Re: [gentoo-user] Abut smb:// aware tools

Am Freitag 02 Oktober 2009 22:56:31 schrieb Harry Putnam: > I'd really like to be able to use UNK addressing from the cmd line. > > cd //host/share > You can do `cd //linux-host/share' in a bash terminal You can do it on Linux, too. Use the kernel automounter and set it up to mount shares u

[gentoo-user] Re: Abut smb:// aware tools

walt writes: > On 10/02/2009 01:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Do we have tools other than Konqueror that are aware of smb/UNK >> addressing? >> >> Before you answer please note that: >> I know about ssh >> I know about fuse >> I know about mount -tcifs >> >> I'd really like to be able to use UNK

xorg-server update (was: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 bugs update)

Alex Schuster writes: > And then... some days ago I wanted to try ati-drivers-9.8, and had to > upgrade 6 packages, xorg-1.6 and such. I quickpkg'd them, tried the new > drivers (no success of course), downgraded with --usepkg, and still I > cannot get it to work again. I am using the radeon drive

[gentoo-user] Re: bzflag is broken

Nikos Chantziaras arcor.de> writes: > Well, actually one thing that stands out is that I'm using newer > versions of most of the dependencies. I might have found my problem: # xdriinfo Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". Screen 0: not direct rendering capable. ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 bugs update

Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > On Dienstag 29 September 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: > > Philip Webb writes: > > > I've added to a number of KDE bugs relating to problems with 4.3.1 . > > > > Thanks for doing so! Hopefully this will improve KDE. > > > > I also have a huuuge list of KDE bugs, but I a

[gentoo-user] Re: Abut smb:// aware tools

On 10/02/2009 01:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Do we have tools other than Konqueror that are aware of smb/UNK addressing? Before you answer please note that: I know about ssh I know about fuse I know about mount -tcifs I'd really like to be able to use UNK addressing from the cmd line. cd //h

[gentoo-user] Re: Double nautilus windows for each USB flash drive plugged in

On 10/02/2009 02:10 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: Hello, Walt: I had "Browse removable media when inserted" checked. Sure enough, when unchecked, a nautilus window opens. I also notice that two options are checked. I don't understand what the difference between them would be: Mount removeabl

[gentoo-user] Re: kvm and Intel E5450's

Daniel: just a note to follow up for you guys. i managed to flash the bios on my tyan S5393G2NR to v1.06 and now the vmx flag shows up in /proc/cpuinfo along with about a half a dozen others. so now the kvm device is created at boot and kvm works like a charm with no modules whatsoever. so now

[gentoo-user] Re: Am I wrong?..

On 2009-10-02, Harry Putnam wrote: > Dale writes: > >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> >>> and my brain just doesn't work the way vi does. >> >> I'm with you Grant. Mine doesn't work that way either. > > You guys do know that Bill Joy was lopsided drunk when he > wrote the bulk of vi ... right? (or so

[gentoo-user] Re: Am I wrong?..

Dale writes: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> and my brain just doesn't >> work the way vi does. >> >> > > I'm with you Grant. Mine doesn't work that way either. You guys do know that Bill Joy was lopsided drunk when he wrote the bulk of vi ... right? (or so it is said by oldtimers) Nobodys' b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Double nautilus windows for each USB flash drive plugged in

Hello, Walt: I had "Browse removable media when inserted" checked. Sure enough, when unchecked, a nautilus window opens. I also notice that two options are checked. I don't understand what the difference between them would be: Mount removeable drives when hot-plugged and Mount removable

[gentoo-user] Abut smb:// aware tools

Do we have tools other than Konqueror that are aware of smb/UNK addressing? Before you answer please note that: I know about ssh I know about fuse I know about mount -tcifs I'd really like to be able to use UNK addressing from the cmd line. cd //host/share I don't now how many of you have not

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009/10/2 Arthur D. : > Joshua Murphy писал(а) в своём письме Fri, 02 Oct 2009 > 09:58:33 +0300: > >> every Gentoo system has vi, there just isn't a direct >> symlink with that name to busybox. > > Wow, that's a really great problem. > $ ln `which busybox` vi > $ ./vi > > -- > Best regards, Spinal

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Am I wrong?..

Grant Edwards wrote: > > and my brain just doesn't > work the way vi does. > > I'm with you Grant. Mine doesn't work that way either. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Different desktop wallpapers in KDE4?

> > Seems like an awful lot of hoops to jump through just to get a facility > that > comes out of the box in 3.5. Maybe I'll give it a try anyway, so thanks. > > Yeah, right? I was thinking of making the switch, but I was convinced there must be infinite tricks hidden. ~daid

Re: [gentoo-user] And I thought I understood blocks...

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Er, what the heck is this one: > > emerge -av1 x11-libs/libXScrnSaver > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild N] x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0 49 kB > [ebuild N

[gentoo-user] Re: And I thought I understood blocks...

On 10/02/2009 07:17 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Er, what the heck is this one: emerge -av1 x11-libs/libXScrnSaver These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0 49 kB [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXScrnSaver-1.1.3

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: device eth0 does not exist

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Cinder wrote: > Thanks. Depmod yielded no results. At least as far as I can tell. I tried > with ... > > Code: > # depmod -a ; depmod -e -F > > As I recall "Note: the kernel developers warn that you should not > configure or compile your kernel as root." >-> > ht

Re: [gentoo-user] *WARNING* updating Xorg

> 2. The second guide uses a lot of "one-shot" emerges; could anyone > please explain why I'd use a one-shot? > > ISTM that if a package is on my system, I'd want it routinely updated. > If I need it only once, then instruct me to unmerge it after it's done!? > > The basic idea of --oneshot is to a

[gentoo-user] *WARNING* updating Xorg

1. FYI, There is a short, direct upgrade guide that should be referenced before upgrading to 1.6: It refers to another, short upgrade guide that should definitely be reviewed before proceeding:

Re: [gentoo-user] And I thought I understood blocks...

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 19:17 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Er, what the heck is this one: > > emerge -av1 x11-libs/libXScrnSaver > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild N] x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0 49 kB > [ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] And I thought I understood blocks...

091002 Philip Webb wrote in too much haste: > Faced with that, I would do > emerge -Cp libXScrnSaver > emerge -C libXScrnSaver > emerge -pv libXScrnSaver > emerge -1 libXScrnSaver Sorry, I thought the new version was 1.3 , but of course it's 1.1.3 , so the block is a bit bizarre. Someone

Re: [gentoo-user] And I thought I understood blocks...

Am Freitag, 2. Oktober 2009 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > Er, what the heck is this one: > > emerge -av1 x11-libs/libXScrnSaver > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild N] x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0 49 kB > [ebuild N] x

Re: [gentoo-user] And I thought I understood blocks...

091002 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Er, what the heck is this one: > emerge -av1 x11-libs/libXScrnSaver > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild N] x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0 49 kB > [ebuild N] x11-libs/libXScrnSav

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} External video card with RCA output?

>>> Does anyone know of a self-powered external video card (USB, Firewire, >>> ExpressCard) that has composite/RCA output and works in Gentoo?  I'd >>> like to use it to connect my laptop (VGA output only) to TVs while I'm >>> travelling. >> >> Something like this? >> >> http://www.maplin.co.uk/Mod

[gentoo-user] And I thought I understood blocks...

Er, what the heck is this one: emerge -av1 x11-libs/libXScrnSaver These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0 49 kB [ebuild N] x11-libs/libXScrnSaver-1.1.3 USE="-debug" 0 kB [blocks B ] (" To

[gentoo-user] Re: Am I wrong?..

On 2009-10-02, Albert Hopkins wrote: > It's a distribution where you have to choose your own system > logger and compile your own kernel, but when it comes to the > text editor they decide to "hold your hand" with nano? Some of us who are vimpaired think of it more as they decided not to "whac

[gentoo-user] Kworldclock & KDE 4.3.1

I asked this before without any response (smile). Kworldclock 3.5.10 is a useful little app, but is absent from 4.3.1 . I've found 2 versions of the problem : KDE bug 184088 , which suggests the problem is Gentoo packaging ; Gentoo forum http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-787140-hig

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

This is an interesting thread to analyze, even though 90.9% of it is basically BS and flaming. I actually can side a little bit with the OP. But as a user of Gentoo, vi and sudo. If it were all up to me, I'd have visudo look at EDITOR and fail if it doesn't exist. But this is likely not the aim

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009/10/2 Mike Edenfield : > On 10/2/2009 1:29 AM, Arthur D. wrote: > >> Agree. There's no need in making vim as depends. But in other hand in >> vanilla sudo >> package there's VI hardcoded by default. And MOST if not ALL users who >> have VIM > > So basically, you're entire silly argument boils d

[gentoo-user] Re: device eth0 does not exist-

On 10/02/2009 04:20 AM, Cinder wrote: I recompiled my kernel again with built-in e1000e support. No good. Maybe it's udev? Oops, by grepping through the kernel sources I see that you need the e1000 driver, not e1000e. From your pastebin lspci: Intel Corporation 82547EI Gigabit Ethernet Con

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?.. UPDATE

On Friday 02 October 2009 10:53:37 Arthur D. wrote: >=+ 3) And now the most interesting. I was banned by maintainer. Now I cannot > access the ticket too. Strange, uh?

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On 10/2/2009 1:29 AM, Arthur D. wrote: Agree. There's no need in making vim as depends. But in other hand in vanilla sudo package there's VI hardcoded by default. And MOST if not ALL users who have VIM So basically, you're entire silly argument boils down to "I don't like nano, make it go awa

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 12:09:23PM +0200, Jes??s Guerrero wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:54:42 -0500, forgottenwizard > wrote: > > How about a custom_editor flag, as you suggested, then an EDITOR > > variable in make.conf? Thats the only way I could see being able to > > solve this problem without

[gentoo-user] Re: device eth0 does not exist-

I recompiled my kernel again with built-in e1000e support. No good. Maybe it's udev? _ Get your FREE, LinuxWaves.com Email Now! --> http://www.LinuxWaves.com Join Linux Discussions! --> http://Community.LinuxWaves.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:57:44 +0300, "Arthur D." wrote: >> So, if it can't find vim, we should go >> fix that ourselves and that is acceptable, but if it can't find nano then >> that's unacceptable for you, did I get it right? > Did you visit > http://www.rootshell.be/~spinal/gentoo_bug_report/28

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

So, if it can't find vim, we should go fix that ourselves and that is acceptable, but if it can't find nano then that's unacceptable for you, did I get it right? Did you visit http://www.rootshell.be/~spinal/gentoo_bug_report/286017.html ? I was forced to offer the maintainer to respect at least

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:35:47 +0300, "Arthur D." wrote: >> Oh, and your ebuild patch doesn't even bother to check the vim >> dependency. > > The "vanilla" USE flag is not global, it's local, man. That's irrelevant. Each ebuild should sort its dependencies. The scope of the use flags is irrelevant

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:21:53 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:09:23 +0200, Jesús Guerrero wrote: > >> The USE flag idea is non-viable and doesn't make sense. > > Why not? The flag already exists for the very purpose the OP raised. Oh, you meant "vanilla", sorry, I was talking

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

Oh, and your ebuild patch doesn't even bother to check the vim dependency. The "vanilla" USE flag is not global, it's local, man. And it doesn't force user to install vim. You may want to make symlink /usr/bin/vi -> /bin/busybox instead. -- Best regards, Spinal

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > then the more sensible one should be used by default. > > Lets see: > nano, built in help, easy to use, small, good enough for most edits. > > vim, whatthefuckisthatcrap? how do I quit this monstrum? what happened now? > MODES? > > nano wins, hands down. Because eve

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:12:36 +0300, "Arthur D." wrote: > James Ausmus писал(а) в своём письме Thu, 01 Oct > > 2009 22:04:38 +0300: > > VI. > Maybe it's called VIsudo because VIM is better alternative for VANILLA, > hah? Maybe we should stick to the old devfs stuff instead of udev, because t

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:09:23 +0200, Jesús Guerrero wrote: > The USE flag idea is non-viable and doesn't make sense. Why not? The flag already exists for the very purpose the OP raised. -- Neil Bothwick PC DOS Error #01: Windows loading, come back tomorrow signature.asc Description: PGP sign

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

This thread is really out of control, I doubt anything useful can be born here, we are just running circles around a chair. On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:54:42 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: > On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 11:40:33AM +0200, Sebastian Be?ler wrote: >> Am 02.10.2009 11:29, schrieb forgottenwizard

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:36:47 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: > > > It isn't always on the users sytem. Providing a non-existent default > > > seems quite broken to me. > > > > That's true of every editor, so you have to choose the one that is > > most likely to be there, the one that is installed fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 11:40:33AM +0200, Sebastian Be?ler wrote: > Am 02.10.2009 11:29, schrieb forgottenwizard: > > > > > > > Thats an option, but seems to be a poor one. All that will do is let you > > use either vi(m) or nano for the default, which for emacs users will be > > no diffrent tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?.. UPDATE

OK. Now the latest update. 1) Here's a copy (just a copy, all links are useless) of bug report done by me. I was forced to copy that page to hosting because package maintainer restricted access to users who began to vote for this bug. +-===

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Freitag 02 Oktober 2009, forgottenwizard wrote: > On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 10:29:08AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:52:24 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: > > > > Nano is not non-existent by default. > > > > > > It isn't always on the users sytem. Providing a non-existent def

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

Am 02.10.2009 11:40, schrieb Sebastian Beßler: > Am 02.10.2009 11:29, schrieb forgottenwizard: > >> >> >> Thats an option, but seems to be a poor one. All that will do is let you >> use either vi(m) or nano for the default, which for emacs users will be >> no diffrent than the current problem. >

[gentoo-user] Re: device eth0 does not exist

Thanks. Depmod yielded no results. At least as far as I can tell. I tried with ... Code: # depmod -a ; depmod -e -F As I recall "Note: the kernel developers warn that you should not configure or compile your kernel as root." >->http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-539024.html And that "that

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

Am 02.10.2009 11:29, schrieb forgottenwizard: > > > Thats an option, but seems to be a poor one. All that will do is let you > use either vi(m) or nano for the default, which for emacs users will be > no diffrent than the current problem. If you use emacs then you are to far away to be helped

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 10:29:08AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:52:24 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: > > > > Nano is not non-existent by default. > > > It isn't always on the users sytem. Providing a non-existent default > > seems quite broken to me. > > That's true of ever

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 11:21:08AM +0200, Sebastian Be?ler wrote: > Am 02.10.2009 11:04, schrieb forgottenwizard: > > > The number of USE flags would be quite impressive for such a small > > package. > > a "vanilla"-flag could be possible that disables every changes to the > upstream-package. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:52:24 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: > > Nano is not non-existent by default. > It isn't always on the users sytem. Providing a non-existent default > seems quite broken to me. That's true of every editor, so you have to choose the one that is most likely to be there, the on

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:04:30 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: > > This "problem" could also be fixed by USE flags. Instead of whining > > why not submit a patch that has the ebuild respect the vanilla USE > > flag? > USE flags is nice, except ls /usr/portage/app-editors/ | wc -l returns > 76 package

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

Am 02.10.2009 11:04, schrieb forgottenwizard: > The number of USE flags would be quite impressive for such a small > package. a "vanilla"-flag could be possible that disables every changes to the upstream-package. It even exists atm for a number of packages metat...@darkstation ~ $ euse -i vani

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 11:08:08AM +0200, Sebastian Be?ler wrote: > Am 02.10.2009 10:52, schrieb forgottenwizard: > > It isn't always on the users sytem. Providing a non-existent default > > seems quite broken to me. > > By DEFAULT it is on EVERY Gentoo-system. > If you CHOOSE to remove the defaul

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

Arthur D. wrote: >>> Once again, try running "sudo visudo" as unprivileged user (that's >>> right, >>> sudo is used to make root stuff without logging with root ;-) ) >> >> Ok, I comment out >> %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL >> so that my user could use "sudo visudo". >> Hey.. Great.. It started visudo with

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

Am 02.10.2009 10:52, schrieb forgottenwizard: > On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 09:07:20AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:34:25 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: >> >>> So instead it should set a non-existant editor to the configured >>> default? >> >> Nano is not non-existent by default.

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 09:23:38AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:15:09 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: > > > And, yes, I prefer VIM. And I don't like when the package which > > vanilla defaults were always to be using vim as editor is overwritten > > without any notifications and ca

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

Once again, try running "sudo visudo" as unprivileged user (that's right, sudo is used to make root stuff without logging with root ;-) ) Ok, I comment out %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL so that my user could use "sudo visudo". Hey.. Great.. It started visudo with VIM. So again.. What are you complain

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

Am 02.10.2009 08:25, schrieb Arthur D.: >> I really don't see your problem. >> All that was needed here on my box was setting VIM as my editor of >> choice (I preferer to do that per-user so no setting of anything in rc >> or /etc/env.d) and VISUDO accepted it. No magic involved. > > Sebastian, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 09:07:20AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:34:25 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: > > > So instead it should set a non-existant editor to the configured > > default? > > Nano is not non-existent by default. > It isn't always on the users sytem. Providing

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

Neil Bothwick писал(а) в своём письме Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:23:38 +0300: This "problem" could also be fixed by USE flags. Instead of whining why not submit a patch that has the ebuild respect the vanilla USE flag? Thanks for the idea. I will try this. -- Best regards, Spinal

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:15:09 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: > > A more sensible approach would be for the ebuild to check which ebuild > > satisfies the virtual/editor dependency and set that. > > Not clever. What if there are several editors installed? Choose the most appropriate from a defined list.

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

A more sensible approach would be for the ebuild to check which ebuild satisfies the virtual/editor dependency and set that. Not clever. What if there are several editors installed? And, yes, I prefer VIM. And I don't like when the package which vanilla defaults were always to be using vim as e

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?.. UPDATE

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:17:26 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: > I remind you, that an admin restricted the access to that ticket after > users started to vote for it. Unless the reason for restriction was stated, your implication of causality is invalid. -- Neil Bothwick Plagarism prohibited. Derive

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:44:26 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: > That's right. But there are some reasons why visudo called so (do you > see that short VI?), What are those reasons? Do they apply to Gentoo? Is it possible that this is simply because the original coder used vi? Or perhaps to maintain the

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:34:25 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: > So instead it should set a non-existant editor to the configured > default? Nano is not non-existent by default. > Another variable in make.conf may be a reasonable fix for this though > I'm sure someone will bitch about having to set $

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:29:30 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: > I repeat once more. > Every user who has VIM installed on theirs systems is forced to do extra > configuration, to make sudo work as expected, just because someone > prefer other editor and thinks that vanilla choice is bad. Isn't that > just

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

Joshua Murphy писал(а) в своём письме Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:58:33 +0300: every Gentoo system has vi, there just isn't a direct symlink with that name to busybox. Wow, that's a really great problem. $ ln `which busybox` vi $ ./vi -- Best regards, Spinal

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?.. UPDATE

if I run a server with 50 users, 48 of which use emacs, one of which uses vim, and I choose to use pico, why should I be forced to use vi for it by default just because I have vim to satisfy someone else's desires? That's really funny, Joshua. Do you provide 50 users of your company with access