[gentoo-user] Re: How to fake USE flag change

2009-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Graham Murray wrote: Nikos Chantziaras writes: emerge -auDN world [ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-3.1.0 LINGUAS="-sv%" This is ridiculous. I'm in no mood emerging Open Office just because a LINGUAS changed which I don't even use. Something I can do about it other than waiting one and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Excessive digest failures in portage

2009-05-24 Thread Saphirus Sage
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Saphirus Sage wrote: >> This has been a consistent problem on one of my computers, to no avail >> thusfar, even after changing sync server settings or redigesting >> individual failed ebuilds. In running emerge -uavDN world, it will take >> at least an hour to generate a

Re: [gentoo-user] How to fake USE flag change

2009-05-24 Thread Graham Murray
Nikos Chantziaras writes: > emerge -auDN world > [ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-3.1.0 LINGUAS="-sv%" > > This is ridiculous. I'm in no mood emerging Open Office just because > a LINGUAS changed which I don't even use. Something I can do about it > other than waiting one and a half hours

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-24 Thread Adam Carter
> RESULTS: fglrx loads, but does not see the adapter. There's also a > problem with the mouse driver -- some undefined symbol. Have you rebuilt your kernel after emergeing xf86-input-mouse? If so you probably need to re-emerge xf86-input-mouse.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to fake USE flag change

2009-05-24 Thread Jacob Todd
You're right, it shouldn't. Things like that happen to me all the time, I'll already have a use flag disabled, and it will get turned off by default, and portage will want to rebuild it. You could make a local overlay with that LINGUAS flag not set, but it seems a bit much. I'd like to know a solu

[gentoo-user] Re: How to fake USE flag change

2009-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Well, OK, 2 days is a bit extreme (and I'm not even using some super-fast machine here; I have a - by now - old Core 2 Duo E6600 CPU), but regardless of how much time it needs, a change of a LINGUAS flag I don't even use should probably not trigger a rebuild anyway. So other than masking, ther

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to fake USE flag change

2009-05-24 Thread Jacob Todd
Wait a second, one and half hours?! Go get lunch with some friends, come back and it will be done. OO.o would take about 2+ days on my machine. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 08:08:38AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > I suppose there's no way to get rid of this when I mask it? > > !!! The following in

[gentoo-user] Re: Excessive digest failures in portage

2009-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Saphirus Sage wrote: This has been a consistent problem on one of my computers, to no avail thusfar, even after changing sync server settings or redigesting individual failed ebuilds. In running emerge -uavDN world, it will take at least an hour to generate a list of packages to be merged, but no

[gentoo-user] Excessive digest failures in portage

2009-05-24 Thread Saphirus Sage
This has been a consistent problem on one of my computers, to no avail thusfar, even after changing sync server settings or redigesting individual failed ebuilds. In running emerge -uavDN world, it will take at least an hour to generate a list of packages to be merged, but not before ouputting a TO

[gentoo-user] Re: How to fake USE flag change

2009-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
I suppose there's no way to get rid of this when I mask it? !!! The following installed packages are masked: - app-office/openoffice-3.1.0 (masked by: package.mask) For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. Jacob Todd wrote: Ma

[gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: VIDEO_CARDS="r128 fbdev vesa vmware" Er, ignore the "vmware" part; that's from my own system. Should just be "r128 fbdev vesa".

[gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: It tries to load "ati" on its own when I run "startx" with no xorg.conf. Not my idea. "ati" is a wrapper which tries to detect which driver to load. I'm not aware of having done anything to specify "ati", so I don't know how to stop it. My focus on ati-drivers came fro

Re: [gentoo-user] How to fake USE flag change

2009-05-24 Thread Jacob Todd
Mask it. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 07:36:48AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > emerge -auDN world > [ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-3.1.0 LINGUAS="-sv%" > > This is ridiculous. I'm in no mood emerging Open Office just because a > LINGUAS changed which I don't even use. Something I can do

[gentoo-user] How to fake USE flag change

2009-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
emerge -auDN world [ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-3.1.0 LINGUAS="-sv%" This is ridiculous. I'm in no mood emerging Open Office just because a LINGUAS changed which I don't even use. Something I can do about it other than waiting one and a half hours for a totally useless re-emerge?

[gentoo-user] gconf problems

2009-05-24 Thread W.Kenworthy
I started getting these errors recently from a number of systems, as well as failures in operation. The cause appears to be scripts/programs running as root trying to contact the user gconf daemon. This is "stupid" so how can I work around it. One case I am trying to fix is hibernate scripts res

Re: [gentoo-user] Escape a hung X session

2009-05-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 25 Mai 2009, sean wrote: > Does anyone know a way to kill an X session when it locks up? > > CTRL-ALT-Backspace and anything else that was tried does not kill the > session. > Sadly we have to pull the power to get back in. > There is not other system at the location to get in remotely. >

[gentoo-user] Escape a hung X session

2009-05-24 Thread sean
Does anyone know a way to kill an X session when it locks up? CTRL-ALT-Backspace and anything else that was tried does not kill the session. Sadly we have to pull the power to get back in. There is not other system at the location to get in remotely. Thanks Sean

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean question

2009-05-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 6:52 PM, james wrote: > > And why does depclean want to remove all of these kde 4 > packages?  Surely, I do not have to put them > all in the world file? Use something other than depclean > with sets? > > > confused, > James > emerge world and emerge --depclean make diffe

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean question

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
james wrote: > OK, > > So I just updated one of my system and all went fine. > > > I have not cleaned things up in a while, so I thought > I'd see what depclean says, know that I'm using kde4 > and sets. > > > So I get a huge list, including lots of kde-base 4.2.2 packages. > > > Hmmm, somethin

[gentoo-user] depclean question

2009-05-24 Thread james
OK, So I just updated one of my system and all went fine. I have not cleaned things up in a while, so I thought I'd see what depclean says, know that I'm using kde4 and sets. So I get a huge list, including lots of kde-base 4.2.2 packages. Hmmm, something is not right. 'emerge -uDNvp w

Re: [gentoo-user] MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting

2009-05-24 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sun, 24 May 2009 16:36:28 +0200 Jarry wrote: > Mike Kazantsev wrote: > > >>> Looks like there's a line in "stop" section that kills the script > >>> itself. Try looking for a lines like these: > >>> pkill MailScanner > >>> killall MailScanner > >>> start-stop-daemon --stop --name MailSc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: cannot install emacs/emacs-cvs with X use

2009-05-24 Thread Kevin
I've downgrade sandbox & it works, thanks both of you. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Zsitvai János wrote: > Kevin wrote: >> and here it is emerge --info: >> http://dpaste.com/hold/47084/ > > According to http://bugs.gentoo.org/267053, downgrading sandbox to version > 1.7 should work around the

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Stroller
On 24 May 2009, at 21:41, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2009 18:22:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Not exactly, buildsyspkg does the same as it always did, but @system has changed. This cold have happened at any time as there was never a need for python to be in @system,because it's a

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Arttu V.
On 5/24/09, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Dale asked *where* system is defined, not what it consists of. Well, he was asking many things. One can run into several directions with all the questions he asked, depending on the assumptions one makes. ;) > It appears you are completely missing the point. It

Re: [gentoo-user] MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting

2009-05-24 Thread Stroller
On 24 May 2009, at 14:37, Jarry wrote: ... The /etc/init.d/MailScanner script looks so: -- #!/sbin/runscript opts="${opts} reload" depend() { need net mta use logger dns } start() { ebegin "Starting MailScanner" /usr/sbin/check_MailSca

Re: [gentoo-user] How to manage package.keywords for greater system reliability?

2009-05-24 Thread Jorge Morais
On Fri, 22 May 2009 12:38:34 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 22 May 2009 07:40:28 -0300, Jorge Morais wrote: > > > > maybe you should just run a ~arch system. > > I want a reliable system. Isn't ~arch quite less reliable than arch ? > > Not in my experience. ~arch only means the builds are

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 24 May 2009 18:22:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > >>> Not exactly, buildsyspkg does the same as it always did, but @system >>> has changed. This cold have happened at any time as there was never a >>> need for python to be in @system,because it's a dependency of

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 24 May 2009 20:54:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Portage will not let you unmerge portage or gcc without a fight. It > offers a way to back up these critical packages. No rational person > will attempt to argue that python in a *portage* system is not subject > to the same constraints.

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 24 May 2009 18:22:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Not exactly, buildsyspkg does the same as it always did, but @system > > has changed. This cold have happened at any time as there was never a > > need for python to be in @system,because it's a dependency of > > portage. > > That may

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: paludis and make.conf

2009-05-24 Thread maxim wexler
--- On Sun, 5/24/09, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > That should be explained in the portage docs. > > Best possible answer :-) > > It's right there is man 5 make.conf: > > One enables protection for the given files/docs. > The other disables it. But I thought paludis had its own suite of pkg hand

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 24 Mai 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 24 May 2009 20:06:59 Arttu V. wrote: > > On 5/24/09, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > profiles are cascading and support multiple inheritance (parent files > > > can contain several entries). So, you have to run > > > > > > find /usr/portage/profi

[gentoo-user] acpid: cannot open input layer -- why is that [ok]?

2009-05-24 Thread maxim wexler
Hello group, If you google "acpid: cannot open input layer" with quotes, you'll get zero hits. "cannot open input layer" results in five hits all refering back to my own email. I started seeing this in the boot console followed by the green [ok] sign after following the gentoo Power-Managemen

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 24 May 2009 20:11:03 Dale wrote: > >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> On Sunday 24 May 2009 19:26:43 Dale wrote: >>> Also, is this the file that contains the system set? /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages If so, python is comment

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 24 May 2009 20:11:03 Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Sunday 24 May 2009 19:26:43 Dale wrote: > >> Also, is this the file that contains the system set? > >> > >> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages > >> > >> If so, python is commented out as is a few others. Is there a way to >

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 24 May 2009 20:06:59 Arttu V. wrote: > On 5/24/09, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > profiles are cascading and support multiple inheritance (parent files can > > contain several entries). So, you have to run > > > > find /usr/portage/profiles -name packages > > > > to find them all, and apply br

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 24 May 2009 19:26:43 Dale wrote: > >> Also, is this the file that contains the system set? >> >> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages >> >> If so, python is commented out as is a few others. Is there a way to >> add files to something in /etc that emerge would co

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Arttu V.
On 5/24/09, Alan McKinnon wrote: > profiles are cascading and support multiple inheritance (parent files can > contain several entries). So, you have to run > > find /usr/portage/profiles -name packages > > to find them all, and apply brain power to find the few that actually apply Cascading yes,

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 24 May 2009 19:26:43 Dale wrote: > Also, is this the file that contains the system set? > > /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages > > If so, python is commented out as is a few others. Is there a way to > add files to something in /etc that emerge would consider in addition to > this file?

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 24 May 2009 16:26:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: > >>> 2: Once #1 happens, your pretty much screwed because you don't even >>> have a binary backup even tho it is set in make.conf to have one. That >>> was the reason I put that setting in make.conf but someone chose t

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 24 May 2009 16:26:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > 2: Once #1 happens, your pretty much screwed because you don't even > > have a binary backup even tho it is set in make.conf to have one. That > > was the reason I put that setting in make.conf but someone chose to > > screw with my setting

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-24 Thread David Relson
Hi Kevin, This morning I'm experimenting with xorg.conf (with kernels 2.6.28-r5 and 2.6.29-r4 and with ati-drivers-8.552-r2) and have seen a variety of problems. One detail I've noted is that files in /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers matching "*.so" seem to be auto-loaded as X starts up. If you h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Summary: still hosed, and I'm still confused, and Xorg is having trouble seeing the video adapter and with loading the mouse driver. On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Kevin O'Gorman wrote: >> >> Getting desperate >> >> Anyway, with no xorg.conf, I see >> ===

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 24 May 2009 07:17:07 -0500, Dale wrote: > > >> 1: If I accidentally remove python, portage will not say a word as far >> as warning me this is bad. This is what got the OP into this. >> > > Yes, and that's a recent change, presumably as part of the move to m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: paludis and make.conf

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 24 May 2009 16:27:33 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > I'd like to understand these things before I get in too deep. What > > is the difference between CONFIG_PROTECT and CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK? > > One "protects" while the other "masks". Does the one that "masks" > > "protect" some files and not o

Re: [gentoo-user] MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting

2009-05-24 Thread Jarry
Mike Kazantsev wrote: Looks like there's a line in "stop" section that kills the script itself. Try looking for a lines like these: pkill MailScanner killall MailScanner start-stop-daemon --stop --name MailScanner ... depend() { need net mta use logger dns } That's wh

[gentoo-user] Re: paludis and make.conf

2009-05-24 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 24. Mai 2009 02:59:43 schrieb maxim.wex...@gmail.com: > I meant I did not want things to get too complicated by adding lots of > packages before I understood the system. > > In my grep of env.d their are only 5 lines _all_CONFIG_PROTECT_MASKs. > None of then lead to /etc/init.d. So why

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 24 May 2009 07:17:07 -0500, Dale wrote: > 1: If I accidentally remove python, portage will not say a word as far > as warning me this is bad. This is what got the OP into this. Yes, and that's a recent change, presumably as part of the move to make Gentoo and the portage tree work with

Re: [gentoo-user] MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting

2009-05-24 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sun, 24 May 2009 15:37:51 +0200 Jarry wrote: > Mike Kazantsev wrote: > > > Looks like there's a line in "stop" section that kills the script > > itself. Try looking for a lines like these: > > pkill MailScanner > > killall MailScanner > > start-stop-daemon --stop --name MailScanner >

Re: [gentoo-user] was paludis and make.conf - reply to DH

2009-05-24 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 24. Mai 2009 00:43:07 schrieb maxim wexler: > For instance, it appears CONFIG_PROTECT kept some important files in etc > after my trying to uninstall cpufreqd and cpufrequtils. Does this mean I > need to turn on and off CONFIG_PROCTECT on an adhoc basis? Or is there some > option to se

Re: [gentoo-user] MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting

2009-05-24 Thread Jarry
Mike Kazantsev wrote: # /etc/init.d/MailScanner stop * Stopping MailScanner... * MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting Looks like there's a line in "stop" section that kills the script itself. Try looking for a lines like these: pkill MailScanner killall MailScanner start-stop-daemon --s

Re: [gentoo-user] firefox 3.0.10 crashes

2009-05-24 Thread dhk
Robin Atwood wrote: On Saturday 23 May 2009, dhk wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, dhk wrote: Ever since I upgraded firefox to version 3 it crashes when certain pages are opened. Currently I have version 3.0.10 and amd64. I've been hoping the problem would get fixe

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Jorge Morais
On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:08:40 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 24 May 2009 00:08:50 Jorge Morais wrote: > > On Sat, 23 May 2009 03:51:40 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Now, I do have concerns about your system having remains of multiple > > python installations. > > > > Any person with python knowledge

[gentoo-user] Re: cannot install emacs/emacs-cvs with X use

2009-05-24 Thread Zsitvai János
Kevin wrote: > and here it is emerge --info: > http://dpaste.com/hold/47084/ According to http://bugs.gentoo.org/267053, downgrading sandbox to version 1.7 should work around the problem until it is fixed properly.

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Keith Dart
On Sun, 24 May 2009 07:09:37 -0300 Jorge Morais wrote: > You don't seem to have taken into account that he has installed > multiple vanilla python versions *manually* (with ./configure, make, > and make install as root), to /usr, and then installed Python with > Portage. Oh, didn't read the whol

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 24 May 2009 11:28:30 Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:07:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Portage is not in system, only the virtual. That can be satisfied by Paludis, which does not need Python. >>> Lucky for you, I

[gentoo-user] fontset

2009-05-24 Thread Gavin Seddon
Hi, When I try to run snns I get '>Warning: Cannot convert string "7x13bold" to type FontStruct Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset Can't find display font specified in command line [1]Exit 1snns' can an

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 24 May 2009 11:28:30 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:07:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Portage is not in system, only the virtual. That can be > > > satisfied by Paludis, which does not need Python. > > > > Lucky for you, I know your sense of humour by now :-) > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Jorge Morais
On Sun, 24 May 2009 01:52:45 -0700 Keith Dart wrote: > On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:08:50 -0300 > Jorge Morais wrote: > > > Now, I do have concerns about your system having remains of multiple > > python installations. > > > > Any person with python knowledge can give an opinion on whether this > >

Re: [gentoo-user] MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting

2009-05-24 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:10:04 +0200 Jarry wrote: > # /etc/init.d/MailScanner stop > * Stopping MailScanner... > * MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting Looks like there's a line in "stop" section that kills the script itself. Try looking for a lines like these: pkill MailScanner killall Mai

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot install emacs/emacs-cvs with X use

2009-05-24 Thread Jorge Morais
On Sun, 24 May 2009 08:44:32 +0800 Kevin wrote: > Hello, > after reinstall my system, I can emerge neither emacs nor emacs-cvs > successfully on my gentoo. when proceeded to the working fork check, > it stops and hangs over, never go ahead. > > build.log: > http://dpaste.com/hold/47083/ > > a

Re: [gentoo-user] Is paludis bad for SSDs?

2009-05-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 23 May 2009 14:59:09 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote: > Thanks for the tip. Is this the sort of thing that benefits from > turning off CONFIG_PROTECT in one or more dirs?. That would mean that every update would trash your existing configs. It would be safe if you set it only when uninsta

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:07:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Portage is not in system, only the virtual. That can be > > satisfied by Paludis, which does not need Python. > > Lucky for you, I know your sense of humour by now :-) > > Doesn't help portage users though, and portage is still the d

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 24 May 2009 00:08:50 Jorge Morais wrote: > On Sat, 23 May 2009 03:51:40 -0700 (PDT) > > Jon Hardcastle wrote: > > > And finally, couldn't he have gotten a binary package from > > > http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/x86/dev-lang/ > > > ? > > Have you not yet tried to get pytho

[gentoo-user] MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting

2009-05-24 Thread Jarry
Hi, For whatever reason I can not stop/start MailScanner cleanly: # /etc/init.d/MailScanner stop * Stopping MailScanner... * MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting # /etc/init.d/MailScanner start * WARNING: MailScanner has already been started Actually, MailScanner stops, but sendmail which has

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 23 May 2009 22:02:26 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 23 May 2009 06:59:10 -0500, Dale wrote: > > Hmmm, I think someone needs to rethink the system set then. After all, > > portage does not work well without python. It should keep a binary copy > > but it should also warn you if you are

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Keith Dart
On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:08:50 -0300 Jorge Morais wrote: > Now, I do have concerns about your system having remains of multiple > python installations. > > Any person with python knowledge can give an opinion on whether this > is dangerous? And what is the easiest way to clean the mess? Python is

Re: [gentoo-user] Sparse files and df

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 24 May 2009 08:42:07 Mike Kazantsev wrote: > Now I know that df can actually show weird results sometimes but I > wonder why (re)moving files from a file system doesn't affect it's > output at all. I had this on an Oracle machine a while ago - huge amounts of space being consumed by fil

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sparse files and df

2009-05-24 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sun, 24 May 2009 10:13:09 +0300 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > I might be wrong, but here's my take on it: > > The files you moved won't be deleted until they are closed. That means > quiting the torrent client. "du" shows space occupied by files that > actually have a filename. The files yo

[gentoo-user] Re: Sparse files and df

2009-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Mike Kazantsev wrote: Hi, Here's a bit of a puzzle for me... I've got an 40G LVM partition with empty reiserfs on it. Then I've started rtorrent using this fs as a storage and added two 50G torrents to it. Rtorrent had no problems with the fact that partition is smaller than either of them and

Re: [gentoo-user] Sparse files and df

2009-05-24 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sun, 24 May 2009 12:42:07 +0600 Mike Kazantsev wrote: > Now I know that df can actually show weird results sometimes but I > wonder why (re)moving files from a file system doesn't affect it's > output at all. > Do I really have 5G there which will be depleted soon and there's > nothing I can d