM, "Joshua Murphy" wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 18/03/12 03:45, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> > > >> [...] > >> > >> * It tries to unify Linux behaviour among distros (some can argue that > >> this is a bad thing): Using sys

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

On March 17, 2012 at 8:48 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 17/03/12 13:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hello, Nikos. > > > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 08:25:48AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > >>> Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon. > > > >> No, we don't. I hope systemd arriv

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and permissions problems

pk wrote: > On 2012-03-17 11:19, Dale wrote: > >> The program 'su' could not be found. >> Ensure your PATH is set correctly. > > What does 'echo $PATH' give you? /bin should be in your path (that's > where 'su' is located, or should be)... My $PATH looks like this: > /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 18/03/12 03:45, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> * It tries to unify Linux behaviour among distros (some can argue that >> this is a bad thing): Using systemd, the same >> configurations/techniques work the same in every

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Mar 18, 2012 8:48 AM, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: >> >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Nikos Chantziaras >> wrote: >> > On 17/03/12 13:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello, Nikos. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 08:25:48AM

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

On Mar 18, 2012 8:48 AM, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 17/03/12 13:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> > >> Hello, Nikos. > >> > >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 08:25:48AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> > Happy Computer Users, s

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 17:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:10:35 -0700 > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > >> 4) I don't use a separate /usr so I don't need any of this. I suspect > >> most casual Gentoo users like me are p

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

On 18/03/12 03:45, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 17/03/12 13:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Nikos. On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 08:25:48AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon. No, we don

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 17/03/12 13:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> >> Hello, Nikos. >> >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 08:25:48AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon. >> >> >>> No, we don't.  I hope systemd arrive

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

On 17/03/12 13:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Nikos. On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 08:25:48AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon. No, we don't. I hope systemd arrives soon. It's the best init system I ever saw. What's so good about it? What wil

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:10:35 -0700 > Mark Knecht wrote: > >> 4) I don't use a separate /usr so I don't need any of this. I suspect >> most casual Gentoo users like me are pretty much the same. > > This news item in no way applies to you and

[gentoo-user] Re: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:10:35 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: > 4) I don't use a separate /usr so I don't need any of this. I suspect > most casual Gentoo users like me are pretty much the same. > > 4) I am going to look at doing a dual boot Gentoo install on some > system here at home to try this out.

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev for udev substitution instructions web page is up

On 03/17/2012 03:51 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > The page will be permanently "under construction", i.e. evolving as > we find out more about how mdev works. Unless you want to maintain total control of the data flow I would suggest turning that page into a new wiki page at

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On 2012-03-17 21:09, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > seriously, you have seemed to miss some news. There is a move by redhat&co to > move almost everything from / to /usr. With nothing left than some > mountpoints > - why put / on its own partition? There is nothing to contain apart from > /etc.

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:10:35 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: > 4) I don't use a separate /usr so I don't need any of this. I suspect > most casual Gentoo users like me are pretty much the same. This news item in no way applies to you and you are completely unaffected. You can safely update openrc and u

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

Am Samstag, 17. März 2012, 20:40:02 schrieb pk: > On 2012-03-17 19:38, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > you know, with that 'put everything into /usr' crap going on, I don't see > > any reason to have a seperate /usr at all. /root is completely empty. So > > what? Put everything on one partition and

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On 2012-03-17 19:38, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > you know, with that 'put everything into /usr' crap going on, I don't see any > reason to have a seperate /usr at all. /root is completely empty. So what? > Put > everything on one partition and go on. Yes, let's do away with partitions altoget

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

you know, with that 'put everything into /usr' crap going on, I don't see any reason to have a seperate /usr at all. /root is completely empty. So what? Put everything on one partition and go on. I will not use an initramfs if I can get away with it. -- #163933

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> 1) Unmasking udev-181 doesn't mean it becomes stable, so I am assuming >> (for now) that since I run stable Gentoo this won't directly effect me >> on Monday. Comments? > > Th

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. > wrote: >>  This item just appeared after eix-sync: >> >> HTPC ~ # eselect news read >> 2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking >>  Title                     udev-181 unmasking >>  Author                

Re: [gentoo-user] Where does /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight come from?

[snip] > I have to enter 'echo 0 > > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness' again every time > xlockmore comes on.  Does anyone know what's going on there? > > - Grant Strangely, this isn't required unless xlockmore has been running for at least a few minutes. Does it sound like this is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads Up - sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20120127084908 might break your system -- openvpn still fails

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 02:32:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > I've anyone is hit by this and doesn't have a way to download an older > version anymore, the solution is fairly simple: > >ln -s /bin/ifconfig /sbin/ >/etc/init.d/net.lo restart >/etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart >r

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: >  This item just appeared after eix-sync: > > HTPC ~ # eselect news read > 2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking >  Title                     udev-181 unmasking >  Author                    William Hubbs >  Posted                    2012-03-16 >  R

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:27:02 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. > wrote: > > > > > > > > On March 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés" > > wrote: > > > > > >> Alan, the "vast majority" of Linux users right now are phone users. > > > >> At l

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:33:55 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > I also have a rule on a headless media server to run a script that > > > mounts a USB stick, copies files to it, unmounts it and lets me > > > know when it is done. I can mark files for copying at any time > > > and my wife can just pl

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On 17-Mar-12 13:50, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-03-17 12:11 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: An initramfs which does this is created by =sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.25.1 or =sys-kernel/dracut-017-r1. If you do not want to use these tools, be sure any initramfs you create pre-mounts /usr. Ok, I have nev

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On Saturday 17 March 2012 12:54:53 Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > genkernel is pretty simple to use if you ask me. > just > > emerege genkernel > > and then use > > genkerenl --menuconfig all > > it will do everything for you the same as in a regular kernel > compiling. > > you have instructions o

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev for udev substitution instructions web page is up

On Saturday 17 Mar 2012 13:13:25 Mike Edenfield wrote: > > Walter Dnes wrote: > > The instructions for replacing udev with mdev are now up at > > http://www.waltdnes.org/mdev/ validator.w3.org complains about a couple > > of extensions I used, but it appears to work OK in both Firefox and > > Mido

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

Stroller writes: > Ok, so my system has 2 network cards. Maybe I only use one of them, or > maybe they need to be physically connected in a certain way (one to > LAN, the other WAN). In this particular case, it is pity that it is not more deterministic in the first place. When installing a new s

RE: [gentoo-user] mdev for udev substitution instructions web page is up

> Walter Dnes wrote: > The instructions for replacing udev with mdev are now up at > http://www.waltdnes.org/mdev/ validator.w3.org complains about a couple > of extensions I used, but it appears to work OK in both Firefox and > Midori. Any comments from users of other browsers? The page will be

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and permissions problems

On 2012-03-17 11:19, Dale wrote: > The program 'su' could not be found. > Ensure your PATH is set correctly. What does 'echo $PATH' give you? /bin should be in your path (that's where 'su' is located, or should be)... My $PATH looks like this: /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On 17/03/2012 14:50, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-03-17 12:11 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: An initramfs which does this is created by =sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.25.1 or =sys-kernel/dracut-017-r1. If you do not want to use these tools, be sure any initramfs you create pre-mounts /usr. Ok, I have ne

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On 2012-03-17 12:11 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: An initramfs which does this is created by =sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.25.1 or =sys-kernel/dracut-017-r1. If you do not want to use these tools, be sure any initramfs you create pre-mounts /usr. Ok, I have never used genkernel, and have no desire

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On March 17, 2012 at 7:59 AM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello Bruce, > > Thanks for the heads up. > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 12:11:23AM -0400, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: > > This item just appeared after eix-sync: > > > udev-181 is being unmasked on 2012-03-19. > > Why is he in such a hurry? > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

On March 17, 2012 at 4:00 AM Andrea Conti wrote: > > This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of > > udev >=181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot your > > system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr. > > [...] > > > Happy Computer Users, syst

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

Hello Bruce, Thanks for the heads up. On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 12:11:23AM -0400, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: > This item just appeared after eix-sync: > udev-181 is being unmasked on 2012-03-19. Why is he in such a hurry? > For more information on why this has been done, see the following URL: > ht

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

Hello, Nikos. On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 08:25:48AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon. > No, we don't. I hope systemd arrives soon. It's the best init system I > ever saw. What's so good about it? What will it do for me? I have this horrible

[gentoo-user] KDE and permissions problems

Howdy, This is sort of weird. I upgraded my kernel to gentoo's 3.2.9. When I rebooted, I noticed some odd issues with permissions. When I try to log into Konsole or some other root access program, I get something like this: The program 'su' could not be found. Ensure your PATH is set correctly

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

> This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of > udev >=181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot your > system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr. [...] > Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon. The problem, if you really want to call t